2007 NCAA Football Discussion

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:40 pm

pk500 wrote:
bdunn13 wrote:Breakdown of how each coach voted.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/graphics ... /flash.htm
Greg Robinson of Syracuse doesn't have a vote? One of the finest coaches in college football history, the bastard love child of Pop Warner and Amos Alonzo Stagg, isn't part of the process?

OUTRAGE!

Take care,
PK

I don't know how it works..... Satan, errrr Saban did not have a vote either.

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:47 pm

HipE wrote:The Big Ten actually can't play a 9 game conference schedule since they have an uneven number of teams in the conference. If they added a 9th conference game, there would be one team that only plays 8 conference games. Pretty much the only thing they can do to even things out with the other conferences is to add a 12th team and play a conference championship game, which I believe they want to do.

Then how did the ACC do it with 9 teams before expansion?

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:06 pm

The whole thing stinks on ice.

How the hell does Illinois warrant a BCS birth while ranked #13?

At this point Id say scrap the whole thing and go back to the old way. Id much rather see OSU vs USC in the Rose Bowl and let the chips fall where they may. Can that be any worse than this steaming pile of s*** they just gave us?

Jackdog · Post by **Jackdog** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:12 pm

XXXIV wrote:The whole thing stinks on ice.

How the hell does Illinois warrant a BCS birth while ranked #13?

At this point Id say scrap the whole thing and go back to the old way. Id much rather see OSU vs USC in the Rose Bowl and let the chips fall where they may. Can that be any worse than this steaming pile of s*** they just gave us?

At this point. No.
Whoever wins the BCS Championship this year won't get the credit of being a true National Champion. Unless your a fan of one of the schools. If USC and Oklahoma kick ass in their Bowl games. It could be a shared Championship. Thanks BCS!!!

HipE · Post by **HipE** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:16 pm

fsquid wrote:
HipE wrote:The Big Ten actually can't play a 9 game conference schedule since they have an uneven number of teams in the conference. If they added a 9th conference game, there would be one team that only plays 8 conference games. Pretty much the only thing they can do to even things out with the other conferences is to add a 12th team and play a conference championship game, which I believe they want to do.
Then how did the ACC do it with 9 teams before expansion?

They played an 8 game conference schedule, like the Big Ten does now.

bkrich83 · Post by **bkrich83** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 3:43 pm

JackDog wrote:
XXXIV wrote:The whole thing stinks on ice.

How the hell does Illinois warrant a BCS birth while ranked #13?

At this point Id say scrap the whole thing and go back to the old way. Id much rather see OSU vs USC in the Rose Bowl and let the chips fall where they may. Can that be any worse than this steaming pile of s*** they just gave us?
At this point. No.
Whoever wins the BCS Championship this year won't get the credit of being a true National Champion. Unless your a fan of one of the schools. If USC and Oklahoma kick ass in their Bowl games. It could be a shared Championship. Thanks BCS!!!

USC's got no shot. The loss to Stanford is a killer. Even if they kick the living crap out of Illinois, it won't be enough. Illinois is ranked like #13 and USC is supposed to kick the crap out of them.

jondiehl · Post by **jondiehl** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:50 pm

bdunn13 wrote:Breakdown of how each coach voted.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/graphics ... /flash.htm

Mack Brown and Mike Leach should have his voting rights revoked as a coaches.

Kansas ranked over Missouri on their polls? Hey ass-hats, they just played last week on a neutral field and we all know who won. This, from a couple of Big 12 coaches.

Les Miles was worse though.... dropping #1 Mizzou down to 11th, and WVA down to 10th. I guess losing on a neutral field to a #9 Sooner team is worse than losing at home to an unranked, sub-.500 Pitt team? What a dumb ass.

It's almost like some of these coaches pay attention to the top 3 or 4 spots, and then throw the rest wherever with no thought put into it all.

macsomjrr · Post by **macsomjrr** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:17 am

The whole system is a complete joke, totally corrupted by greedy fat cats who are probably loving all of the controversy that this is once again generating. Ri-freakin-diculous. If I had Rose Bowl tickets this year I'd probably sell them asap as I have no interest in paying to see the game this year.

Zlax45 · Post by **Zlax45** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:06 am

jondiehl wrote:
bdunn13 wrote:Breakdown of how each coach voted.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/graphics ... /flash.htm
Mack Brown and Mike Leach should have his voting rights revoked as a coaches.

Kansas ranked over Missouri on their polls? Hey ass-hats, they just played last week on a neutral field and we all know who won. This, from a couple of Big 12 coaches.

Les Miles was worse though.... dropping #1 Mizzou down to 11th, and WVA down to 10th. I guess losing on a neutral field to a #9 Sooner team is worse than losing at home to an unranked, sub-.500 Pitt team? What a dumb ass.

