XXXIV wrote:McCain now has a lock the Eskimo vote.
Seriously the guy is 72...How is she qualified to be president? Whats her foreign policy experience?
She has to contend with us pesky Canadians who still think Alaska belongs to Canada )
Seriously, it'll be interesting to see how the GOP packages her. I hope the question of succession is brought up in the VP debate because no matter how unsavory it may be there's a good chance that with McCain's age the VP would have to take over at some point.
Vice Presidents like it or not, are no longer just figureheads. They actually have a great deal of say in how an administration shapes its policies.
TheHiddenTrack wrote:I can't wait until next week. I'd bet that Dick Cheney accuses Obama of being Osama's half brother, or at least that he will allow the next major terrorist attack. I really can't wait.
I'm going to take a drink every time I hear 9-11 and P.O.W. I may not wake up.
You should've tried it during the DNC and drank every time they tried to link Bush to McCain. You'd still be comatose.
It works both ways. I don't think either party plays "fairer" than the other. Sad but true.
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SPTO wrote: She has to contend with us pesky Canadians who still think Alaska belongs to Canada )
You mean Alaska isn't Russia anymore?
I don't know anything about Pallin, but I don't think this choice is going to be well recieved. Especially, once the surprise factor dissipates. For all the great potential, I am sure she has, she brings nothing to the table. Conservatives will not be happy with a choice of a woman, moderate Republicans wouln't like that she doesn't come from a battleground state, independants will not like the fact that she is to the right of McCain, and Democrats will view her as poor man's version of Hillary. I just don't think there is enough time to introduce general public to someone who is been so unknown on the national stage.
I also don't like Obama picking Biden, so I accept, that I may be totally in the wrong, she may just be extraordinary...
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Brando70 wrote:I am a little nervous about watching the Republican National Convention next week. I'm afraid all that white might cause burn-in on my plasma.
Just stick to watching CNN or MSNBC and you'll be fine. I'll bet they don't give this convention anywhere near the coverage they gave to the DNC.
Wow I just saw some pics of Pallin....Well she'd get the MILF vote at least
She was 2nd place in the Miss Alaska contest of 1984. She's also a "hockey mom" Gotta love that! But...she would be extremely unqualified to step in as President if McCain were to kick. McCain will be near 80 if he got a 2nd term. That's something to consider.
Teal wrote:That's just bullshit cutesy crap. It aired on the major cable networks, the ones that weren't afraid of an olive branch.
You honestly believe that was an olive branch from McCain? Come on. It was part of a elaborate PR strategy by the GOP, which is taking on an adversary that has an equally coy PR strategy.
It was a different twist, and a decent twist, but it was PR nonetheless.
Feanor wrote:Bush has been correctly criticized for being presumptuous ever since he used his mandate of getting less votes than Gore to take America down the hard right, neocon path of waging war on false pretenses while cutting taxes and letting the deficit and public debt balloon once again.
Edit: In the interest of keeping this thread from being locked, I'll just let this go.
JackB1 wrote: McCain will be near 80 if he got a 2nd term. That's something to consider.
If he makes it anywhere near 80... or gets a 2nd term (let him get one first ) by then she will be qualified...Im thinking more about the next 2-3 years.
Feanor wrote:Bush has been correctly criticized for being presumptuous ever since he used his mandate of getting less votes than Gore to take America down the hard right, neocon path of waging war on false pretenses while cutting taxes and letting the deficit and public debt balloon once again.
Edit: In the interest of keeping this thread from being locked, I'll just let this go.
You find obviously facts very upsetting.
What part of your statement was fact other than cuting taxes and letting the deficit rise? Other than that, the rest is just opinionated ranting. Bush WON by the rules we have in place. Deal with it already.
XXXIV wrote:McCain now has a lock the Eskimo vote.
Seriously the guy is 72...How is she qualified to be president? Whats her foreign policy experience?
Umm, there have been 16 governors who went on to become President. Almost all had little if any foreign policy experience. And she has more executive branch experience than Obama, McCain and Biden...combined.
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Brando70 wrote:I am a little nervous about watching the Republican National Convention next week. I'm afraid all that white might cause burn-in on my plasma.
Just stick to watching CNN or MSNBC and you'll be fine. I'll bet they don't give this convention anywhere near the coverage they gave to the DNC.
The same can be said about Fox News this week. Last night after Obama's speech, I did a quick scan of the three networks just before midnight.
MSNBC: Matthews and Olbermann were all but masturbating to the speech, calling it one of the great American convention speeches of all time. Leftist drivel.
CNN: A panel was talking about its memories of the convention, with Wolf Blitzer concluding how CNN has the best political coverage team and that more people watched CNN for convention coverage this week than any cable or network outlet. Self-congratulatory, self-important pap.
Fox News: Greta Van Susteren on the streets of Denver with her BlackBerry, breathlessly reporting "breaking news" about McCain's possible VP pick. Laser-like right-wing focus within minutes of the end of the top lefty's speech.
matthewk wrote:
I'm going to take a drink every time I hear 9-11 and P.O.W. I may not wake up.
