MLB 2K7

webdanzer · Post by **webdanzer** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:54 am

Well, my Pro results didn't last all that long.

Very next game I won 11-0, with Mussina pitching a 13k no hitter!

So, I'm done running to the board posting results for a while.

I had up and down games since then. I discovered the ability to change the cpu change speeds slider the way Kevin mentioned yesterday as well, and setting that and the step influence to max has seemed to knock my power numbers down some.

Danimal, set the CPU offensive ratings up to or near at least all star settings, and make sure you really reduce the AI's 'good pitcher' effectiveness down to 25 or below. That should help them out a bit.

I don't think I'll be able to find a way to make the CPU a challenge offensively and still have them K, though.

The last game I played was a classic 6-4 win, Yanks over Boston. Players were getting plunked, both managers ejected, etc.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:00 am

JackB1 wrote: If 2K7 didn't have the swing stick and it's pitching interface, it would be in the garbage and it would be The Show all the way.

This is where you are wrong. The Show has bugs just like MLB 2k7 has. The thing is, MLB 2k7 is WAYYYY more immersive than The Show, warts and all.

I'm actually enjoying Morgan and Miller for some reason.

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:10 am

I made a couple tweaks that helped me with the swing stick:

--Zoomed the view to 100. Still not great at reading pitches, but it's worked better for me. Maybe because it feels more like the zoomed in view for MVP.

--Changed my grip on the swing stick. I was using my thumb on top, which resulted in too many bunts and didn't seem fluid. I switched to holding the bottom and top edges of the stick with my thumb and index finger. Helped my hitting a lot and makes power swinging easier.

One thing I'm wondering about sliders, and I remember this from 2k4, is whether 50 is the "zero" setting. In other words, at 50, the game is using pure ratings, with no adjustments. I remember with 2k4, I only had to make a few small changes to pitching and swinging tendencies to get a really realistic game. While I like 2k7, it definitely needs help with foul frequency, how often the AI throws balls, and the AI swing logic (especially taking a first strike and swinging outside the zone when behind).

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:12 am

Anyone try using the "dynamic" sliders where they are supposed to change as you get better or something?

I was just wondering what that was all about as I keep forgetting to check that option out.

Gangrel · Post by **Gangrel** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:31 am

I may be the only one on here with an old Xbox, but does anyone have sliders for it? I rented this from Blockbuster last night just to check it out, and tho I am loving MVP 07 mod on my computer, i love the presentation/pitching in 2k7.

I tried using Heelfans' 360 sliders, but they don't seem to translate to Xbox all that well (plus a bunch of sliders are missing on Xbox)

Slumberland · Post by **Slumberland** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:35 am

Brando70 wrote:One thing I'm wondering about sliders, and I remember this from 2k4, is whether 50 is the "zero" setting.

I suspected this too, and tried some games with every single slider set to 50 except for pitch interface and pitch speed jacked to 100. It was interesting, but ultimately too easy to hit (and I suck at hitting in this game) and even if that gives you 'base ratings', so to speak, some things are just strangely tuned in this game.

tjung0831 · Post by **tjung0831** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:50 am

I went back and played a game of MVP05, Rangers at Royals and had a great time with the game and thought, this game is as good as 2K7. Then I popped in 2K7, played the same two teams and I realized that MVP just isn't as good. I was so much more immersed in 2K7, I can't even describe it. I've got it tweaked where the fielding isn't an issue any more for me. I just followed Leebo's advice and increased the infielder reaction time and this game fields almost as good as MVP. I will go one further and say it surpasses MVP, because of all the little things like the different type of animations you seen on the infield. It just does so many little things right, that's what I love about it. 2K7 is without a doubt my favorite baseball game of all time.

