The Mitchell Report

webdanzer · Post by **webdanzer** » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:21 pm

matthewk wrote:
kevinpars wrote:Between this and Spygate, it makes me glad it is now time for hockey and basketball seasons to take over for a few months.
Because now we can concentrate on figuring out which NBA games are being fixed by the refs.

And wondering which NHL owners, coaches and staff are involved in illegal gambling rings...

webdanzer · Post by **webdanzer** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 11:30 am

Listening to the hearings now, and it sure looks like Clemens is in trouble, caught up in a lot of inconsistancies. Pettitte testified that Clemens flat-out told him that he was using HGH.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:01 pm

Clemens looks bad here, constantly repeating, "I think Andy is misremembering."

But this question must be asked: Why is the U.S. Congress wasting time on testimony about baseball -- or any sport, for that matter -- when we have a war on two fronts and a sputtering economy?

That's show business, I guess. It is an entertaining reality show, live from the halls of Congress.

Take care,
PK

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:10 pm

McNamee is tripping over his tongue, too. Man, both he and Clemens appear to be unsavory characters. No wonder they were pals.

Take care,
PK

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:13 pm

I love it when a guy like Clemens, who clearly thinks he's untouchable, shouts from the rooftops in front of the camera that he's innocent with such confidence but as soon as he's put in front of Congress and reality sets in he looks guilty as sin. They are tearing his testimony to shreds.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:21 pm

No doubt, Scoop. It's never nice seeing a guy get grilled, but Clemens is such an arrogant dick that it's somewhat comforting to see him squirm.

Take care,
PK

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:42 pm

I think this blond-haired Congressman testifying now, the dude with the raspy voice, is on Clemens' PR payroll. I understand skepticism of McNamee and his claims, but this dude's pro-Clemens agenda is unreal.

Then again, Rep. Cummings was an attack dog taking chunks out of Clemens.

The agendas of each of these Congressmen are a joke. This isn't a search for truth; it's a televised sideshow.

Take care,
PK

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:02 pm

The deeper this thing gets, the more obvious that Clemens just got his hand caught in the cookie jar. But after spending millions, are these Senators actually going to do anything about it? Or, is it just the flavour of the day?

Somewhere in the background J. Canseco is smiling, at least he coughed up the roids abuse pretty early on.

Diablo25 · Post by **Diablo25** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:30 pm

I must be nuts. I believe McNamee is the one getting discredited here. Clemens isn't going to come out smelling like a rose here but McNamee is the one looking bad.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:37 pm

Diablo25 wrote:I must be nuts. I believe McNamee is the one getting discredited here. Clemens isn't going to come out smelling like a rose here but McNamee is the one looking bad.

I think it's the difference between the smell of a burrito sh*t and a lasagna sh*t. Both smell bad.

Take care,
PK

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:39 pm

Diablo25 wrote:I must be nuts. I believe McNamee is the one getting discredited here. Clemens isn't going to come out smelling like a rose here but McNamee is the one looking bad.

You are nuts

! According to Roger: Pettitte is lying, MnNamee is lying, Roger's WIFE took HGH, and yet, Clemens is the ONLY one telling the truth?? LOL...

The best was when Clemens said he NEVER talked to Brian about HGH then was busted a few minutes later when he said he had 2 conversations with Brian about HGH & his wife.

Diablo25 · Post by **Diablo25** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:54 pm

pk500 wrote:
Diablo25 wrote:I must be nuts. I believe McNamee is the one getting discredited here. Clemens isn't going to come out smelling like a rose here but McNamee is the one looking bad.
I think it's the difference between the smell of a burrito sh*t and a lasagna sh*t. Both smell bad.

Take care,
PK

True.

I know one thing for sure - some of these congressmen/women would blow Clemens if given the opportunity.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:02 pm

Diablo25 wrote:I know one thing for sure - some of these congressmen/women would blow Clemens if given the opportunity.

Exactly. Which lends an even greater air of bias to the proceedings. Clemens is the legend; McNamee is the scum trainer. Supporting which guy is going to get more votes?

The final statement from the Congresswoman before the 15-minute break was sickening, and I'm slightly paraphrasing: "Mr. Clemens, I can assure you you will go to heaven."

Huh? The relevance of that?

