The Show "MLB 07" Thread

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:29 pm

I'm not seeing any slow down on the ps2 version, except for some cutscenes.

I would also agree, too many hits is about the only gameplay issue I'm seeing. I wish it had the presentation of MLB 2k7, but they might push that for the ps3 version.

For a good game of baseball, it's much better than MLB 2k7 for the simple reason of foul balls. I need to see if there is a way to increase those in MLB 2k7... but being able to foul off multiple pitches in a tense spot in the game really draws me in.

brendanrfoley · Post by **brendanrfoley** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:01 pm

Count me among the few seeing EXTREME slowdown whenever a ball is hit - especially with men on base.

I het a flare with JD Drew this morning, and the game dropped to about 15-20 fps. Awful.

webdanzer · Post by **webdanzer** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:11 pm

brendanrfoley wrote:Count me among the few seeing EXTREME slowdown whenever a ball is hit - especially with men on base.

I het a flare with JD Drew this morning, and the game dropped to about 15-20 fps. Awful.

This phenomenon is very strange. I've played 8 or so games, and I have only seen one incidence of this, with runners on second and third and a ball hit to shallow LF.

Maybe the field you are at affects this? (More polys in the stadium or something?)

brendanrfoley · Post by **brendanrfoley** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 5:26 pm

It's the field, but it's also the PS2. Not all systems are created equally. People experiencing slowdown have newer systems - with the cheaper, cost saving chips inside.

Otherwords... those late to the PS2 part are screwjied.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:21 pm

Yeah, we have an older ps2.

GTHobbes · Post by **GTHobbes** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 11:30 pm

Whatever flaws there are, I'd be hard pressed to name any sports game for any console that offered a more complete package than The Show. This game nails so many things about the sport of major league baseball that it's ridiculous. The fact they did it on the PS2 makes it even more impressive, IMO.

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:18 am

double post

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:20 am

Well I have a old 'big' ps2 and I still see the stuttering. I also see it on replays but I dont care about that.

GTHobbes wrote:Whatever flaws there are, I'd be hard pressed to name any sports game for any console that offered a more complete package than The Show. This game nails so many things about the sport of major league baseball that it's ridiculous. The fact they did it on the PS2 makes it even more impressive, IMO.

See, thats what pisses me off. Last year, it was the complete package. Great Gameplay, Great Graphics, No issues with framerate. It played so smooth last year I dont know why they had to go ahead and screw this up. I can get use to it after a couple of games, but it's hard to get use to when you're spliting game time with 2k7s smoothness.

It could have been perfect imo if it wasn't for the stutter and lowering the graphics.

Slumberland · Post by **Slumberland** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:47 am

Question for the PSP players... did they beef up the presentation (cut-scenes) at all from last year's version, at least to match what was in, say, last year's PS2 version? I'm still playing '06 on my PSP, at least until I win a Cy Young and a World Series with my created pitcher, but that looks like it might be very soon. I wish I could carry my career player from one version to the next.

Diablo25 · Post by **Diablo25** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:12 pm

GTHobbes wrote:Whatever flaws there are, I'd be hard pressed to name any sports game for any console that offered a more complete package than The Show. This game nails so many things about the sport of major league baseball that it's ridiculous. The fact they did it on the PS2 makes it even more impressive, IMO.

Booya. Well put.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:32 pm

Slumberland wrote:Question for the PSP players... did they beef up the presentation (cut-scenes) at all from last year's version, at least to match what was in, say, last year's PS2 version? I'm still playing '06 on my PSP, at least until I win a Cy Young and a World Series with my created pitcher, but that looks like it might be very soon. I wish I could carry my career player from one version to the next.

Not really. As mentioned earlier...graphically, it's taken a step back. Obviously the engine has been improved (fielding and batting)...but overall, the polish seems to have deteriorated for the most part. 06 is probably better from a visual standpoint, but 07 is better on the field, so it's worth dealing with the issues.