Slumberland · Post by **Slumberland** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:52 am

I do like the infield animations, and it seems like they got a lot of custom throws in. Eckstein does that throw where it looks like his arm might fall off, and Reyes really looks like himself out there. Neat.

kicko · Post by **kicko** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:57 am

I have been slowly tweaking my sliders each game little by little but has anyone tried these from the 2k board http://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110650

Slumberland · Post by **Slumberland** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:01 pm

Anyone tried Heelfan's sliders with swing stick? And web, you don't count. You are a hitting machine. Me, I'm behind every fastball and in front of every change-up and curve.

tjung0831 · Post by **tjung0831** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:07 pm

kicko wrote:I have been slowly tweaking my sliders each game little by little but has anyone tried these from the 2k board http://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110650

i haven't tried a certain set of sliders yet, i've just increased the reaction time for the infielders, turned down the power, and lowered the contact and upped the CPU pitching a little bit. I'm basically playing on customized all star settings and so far i'm 1-1 in my Royals season, a 3-2 win and then a 6-5 loss to the Red Sox. I'm very happy with the amount of hits both teams are averaging and the games have been very exciting. The only issue's I need to work on are the power numbers. Sweeney has three HR's already and Teahen has hit two. I'm also striking out a lot though which I'm ok with. I believe Schilling had 13k's in the opener in which I still ended up winning. I'm seeing a good amount of double's and couple of triples for the other team so far. The game feels like real baseball to me.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:10 pm

Slumberland wrote:I do like the infield animations, and it seems like they got a lot of custom throws in. Eckstein does that throw where it looks like his arm might fall off, and Reyes really looks like himself out there. Neat.

Yeah, Eck had two errors against Florida and you could tell it was on plays where he just tried to rush the throw and couldn't get a handle on the ball.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:15 pm

kicko wrote:I have been slowly tweaking my sliders each game little by little but has anyone tried these from the 2k board http://2ksports.com/forums/showthread.php?t=110650

These look good as well, thanks for the link!

I DO think with the right settings, this game will be playable - not perfect by any means and frustrating at times, but playable.

kicko · Post by **kicko** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:32 pm

i'm fairly new to 360's, is there any easy way to transfer rosters from a pc? I have my pc and 360 networked so i was curious, thanks

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:19 pm

tjung0831 wrote:I went back and played a game of MVP05, Rangers at Royals and had a great time with the game and thought, this game is as good as 2K7. Then I popped in 2K7, played the same two teams and I realized that MVP just isn't as good. I was so much more immersed in 2K7, I can't even describe it. I've got it tweaked where the fielding isn't an issue any more for me. I just followed Leebo's advice and increased the infielder reaction time and this game fields almost as good as MVP. I will go one further and say it surpasses MVP, because of all the little things like the different type of animations you seen on the infield. It just does so many little things right, that's what I love about it. 2K7 is without a doubt my favorite baseball game of all time.

It may be immersive but it doesn't play as good a game of baseball as MVP. MVP gets the nuts and bolts right. Second you are comparing "presentation" based on a game that was release in 2005. Why not you just go back to high heat baseball. I think comparing MVP and 2k7 is silly because there's no more MVP.

Then you have the bugs. 2k7 is a bug filled mess. I see one every other game. It's really stupid.

If you strip away the presentation you have a game that isn't really complete. I don't buy the 3 year plan.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:25 pm

Even if MVP 2k7 was out, EA sucks when it comes to presentation. I love NHL 07, but other than the end of period review video, there's no "real" presentation to the game.

Slumberland · Post by **Slumberland** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:26 pm

JRod wrote:I don't buy the 3 year plan.

I know making absolute statements at the earliest possible date is de rigeur on videogame message boards, but I don't know why you would say this. Remember MVP 2003? Catchers that wouldn't tag people and other such marvels? They got it worked out.

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:42 pm

Without reading through the entire thread..... does anyone have the PS3 version?

nyisles16 · Post by **nyisles16** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:16 pm

bdunn13 wrote:Without reading through the entire thread..... does anyone have the PS3 version?

