Another Dead X360

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:09 pm

What does recovering your live account have to do with game saves? I'm not sure I understand the problem. Are they tied to a specific profile?

webdanzer · Post by **webdanzer** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:52 pm

Apparently quite a few people ran into this issue over the last few weeks when Live was flaking out. People who used account recovery saw some or even all of their game saves deleted!

I'm not exactly sure why this occurs, but I saw quite a few people on various forums stating that this happened to them, and I think one of the news-sites covered it as well.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:53 pm

Danimal wrote:What does recovering your live account have to do with game saves? I'm not sure I understand the problem. Are they tied to a specific profile?

Yeah Im confused too. Save games are on the hard drive only unless there is something I didnt know. That is why Im on the 3rd 360 sith the original hard drive.

webdanzer · Post by **webdanzer** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:00 pm

XXXIV wrote:
Danimal wrote:What does recovering your live account have to do with game saves? I'm not sure I understand the problem. Are they tied to a specific profile?
Yeah Im confused too. Save games are on the hard drive only unless there is something I didnt know. That is why Im on the 3rd 360 sith the original hard drive.

It has to do with account recovery. It's one of the ways MS fights 'game save abuse' or something wacky like that. If you attempt an account recovery, you can lose all your files.

Here's one page of stuff:

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/fo ... e455053291

Slumberland · Post by **Slumberland** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:02 pm

Is there anyone here at all whose 360 hasn't crapped out? Is it like a 95% failure rate?

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 6:15 pm

Slumberland wrote:Is there anyone here at all whose 360 hasn't crapped out? Is it like a 95% failure rate?

Out of the 12 we bought for the office people which was Dec / Jan after launch only 3 of them have had to go back. Of course those 3 were by the people who use them daily.

I still don't get this account recovery thing, it must be something new because I have recovered my account in the past with no issues.

TheGamer · Post by **TheGamer** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:06 pm

Slumberland wrote:Is there anyone here at all whose 360 hasn't crapped out? Is it like a 95% failure rate?

me

Phototropic · Post by **Phototropic** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:10 pm

TheGamer wrote:
Slumberland wrote:Is there anyone here at all whose 360 hasn't crapped out? Is it like a 95% failure rate?
me

Me.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:29 pm

Phototropic wrote:
TheGamer wrote:
Slumberland wrote:Is there anyone here at all whose 360 hasn't crapped out? Is it like a 95% failure rate?
me
Me.

How much do you guys play it?...

Phototropic · Post by **Phototropic** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:54 am

XXXIV wrote:
Phototropic wrote:
TheGamer wrote: me
Me.
How much do you guys play it?...

About 2 hours a day. I'm as shocked as anyone that it is hanging in there.

Post by **Jared** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 10:47 am

Slumberland wrote:Is there anyone here at all whose 360 hasn't crapped out? Is it like a 95% failure rate?

Me.

K_Mosley · Post by **K_Mosley** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:09 am

Me. (An Elite)

Kevin

kicko · Post by **kicko** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:13 am

<------ patiently waits some post edits in about 2-3 weeks.

not a bad read, i found the link on the offical xbox forums and i'm not sure how true this interview is but it certainly makes some sense.
http://www.8bitjoystick.com/archives/ja ... ilures.php

TheGamer · Post by **TheGamer** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:32 am

XXXIV wrote:
Phototropic wrote:
TheGamer wrote: me
Me.
How much do you guys play it?...

Well since I'm unfortunately laid off from work, I get plenty of game time in. 2hours in the morning after I drop the kids off at school and about 2hours at night after everyone has gone to bed.

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:26 pm

Pathetic.

http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Insi ... e10434.htm

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 1:46 pm

10spro wrote:Pathetic.

http://www.dailytech.com/Microsoft+Insi ... e10434.htm

Understatement and thats with the 30% figure they are using.....Its gotta be more than that...

kicko · Post by **kicko** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:42 pm

I believe the majority of that report, it does make sense and help explain failure rate theory.

That story + a new white PS3 and and price drop on the black 40Gb maybe on jan. 28th might make me jump ship for sure.

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:56 pm

Interesting information if true from a Best Buy employee:

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playsta ... id=2482902

Before, i explain what is going on. I will give you my source so there is no more speculation on this topic. I work for Best Buy In Buffalo, NY & I am a supervisor for the gaming department and i have read ALOT of topics on what is going on with Sony and the question "Will there be a $299 PS3" & "The 80GB is being discontinued!"

