OT: Bonds Indicted

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:14 pm

Thanks for the link, Inu.

Fainaru-Wada is double-dipping: His byline is still appearing in The Chronicle despite being hired this week by ESPN, with his ESPN.com byline appearing on a Bonds' story last night. It's probably a case of his work with The Chronicle being used in this story even though he's gone, since he did so much reporting on this story through the years.

Take care,
PK

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:17 pm

Inuyasha wrote:Although it breaks my heart to say this, but Football has been america's pastime since 94. I think it's somewhat died down since it's heyday in the early 90s, but it's still above baseball. Also, it's baseball's fault for this to happen. They still do not make an effort to reach out to young fans and attract them to the game. Just go to your playgrounds, you'll see kids playing football and basketball even in summertime. You only see baseball being played by little leaguers.

Another problem with baseball, and it has been documented in a few stories I read this summer, is a precipitous drop in participation by blacks. The dominant minority in baseball now is Latino, as more and more black kids -- especially in urban areas -- are eschewing baseball completely for football and basketball.

Anyways, I see few tears shed for Bonds outside of the Bay Area.

Take care,
PK

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:22 pm

Another scary thought for baseball: This Bonds indictment could just be the fuse that lights the bomb known as the Mitchell Report, which is due to be released soon.

That report could have some pretty damning evidence about widespread steroid abuse in baseball. Then again, pretty much everyone has realized that baseball has been dirty as hell for the past 15 years, so will anyone be that shocked if Mitchell's report names a number of players who were juiced?

Probably not.

Take care,
PK

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:50 pm

pk500 wrote:Another scary thought for baseball: This Bonds indictment could just be the fuse that lights the bomb known as the Mitchell Report, which is due to be released soon.

That report could have some pretty damning evidence about widespread steroid abuse in baseball. Then again, pretty much everyone has realized that baseball has been dirty as hell for the past 15 years, so will anyone be that shocked if Mitchell's report names a number of players who were juiced?

Probably not.

Take care,
PK

The mitchel report could be damning or it could be political drivel. I guess it all depends on what's in the report. Daming would be a stat were 75% of baseball was on the juice that would be huge. If it accuses players but doesn't have any proof, it will be discredited and baseball will bury it under yankees home plate along with Hoffa.

Still, I think the only way baseball gets its credibility back is taking back the two homerun records. Short of that, what are they going to do to players that used roids, broke records or atleast played but are now done?

I don't see Bud Selid doing any of that. I see baseball coming out with tougher testing or penalties but that's about all. Bond's, McGwire's and Sosa's records still stand.

If Baseball lets those records stand, assuming the Mitchell report will be devasating, baseball says to the public we just don't care about the roids records.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:05 pm

I dont see how they can wipe out any records.

1) They didnt have a rule against it until recently and..
2) Selig was co conspirator( along with his pals in the media)

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:15 pm

It'll be difficult to wipe off any records, but for the baseball sport to advance in a significant and credible way, there's no other way around it. As long as the records stand we'll be dancing with wolves.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:11 am

I would hate it if they wiped the records. Ug, it makes me mental just thinking about that. It would cause more problems than it'd fix. I like the scar that is now the HR record & single season HR record.

Hey, Doc Ellis pitched a no-no on acid, coolest drug stat ever, btw...

pigpen81 · Post by **pigpen81** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:32 am

Arrgh...I say they wipe it all out.....give him a big F-You just like he did to baseball and its storied records.

Imagine how many HR's Aaron would have it with Bond's roids in his system.

Bonds is a disgrace.

snaz16 · Post by **snaz16** » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:15 pm

pk500 wrote:
lexbur wrote:That's funny, 1994 is when the Tribe started their streak of 455 straight sellouts. I guess the strike's full effect didn't quite reach here.
No coincidence that was the same year The Jake opened, no? Also didn't hurt that The Tribe made it to the World Series in 1995 and 1997, and that they have been a consistent playoff team since the strike.

Nothing breeds fans like a winning team in a gorgeous downtown ballpark.

Take care,
PK

And also the fact that the original Browns were ripped by a$$hole Art Modell after the 95 season,and the Cavs sucked. The Indians were good,had a lot of star power in Manny,Thome,Alomar,Vizquel,etc.,and they were pretty much the only game in town.