Take care,
PK

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:02 pm

Diablo25 wrote:
pk500 wrote:
Diablo25 wrote:I must be nuts. I believe McNamee is the one getting discredited here. Clemens isn't going to come out smelling like a rose here but McNamee is the one looking bad.
I think it's the difference between the smell of a burrito sh*t and a lasagna sh*t. Both smell bad.

Take care,
PK
True.

I know one thing for sure - some of these congressmen/women would blow Clemens if given the opportunity.

LOL, so would most yankee fans...

webdanzer · Post by **webdanzer** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:08 pm

greggsand wrote:
LOL, so would most yankee fans...

Incorrect. He's actually not much of a NY fan favorite at all. He never has been. Now Yankee Broadcasters, on the other hand...

This whole Nanny thing was very embarassing for Clemens. His kid slept there??

Skerik · Post by **Skerik** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:11 pm

pk500 wrote:The final statement from the Congresswoman before the 15-minute break was sickening, and I'm slightly paraphrasing: "Mr. Clemens, I can assure you you will go to heaven."

Huh? The relevance of that?

Take care,
PK

The relevance of that was to point out that Clemens must be the most forgiving person on the face of the Earth if he kept McNamee in his employment after everything he did to him, only to terminate their relationship when the Mitchell Report went public.

It wasn't pandering to Clemens, it was making him look like an idiot and a liar.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:12 pm

webdanzer wrote:
greggsand wrote:
LOL, so would most yankee fans...
Incorrect. He's actually not much of a NY fan favorite at all. He never has been. Now Yankee Broadcasters, on the other hand...

This whole Nanny thing was very embarassing for Clemens. His kid slept there??

I happened to be in NY last year when Clemens announced he was coming back - you would have thought the yankees just won the world series.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:36 pm

Skerik wrote:It wasn't pandering to Clemens, it was making him look like an idiot and a liar.

Ah, thanks! I missed the context. That's what I get for trying to work and listen at the same time.

Take care,
PK

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 3:27 pm

This Rusty Hard-on guy should never find another client...ever. You can't let your client take something like this so far and then compound it by putting him out there for a dog and pony show like this.

If he has any sense whatsoever (which is obviously doubtful), he should be preparing the old fake heart attack on the floor of the hearing room gambit...or maybe have his secretary call in a bomb threat or something.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:14 pm

At least we all now know that Andy Pettitte is senile

"he injected my wife"...My favorite quote...Clemens is such a d*****...

F308GTB · Post by **F308GTB** » Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:03 pm

RobVarak wrote:This Rusty Hard-on guy should never find another client...ever. You can't let your client take something like this so far and then compound it by putting him out there for a dog and pony show like this.

Believe it or not, he's one of the top lawyers in Houston. Not the most talented (far from it actually), but certainly one of the highest profile. His reputation is much higher than his abilities.

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:59 am

F308GTB wrote: Believe it or not, he's one of the top lawyers in Houston. Not the most talented (far from it actually), but certainly one of the highest profile. His reputation is much higher than his abilities.

No surprise there. If there's one truism in the legal profession it's that the high-profile, big names are often products of networking and rainmaking more than legal skills. The best lawyers are the ones that those BSD's hire when the s*** hits the fan. It's usually some no-name that's toiled away in some big firm litigation dept., or on his own in a small firm for 20 years and can litigate the doors off of any case.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:30 am

Just saw some highlights on ESPN.

It seemed like the Republican congressmen went after McNamee and the Democrats pushed Clemens hard, although nobody called Clemens an outright liar like Dan Burton did McNamee.

What was that about?

Did Clemens only go around meeting certain members of congress before today or something?

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:35 am

wco81 wrote:Just saw some highlights on ESPN.

It seemed like the Republican congressmen went after McNamee and the Democrats pushed Clemens hard, although nobody called Clemens an outright liar like Dan Burton did McNamee.

What was that about?

Did Clemens only go around meeting certain members of congress before today or something?

I never saw a political thing....Do you see everything in terms of parties?

I did notice a regional thing though...

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:56 am

wco81 wrote:Just saw some highlights on ESPN.

It seemed like the Republican congressmen went after McNamee and the Democrats pushed Clemens hard, although nobody called Clemens an outright liar like Dan Burton did McNamee.

What was that about?

Did Clemens only go around meeting certain members of congress before today or something?

It's bec. those members of congress were probably awestruck by mr major league baseball pitcher. also, they wanted to be seen on the local nightly news shows making these big remarks. it's easier to put down and call a lair to the guy nobody knows.