OT: 2008 Elections

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Tue May 20, 2008 12:52 am

So why do US ships regularly patrol the Persian Gulf then?

Why were the RDF and CENTCOM formed?

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Tue May 20, 2008 8:24 am

wco81 wrote:So why do US ships regularly patrol the Persian Gulf then?

Why were the RDF and CENTCOM formed?

Well, we're kind of...in a war...over there, or so I thought. Maybe it's just a ruse...

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Tue May 20, 2008 8:29 am

JRod wrote:So is this the scale...

72 --- Republicans
68 --- Democrats
62 --- Libertarians

Haha...

Take care,
PK

Macca00 · Post by **Macca00** » Tue May 20, 2008 8:33 am

JRod wrote:
So is this the scale...

72 --- Republicans
68 --- Democrats
62 --- Libertarians

Haha...

Been lurking from the beginning but had to give this one a

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Tue May 20, 2008 8:45 am

tealboy03 wrote:
No, it's not opacity that's the problem-it's that I don't pretend to 'know' things that some of you claim to have an inside track on. You don't 'know' what you're purporting to know here, wco. ...

Teal dont you know that he is the all knowing all seeing Oz.

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Tue May 20, 2008 9:26 am

JRod wrote:
pk500 wrote: 72 --- Republicans
68 --- Democrats
62 --- Libertarians

Haha...

Wait. That would make me a Democrat. Looks like I'll be turning my 'stat down to 62

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Tue May 20, 2008 11:58 am

Some of you guys have been saying that Obama is the media darling and can do no wrong, but I think the media has given McCain a free pass while this fight between Obama and Hillary has been going on. McCain has been going back and forth on so many issues lately and the press is ignoring it. This guys IS the Rep. nominee and he needs to be scrutinized like everyone else. I can't wait until Obama becomes the nominee so he can stomp McCain in head to head debates.

Check this out:

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wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Tue May 20, 2008 12:17 pm

tealboy03 wrote:
wco81 wrote:So why do US ships regularly patrol the Persian Gulf then?

Why were the RDF and CENTCOM formed?

Well, we're kind of...in a war...over there, or so I thought. Maybe it's just a ruse...

These were formed in the '70s and early '80s.

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Tue May 20, 2008 12:26 pm

JackB1 wrote:Some of you guys have been saying that Obama is the media darling and can do no wrong, but I think the media has given McCain a free pass...

Just so I'm clear on this:

You're supporting your contention that the media doesn't go after McCain enough with a video consisting of clips of the media (CNN, NBC and MSNBC) going after McCain?

Jack, should you ever actually run into the phenomenon of logic please don't be scared. It won't bite.

Sudz · Post by **Sudz** » Tue May 20, 2008 12:34 pm

http://adwordseditor.blogspot.com/2008/ ... rches.html

some internet info i threw together on the election.

F308GTB · Post by **F308GTB** » Tue May 20, 2008 12:40 pm

XXXIV wrote:Why is gas so much more expensive in europe?

http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2008/04/eu ... t-350.html

Personally I hope that if gas prices ever do drop that the federal government does the wise thing and hold the prices level, taking in the excess as taxes. Europe pays higher taxes on fuel, and frankly I would rather impose such a use tax than general taxes going towards transportation funding. Keeping higher gas prices would also encourage more fuel efficient car purchases in the US.

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Tue May 20, 2008 3:59 pm

wco81 wrote:
tealboy03 wrote:
wco81 wrote:So why do US ships regularly patrol the Persian Gulf then?

Why were the RDF and CENTCOM formed?

Well, we're kind of...in a war...over there, or so I thought. Maybe it's just a ruse...
These were formed in the '70s and early '80s.

We've had trouble out of those assholes for at least that long, and if we didn't have a presence in the Gulf, Iran would've already attempted to destroy Israel.

As to the RDF and CENTCOM...maybe you can explain why they were formed, since I don't know, and apparently you do?

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Tue May 20, 2008 4:09 pm

RobVarak wrote:Jack, should you ever actually run into the phenomenon of logic please don't be scared. It won't bite.

Thanks, Rob. I've noticed an increase in the use of sigs here at DSP and I've been looking for one. This one is perfect!

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Tue May 20, 2008 4:34 pm

RobVarak wrote:
You're supporting your contention that the media doesn't go after McCain enough with a video consisting of clips of the media (CNN, NBC and MSNBC) going after McCain?

Jack, should you ever actually run into the phenomenon of logic please don't be scared. It won't bite.