It's almost like some of these coaches pay attention to the top 3 or 4 spots, and then throw the rest wherever with no thought put into it all.

Ty Willingham doesn't even have BC in the top 25...TOO FUNNY

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:28 am

Does anyone have a link for the 2004 poll breakdown?

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 1:43 am

How pathetic is this??? They need to move the game to Charlotte.

Zlax45 · Post by **Zlax45** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:50 am

bdunn13 wrote:How pathetic is this??? They need to move the game to Charlotte.

Doctored pic...Both sidelines were full.

kevinpars · Post by **kevinpars** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 8:45 am

I would love to see bowl games with small turnouts as well as low TV ratings. If the money dries up then the 'tradition' would be dropped like a hot potato.

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 10:33 am

Zlax45 wrote:Doctored pic...Both sidelines were full.

It was right at the start of the 4th quarter so maybe 20,000 people were in the bathroom.

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:28 pm

Notre Dame fans should feel better about their season. They have a winning streak that equals the combined winning streak of the teams in the national championship game.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Tue Dec 04, 2007 7:07 pm

bdunn13 wrote:Notre Dame fans should feel better about their season. They have a winning streak that equals the combined winning streak of the teams in the national championship game.

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:36 am

http://championsbydefault.com/

Post by **Jared** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:01 am

bdunn13 wrote:http://championsbydefault.com/

Although I agree with their characterization of the rest of the BCS bowls, I can't see how they can say that Ohio State or LSU don't deserve to be in the title game (if you're forced to choose two teams). Even though their OOC schedule was weak, Ohio State is the only one-loss team from a big conference in the nation. And LSU, for reasons stated before, have the best resume out of the two-loss teams.

And whether a team is "hot" or not shouldn't play into whether they make the title game or not...it should be based on their performance over the entire season. Even though it was early in the season, Georgia still lost to South Carolina, Va Tech still lost to LSU, etc. Winning streaks shouldn't matter...the entirety of the season should.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:06 am

you say tomato I say potato

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 10:05 am

Click here if you want to find the only meaningful football being played for the rest of this month and in January 2008:

http://www.nfl.com/schedules

At least the NFL plays its exhibition games before the regular season.

Take care,
PK

kevinpars · Post by **kevinpars** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:52 pm

It truly is funny how angry and self-righteous Les Miles was in his press conference before the game on Saturday. Especially when it turns out that negotiations apparently were close to complete for him to go to Michigan. I guess some Michigan people, including Coach Lloyd Carr didn't think Miles was a good fit and when Mile's 'people' tried to contact the AD of Michigan on Friday he was MIA.

When a coach says he did not talk to anyone from another school about a job, all he is saying is "that's what agents are payed to do."

Actually, I don't think he is a good fit. Can anyone honestly say that he did a good coaching job this year? Losing at home to an unranked team? He has had some incredibly talented LSU teams with talent he did not recruit and has underachieved pretty much every year he has been at the school.

It will be interesting to see where LSU is in about 3 years.

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 1:50 pm

Here is a breakdown of cost per win for each 1-A team.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ ... er-win.htm

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 2:20 pm

Big shock to see Greg Robinson in the top five ...

Take care,
PK

kevinpars · Post by **kevinpars** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:43 pm

Well, Michigan got their man. Call it sour grapes (since my wife is a graduate of WVU) but they are welcome to him.

I am not sure I would pay someone 2.5 million dollars who was just out coached by Dave Wannstedt in the most important game of his career. Plus, I still suspect that gimmicky offense. WVU should have been able to grind it out on the ground and win against Pitt - even with a backup QB. They have one of the best fullbacks in the country and 2 excellent RBs.

I doubt that the team in Columbus is losing any sleep over this change.

bkrich83 · Post by **bkrich83** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:21 pm

kevinpars wrote:Well, Michigan got their man. Call it sour grapes (since my wife is a graduate of WVU) but they are welcome to him.

I am not sure I would pay someone 2.5 million dollars who was just out coached by Dave Wannstedt in the most important game of his career. Plus, I still suspect that gimmicky offense. WVU should have been able to grind it out on the ground and win against Pitt - even with a backup QB. They have one of the best fullbacks in the country and 2 excellent RBs.

I doubt that the team in Columbus is losing any sleep over this change.

I am no fan of Rich Rodriguez, but to be fair, he took a program that was stuck in a decade of mediocrity to a team that had 3 straight 10+ win seasons and a pair of BCS bids in the last 3 years.

At Michigan, he will have more budget, more resources, and a much broader recruiting base to bring in the talent to run his system. If I were a Big 10 team, I sure as hell would be nervous. Look at the turnaround Illinois had after getting more athletic. You don't think this guy can recruit even better players, while being the head coach at Michigan?