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You should've tried it during the DNC and drank every time they tried to link Bush to McCain. You'd still be comatose.
Or every time Gulianni says "9/11". You'll be sloshed in no time. McCain has voted the same as Bush 95% of the time. That's a pretty strong link. As far as McCain's military history, I can't pretend to understand the hell that he endured, but does all that make him a better choice for President? Many of our greatest President's (Lincoln, FDR, Clinton) had zero military background. There has never been any evidence that military experience will have anything to do with what kind of a President you will be. Is McCain a war hero? Absolutely. Will that make him a better President? I have no idea.
XXXIV wrote:
Seriously the guy is 72...How is she qualified to be president? Whats her foreign policy experience?
I though that was the question about Obama...
And Bush Jr. ... And Clinton ... And Reagan ... And Carter. The only American president who has entered the Oval Office with any foreign policy experience since 1976 was George Bush the elder.
Yet Americans on both sides of the political spectrum still have elected these "inexperienced" people. George Bush had a ton of foreign policy experience in 1992 and still lost to Clinton. Al Gore at least sat in on foreign policy meetings and was privy to national security matters for eight years as Clinton's No. 2 and still lost to Bush.
Recent history seems to show that foreign policy experience is vastly overrated to the American electorate.
matthewk wrote:
Edit: In the interest of keeping this thread from being locked, I'll just let this go.
You find obviously facts very upsetting.
What part of your statement was fact other than cuting taxes and letting the deficit rise? Other than that, the rest is just opinionated ranting. Bush WON by the rules we have in place. Deal with it already.
What I find very upsetting is your grammar.
To be fair, Bush did receive fewer popular votes in 2000 than Gore, so Feanor's original fact was accurate. Yes, I know about the Electoral College ...
TheHiddenTrack wrote:I can't wait until next week. I'd bet that Dick Cheney accuses Obama of being Osama's half brother, or at least that he will allow the next major terrorist attack. I really can't wait.
I'm going to take a drink every time I hear 9-11 and P.O.W. I may not wake up.
You should've tried it during the DNC and drank every time they tried to link Bush to McCain. You'd still be comatose.
It works both ways. I don't think either party plays "fairer" than the other. Sad but true.
Drink every time you hear McCain use the words: you, kids, get, off, or my lawn... ho ho.
Seriously, though McCain's age is an issue to me. I remember both sets of my Grandparents took some serious health/mental swings from early 70's to mid-70's. It was scary to see.
pk500 wrote:
None of the above should be surprising to anyone.
Take care,
PK
Since 2000 MSNBC, CNN and Fox have essentially abandoned anything but the thinnest pretense of objectivity. It's a return to the 19th c. newspaper model, with the networks all but house organs for the parties.
What pisses me off most is not their biases, but the fact that they have used editorial content to draw an audience at the expense of the product itself. Fox is a wastleand when it comes to production and talent and employs Bill O'Reilly. CNN is basically People magazine for politics at this point, and anyone who can sit through more than 30 seconds of Keith Olberman should get a ticker tape parade down Broadway. That guy makes Rush Limbaugh look like Dorothy Parker.
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CNN can be quite self congratulatory at times but I find more often then not they'll stick with the actual news MOST of the time. They slant a bit to the left but it's not as politically driven as MSNBC or FNC. Maybe that's why the network's been in a rut lately.
MSNBC should be renamed DNBC but you know what? The personalities they have on are actually telegenic and fun the listen to. I take a lot of what they say with a heaping grain of salt but they bring an energy and spunk to political news that's endearing if you can get past the bias. The only thing is, Olbermann is slowly killing the network what with his recent pulling of strings to get Rachel Maddow the timeslot that Dan Abrams' occupied.
BTW is is just me or does Maddow look and sound like Olbermann in drag?
FNC is way too far to the right and it doesn't help that they have mean spirited ugly bastards polluting the airwaves. I was watching a bit of Fox News Sunday and MY GOD! I looked at Juan Williams and the guy looked like the face of death. Oh and don't get me started on Hang Dog Hume!
Feanor wrote:
You find obviously facts very upsetting.
What part of your statement was fact other than cuting taxes and letting the deficit rise? Other than that, the rest is just opinionated ranting. Bush WON by the rules we have in place. Deal with it already.
What I find very upsetting is your grammar.
To be fair, Bush did receive fewer popular votes in 2000 than Gore, so Feanor's original fact was accurate. Yes, I know about the Electoral College ...
Take care,
PK
If that was the entirety of his statement, then yes it would be true. But he buried that inside "Bush has been correctly criticized for being presumptuous ever since he used his mandate ..." and "...to take America down the hard right, neocon path of waging war on false pretenses"
SPTO wrote:
FNC is way too far to the right and it doesn't help that they have mean spirited ugly bastards polluting the airwaves. I was watching a bit of Fox News Sunday and MY GOD! I looked at Juan Williams and the guy looked like the face of death. Oh and don't get me started on Hang Dog Hume!
If that's your criteria then you should just stick to the Playboy channel for your news
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