There is some logic here.....although I admit it may appear a little cloudy at first

Let me try and explain better....
Most of these clips are several months old. Since Obama and Hillary have been going at it, McCain has been sliding along without much to answer to from the media. My point was that there is plenty of material out there to question him on, but they have stopped recently, for some reason. These clips point out how McCain has said conflicting and opposite comments and has changed his stance several times. Why isn't he held more accountable for that? I guess the Hillary/Obama conflict has given them "juicier material"? I hope that once the Dem. candidate is declared, we will see McCain have to readdress these issues.

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Tue May 20, 2008 4:40 pm

JackB1 wrote:
RobVarak wrote:
You're supporting your contention that the media doesn't go after McCain enough with a video consisting of clips of the media (CNN, NBC and MSNBC) going after McCain?

Jack, should you ever actually run into the phenomenon of logic please don't be scared. It won't bite.
There is some logic here.....although I admit it may appear a little cloudy at first

Let me try and explain better....
Most of these clips are more than 6 months old. Since Obama and Hillary have been going at it, McCain has been sliding along without much to answer to from the media. My point was that there is plenty of material out there to question him on, but they have stopped recently, for some reason. These clips point out how McCain has said conflicting and opposite comments and has changed his stance several times. Why isn't he held more accountable for that? I guess the Hillary/Obama conflict has given them "juicier material"? I hope that once the Dem. candidate is declared, we will see McCain have to readdress these issues.

It's simple-the media are not interested in McCain...yet. They're too busy fawning over Obama and/or Billary to care about McCain. He's not getting a pass...he's getting a momentary reprieve.

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Tue May 20, 2008 4:42 pm

Leebo33 wrote:
RobVarak wrote:Jack, should you ever actually run into the phenomenon of logic please don't be scared. It won't bite.
Thanks, Rob. I've noticed an increase in the use of sigs here at DSP and I've been looking for one. This one is perfect!

Be Original! Come up with one yourself!!!

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Wed May 21, 2008 10:04 pm

Looks like Hillary is making a last ditch effort to appeal for the FL votes.
She is saying she is winning the popular vote??? Even if they count FL, she is NOT winning the popular vote
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... count.html
so what's the point? She cant count Michigan in her argument because Obama wasn't on the ballet. This display really shows how she is all about her own ambition and could care less about the party.

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm

JackB1 wrote:Looks like Hillary is making a last ditch effort to appeal for the FL votes.
She is saying she is winning the popular vote??? Even if they count FL, she is NOT winning the popular vote
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... count.html
so what's the point? She cant count Michigan in her argument because Obama wasn't on the ballet. This display really shows how she is all about her own ambition and could care less about the party.

Clintons are scumbags.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Wed May 21, 2008 11:45 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
JackB1 wrote:Looks like Hillary is making a last ditch effort to appeal for the FL votes.
She is saying she is winning the popular vote??? Even if they count FL, she is NOT winning the popular vote
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... count.html
so what's the point? She cant count Michigan in her argument because Obama wasn't on the ballet. This display really shows how she is all about her own ambition and could care less about the party.
Clintons are scumbags.

Careful...

Hell yeah they are....she is a total f***in c***

Edit: Sorry Bill...I kinda like you...and I do understand your need to f*** an actual woman.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu May 22, 2008 9:10 am

She's a Clinton. Their desire for power and media attention is all-consuming.

Any questions?

Take care,
PK

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Thu May 22, 2008 10:38 am

I really hope she gets her @ss trounced by Obama. That way we won't have to deal with her ever again.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu May 22, 2008 10:47 am

Rodster wrote:I really hope she gets her @ss trounced by Obama. That way we won't have to deal with her ever again.

I live in New York state. Unfortunately, she'll return to her "adopted home" -- carpet-bagging biatch -- and do absolutely nothing for the Empire State as U.S. Senator while continuing to use it as a platform for her national aspirations.

Take care,
PK

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Thu May 22, 2008 10:55 am

My sympathy PK as i'm a former NY'er myself. At least she's 2,500 miles the hell away from Florida.

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Thu May 22, 2008 11:22 am

Well, her home state of Illinois looks like it's going to have a vacancy at Senator. That would be funny as s***. Of course being a citizen of Illinois I would never want to see that happen.

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Thu May 22, 2008 12:47 pm

pk500 wrote:She's a Clinton. Their desire for power and media attention is all-consuming.

Any questions?

Take care,
PK

I'm no fan of the Clintons, but that description pretty much fits all of America