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:05 pm

I picked up The Show for PSP over the weekend and I'm enjoying it quite a bit. I really like the new career mode. I created myself as a 1B and like how you only control your player. I like how you get to run the bases and play defense on select plays. It would have been very cool if you played every play on defense but maybe you will be able to next year. It's also cool that the manager will sometimes give you specific goals (Drive in this run, don't stike out, etc.) that you need to successfully perform.

brendanrfoley · Post by **brendanrfoley** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:02 pm

I never thought it would come to this... but I think MLB 07 The Show convinced me to buy a PS3.

More often than not, if I'm playing videogames, it's a baseball videogame. And this series is just too darned good to miss - and pin all my hopes on the 2K series.

Thankfully, the PS2 version will keep me fulfilled this year. Next year, I'll take the next-gen plunge. And hopefully, the PS3 price will drop a little bit!

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:30 pm

Torn between two lovers.... feeling like a fool... ok not sure why that song popped into my head, but I feel this way with both of these games.

MLB 2k7 looks so damn impressive, but The Show has such a great hit variety.

I might be with you someday brendanrfoley. If the ps3 version of The Show delivers, I might debate getting a ps3 at some point. I honestly think it'll have something wrong with it, what game doesn't nowdays?

Although I could see it get glaring reviews as the best console baseball game ever and then I'd break down.

The ps2 version is still painful on my eyes after playing MLB 2k7, but I will admit, it's just as fun and more believeable (realistic) in terms of gameplay.

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:43 am

I am really starting to enjoy this game. The stuttering that I mentioned earlier is still there, but it is not as bad as initially thought. It really does play a good game of baseball.

I was always a meter pitcher but have been playing on classic. I am playing on HOF with some slider tweaks and it is very challenging. The difference between a number one starter and a forth starter is huge.

I threw Lohse for the Reds at the Orioles. Gave up 5 walks in 3 2/3. Ended up walking 8 batters and lost 7-3.

I then took Bonderman to Toronto vs. Halladay. Great game in which the Blue Jays strung 3 hits in the first after getting the first two outs for a 1-0 lead. Halladay was just dominating giving up only a single to Polanco, and doubles to Inge and Ordonez. Tiger staff got out of many jams. In the 7th, the Jays loaded the bases, but Ledezma proceeded to get a ground out force at home and two strike outs. The last K got by Pudge but it was Thomas at the plate. Pudge threw him out by a step. Great play. I ended up losing 1-0. It was a very fun game to play.

I do become frustrated at times with the classic pitching as there are times when you don't come close to hitting your spots, but maybe that is the attraction. I need to set up both controllers so I am not always facing the other teams number one. Anyways, great game.

Was playing in Seattle and when Beltre came up some fan yelled out, "Yo Adrian". Pretty funny.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:30 am

Pete wrote:I am really starting to enjoy this game. The stuttering that I mentioned earlier is still there, but it is not as bad as initially thought. It really does play a good game of baseball.

I was always a meter pitcher but have been playing on classic. I am playing on HOF with some slider tweaks and it is very challenging. The difference between a number one starter and a forth starter is huge.

I threw Lohse for the Reds at the Orioles. Gave up 5 walks in 3 2/3. Ended up walking 8 batters and lost 7-3.

I then took Bonderman to Toronto vs. Halladay. Great game in which the Blue Jays strung 3 hits in the first after getting the first two outs for a 1-0 lead. Halladay was just dominating giving up only a single to Polanco, and doubles to Inge and Ordonez. Tiger staff got out of many jams. In the 7th, the Jays loaded the bases, but Ledezma proceeded to get a ground out force at home and two strike outs. The last K got by Pudge but it was Thomas at the plate. Pudge threw him out by a step. Great play. I ended up losing 1-0. It was a very fun game to play.

I do become frustrated at times with the classic pitching as there are times when you don't come close to hitting your spots, but maybe that is the attraction. I need to set up both controllers so I am not always facing the other teams number one. Anyways, great game.

Before you start a game, move over to the other team and select whatever starting pitcher you want to face, then move it back to your team. That's all there is to it.

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:36 am

After being initially underwhlemed, I'm really getting into this on the PSP now. I think the key was jumping up to HOF to get the full effect of zone hitting. On Veteran and all start, the hitting is limited to 4 zones, and I was getting way too many hits. On HOF I'm seeing even more hit variety, and it's now tough to get 10 hits in a game.