I know Sully has it ...

nyisles16 · Post by **nyisles16** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:18 pm

JRod wrote:
tjung0831 wrote:I went back and played a game of MVP05, Rangers at Royals and had a great time with the game and thought, this game is as good as 2K7. Then I popped in 2K7, played the same two teams and I realized that MVP just isn't as good. I was so much more immersed in 2K7, I can't even describe it. I've got it tweaked where the fielding isn't an issue any more for me. I just followed Leebo's advice and increased the infielder reaction time and this game fields almost as good as MVP. I will go one further and say it surpasses MVP, because of all the little things like the different type of animations you seen on the infield. It just does so many little things right, that's what I love about it. 2K7 is without a doubt my favorite baseball game of all time.
It may be immersive but it doesn't play as good a game of baseball as MVP. MVP gets the nuts and bolts right. Second you are comparing "presentation" based on a game that was release in 2005. Why not you just go back to high heat baseball. I think comparing MVP and 2k7 is silly because there's no more MVP.

Then you have the bugs. 2k7 is a bug filled mess. I see one every other game. It's really stupid.

If you strip away the presentation you have a game that isn't really complete. I don't buy the 3 year plan.

Sent Take 2 an email about the game this morning.. they need to take a look at the franchise/GM modes on this game.. The lineups & players playing out of position are killing me.. Overall gameplay has been improved, but it is quite obvious they do not QC the other modes in the game.. really love seeing Derrek Lee as the Cubs leadoff hitter!

Sudz · Post by **Sudz** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:20 pm

they did QC it...just decided it would still sell w/it like that.

kevinpars · Post by **kevinpars** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:22 pm

Considering the financial info coming out of Take Two, I am not sure they will be around for year 3. Someone else may own the 2K line by then and may have other ideas.

Personally, there were some things about MVP that I never really liked and I never felt comfortable with the pitching interface for some reason. But the ability to play all of your minor league games with all the minor league teams and uniforms really was something special. That game had some depth!

Here we are 16 months into the 'next generation' and sports games are still all about graphics. You have to go back a generation to to get a sports game with all the options. No minor league play in MLB, no World League in Madden, no European leagues in NHL. And the historical stat tracking is still not very good. I can't even find if or where MLB tracks World Series winners or division winners in MLB. I guess that is not included in year 1.

But all that said, I at least am having fun playing MLB. Although some of the atmosphere is dare I call it superfluous. If you want to get in a quick game, you really have to turn off a lot of the extra stuff (highlights, post pitch stuff, inning highlights, batter highlights, swing feedback). All that stuff is great, but who has the time to invest in a game that takes an hour? Cut all that out and it saves a good bit of time.

tjung0831 · Post by **tjung0831** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:26 pm

JRod wrote:
It may be immersive but it doesn't play as good a game of baseball as MVP.

Sure it does at least to me it does. After spending some quality time with it this weekend, it plays a much better game than MVP in just about every aspect. Of course this is all personal preference, everybody has different opinions. The hit variety is better, the pitching is better, i think the fielding is better as well. I love MVP, always will but after popping it back in, the outfields were way to huge in that game, grounders were way to routine..etc. I really couldn't believe how big the outfields were that was a shock to me since I hadn't played it in sometime.
I can see the MVP influence in 2K7 though, it's definitely there. I think 2k7 did a rock solid job this year and it should only get better.

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:40 pm

MVP was a good game but I think it's overrated as a sim. What made MVP great to play was that it was FUN. It had flaws just like any other game, but you could live with those since it was a game that sucked you in.

Just give me a fun game that gives me a good variety of outcomes I'll happy. So far 2k7 is doing that for me.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:56 pm

tjung0831 wrote:I think 2k7 did a rock solid job this year and it should only get better.

I love 2k7 and all, but that's the overstatement of the century right there. It is about as far from rock solid as Rosie O'Donnell's midsection.