Since getting to work i was able to get into the system and find out the SKU situation and also we have TWO Sony rep's here. After contacting several people including my playstation rep, the support crew for RLS and playstation, as well as the front offices of SCEA and SCEI I can say with 100% confidence that this is incorrect

Recently in the Employee News for Media there was a notice stating "Sony is phasing out the 80GB console, so the 40GB will be the main PS3 console going forward for now." What is happening is they are removing Motorstorm from the 80GB unit and Spiderman 3 from the 40GB unit. SCEA would neither confirm nor deny the rumors of replacing the game and movie with different titles. What they did admit to was underestimating the demand for the 80GB unit, especially after the 40GB unit was released. This is the reason why almost nobody has any 80GB units in stock. The ETA given me for replenishment of the 80GB unit in its new box was sometime from the end of January to mid March. It was in our RSS System for $449.99 In my opinion it will probably be later rather than sooner as Sony probably wants to sell throught the stock pile of 40GB units (my store alone has over 60 of them) before they put out the new 80GB unit. The removal of Spiderman 3 from the box is the reason the 40GB has gone @risk.

Also! Concerning the White PS3..

It will be released packaged with Metal Gear Solid & A DS3 For $499. It will be a 40GB Model, Hence the 40GB Being the future of Sony. The reason why Sony made it possible to use External HD's. So by summer there will be THREE models to choose from:

PS3 40GB For $399
White PS3 40GB(BC) W/ Metal Gear Solid+DS3 For $499
PS3 80GB(BC)+DS3 For $449.99

BC=Backwards Compatibility.

Interesting if true...no mention of price drop to $299 though...

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:14 pm

http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_ ... op;title;5

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:28 pm

Well, I got the 3RLOD tonight. Oh well, I've had this one since February of 2006 and I'll likely get one of the newer models.

GB_Simo · Post by **GB_Simo** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:26 pm

Slumberland wrote:Is there anyone here at all whose 360 hasn't crapped out? Is it like a 95% failure rate?

One more with a clean bill of health, and I play it often enough. It's made more worrying noises than any other console I own, it's the only console that's guaranteed to give a DDE whenever I play anything from EA Sports, and I sometimes get the impression that it was constructed mainly of tin foil and bits of string, but it hasn't failed. I have to say, though, that it's the only time I've ever owned a console that I expect to fail.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:42 pm

GB_Simo wrote:
Slumberland wrote:Is there anyone here at all whose 360 hasn't crapped out? Is it like a 95% failure rate?
One more with a clean bill of health, and I play it often enough. It's made more worrying noises than any other console I own, it's the only console that's guaranteed to give a DDE whenever I play anything from EA Sports, and I sometimes get the impression that it was constructed mainly of tin foil and bits of string, but it hasn't failed. I have to say, though, that it's the only time I've ever owned a console that I expect to fail.

Mine's been fine since launch, just don't feel the need to tell everyone about it..... Why would I? I wouldn't mind it if it did. I hear the new ones put out less heat.

WPatrick · Post by **WPatrick** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 10:04 pm

greggsand wrote:
GB_Simo wrote:
Slumberland wrote:Is there anyone here at all whose 360 hasn't crapped out? Is it like a 95% failure rate?
One more with a clean bill of health, and I play it often enough. It's made more worrying noises than any other console I own, it's the only console that's guaranteed to give a DDE whenever I play anything from EA Sports, and I sometimes get the impression that it was constructed mainly of tin foil and bits of string, but it hasn't failed. I have to say, though, that it's the only time I've ever owned a console that I expect to fail.
Mine's been fine since launch, just don't feel the need to tell everyone about it..... Why would I? I wouldn't mind it if it did. I hear the new ones put out less heat.

As long as it's the 3 red rings your in good shape. Talk about bad luck I purchased my 360 with a one year EB replacement policy and it lost video output 1 year and 20 days later. No warning signs not even a lock up.

No problem I thought Microsoft will cover this. I was incorrect. The Microsoft rep, and his supervisor both told me I would have to pay 100.00 to get it fixed. At this point I was quite angry and asked the supervisor to explain to me why I had to pay, clearly a system should be expected to last for more than a year. He stated to me over and over it was not covered under warranty. This guy wouldn’t even give me a break. Nor was I allowed to go further up the management chain, nothing either pay for the repair or nothing will be done. They just shut me down.

That bleeping box is sitting in my garage now plugged in and not well ventilated. After 4 days it still hasn’t given me 3 red rings. Maybe it will at some point and I can get the piece of crap thing fixed for free.

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 1:42 am

ScoopBrady wrote:Well, I got the 3RLOD tonight. Oh well, I've had this one since February of 2006 and I'll likely get one of the newer models.

dont count on it. my first one was nov 2006 and i got one a launch unit.

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Sun Jan 27, 2008 11:42 am

That sucks, Scoop.

I bought mine in January 2006 and it made it until June 2007. I had absolutely zero problems with it and then one day it just crapped out. I've had no problems with the replacement unit, and I play probably 10 hours a week on average. It still sounds like it's working harder than Dom Deluise on a treadmill, but it works.

As much as the launch reliability sucks and MS should be abused for it, the three-year warranty extension helped them save face in my book. I know they did it more to keep disgruntled gamers from jumping to Sony, but still, the fact that my XBox is covered until January 2009 without any additional expense on my part has made me a satisfied customer.