The pitcheing also seems much better. I now walk batters unintentionally. Gone is the pinpoint accuracy of the lower levels.

I still don't have either a 360 or PS3, but if the Show turns out to be a great game on the PS3, it may sway me to getting one instead of a 360.

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 11:56 am

The Show07 on my PS2 w/ widescreen on and my 22" widescreen monitor really doesn't look that bad. If you keep going back and forth with 2K7/360 it's much more noticeable, but if you just stick with The Show, you really get used to it and its not an issue anymore. It's not nearly as ugly as High Heat was.

MizzouRah wrote:Torn between two lovers.... feeling like a fool... ok not sure why that song popped into my head, but I feel this way with both of these games.

MLB 2k7 looks so damn impressive, but The Show has such a great hit variety.

I might be with you someday brendanrfoley. If the ps3 version of The Show delivers, I might debate getting a ps3 at some point. I honestly think it'll have something wrong with it, what game doesn't nowdays?

Although I could see it get glaring reviews as the best console baseball game ever and then I'd break down. The ps2 version is still painful on my eyes after playing MLB 2k7, but I will admit, it's just as fun and more believeable (realistic) in terms of gameplay.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:12 pm

JackB1 wrote:The Show07 on my PS2 w/ widescreen on and my 22" widescreen monitor really doesn't look that bad. If you keep going back and forth with 2K7/360 it's much more noticeable, but if you just stick with The Show, you really get used to it and its not an issue anymore. It's not nearly as ugly as High Heat was.

MizzouRah wrote:Torn between two lovers.... feeling like a fool... ok not sure why that song popped into my head, but I feel this way with both of these games.

MLB 2k7 looks so damn impressive, but The Show has such a great hit variety.

I might be with you someday brendanrfoley. If the ps3 version of The Show delivers, I might debate getting a ps3 at some point. I honestly think it'll have something wrong with it, what game doesn't nowdays?

Although I could see it get glaring reviews as the best console baseball game ever and then I'd break down. The ps2 version is still painful on my eyes after playing MLB 2k7, but I will admit, it's just as fun and more believeable (realistic) in terms of gameplay.

Do you have it hooked up via VGA or are you talking about a TV set?

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:13 pm

The PSP version is so fun! I can't let this thread get buried on page 2! It's so refreshing to just put it on All-Star (OK, I suck, everyone else seems to be playing HOF) with classic pitching and run with it.

Slumberland · Post by **Slumberland** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:18 pm

Thatnks for the bump, Leeb. I've got that Friday-paycheck-new-game-itch and I'm a little sick of the ball rolling past my fielders in '06, so maybe it's finally time.

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 6:39 pm

Good news for the PSP version is that season mode does not have the problem the PS2 version does with teams not trading. I simulated a few months of a season and saw a number of trades.

I also have to reiterate that moving up to HOF has really helped the hitting and pitching. I can no longer pinpoint my pitches, so in that respect it feels very High Heat-ish. I actually walked a few guys when I was trying to get them out!

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:08 pm

Leebo33 wrote:The PSP version is so fun! I can't let this thread get buried on page 2! It's so refreshing to just put it on All-Star (OK, I suck, everyone else seems to be playing HOF) with classic pitching and run with it.

Yeah, you definitely need to use classic pitching. For some reason the meter is so small, it's hard to see with my deteriorating eye sight these days. I seem to remember last years being a bit bigger...but on well. With classic, the pitching isn't nearly as precise.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Fri Mar 09, 2007 7:59 pm

matthewk wrote:Good news for the PSP version is that season mode does not have the problem the PS2 version does with teams not trading. I simulated a few months of a season and saw a number of trades.

I also have to reiterate that moving up to HOF has really helped the hitting and pitching. I can no longer pinpoint my pitches, so in that respect it feels very High Heat-ish. I actually walked a few guys when I was trying to get them out!

I've read season mode is more than one year, what does that entail?

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sat Mar 10, 2007 12:55 am

MizzouRah wrote:I've read season mode is more than one year, what does that entail?

I would say two or more years.