MLB 2K7

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:05 pm

Diablo25 wrote:
ScoopBrady wrote:I think I know what the delay is that some of you are talking about. With the right analog stick you want to pull back on it right after the pitch is released (every pitch) and that will make your batter step back and prepare to swing. When the ball reaches the plate you need to let go of the analog stick to swing or press up on the analog stick for a power swing. If you're waiting too long to pull back on the analog stick you will likely see a delay. Seriously, pull back on the analog stick as soon as the pitch leaves the pitchers hands. It takes a couple of games to get used to it but once you do it adds more to the batting game other than press the A button to swing the bat.
Nope. The swing stick sucks IMO. I use Classic hitting. Trust me, there is a delay.

Ditto, there's no checkswing as I said earlier with the swingstick no matter how you bring the RS back as the pitcher releases the pitch, and hitting is a bit more bearable for me with the classic button.

Now I am just wondering whether to stick with my PS3 pre-order which according to Sully is no better or stick to the 360 for online play.

Slumberland · Post by **Slumberland** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:14 pm

Last year check-swing was mapped to the R-trigger or something strange like that. Might that still be the case?

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:14 pm

Diablo25 wrote: Nope. The swing stick sucks IMO. I use Classic hitting. Trust me, there is a delay.

There is a delay for you. I'm not seeing it at all, and I think most aren't.

Is everyone having an issue on an LCD?

AJColossal · Post by **AJColossal** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:17 pm

Danimal wrote:
Diablo25 wrote: Nope. The swing stick sucks IMO. I use Classic hitting. Trust me, there is a delay.
There is a delay for you. I'm not seeing it at all, and I think most aren't.

Is everyone having an issue on an LCD?

I have an LCD, and I'm seeing the delay.

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:18 pm

Danimal wrote:
Diablo25 wrote: Nope. The swing stick sucks IMO. I use Classic hitting. Trust me, there is a delay.
There is a delay for you. I'm not seeing it at all, and I think most aren't.

Is everyone having an issue on an LCD?

Maybe that's it because I am seeing a delay. However I am biased. I have never liked any 2k baseball offering. I can not get into it.

I am looking towards "The Show" for the first time, to get my baseball fix. DSP'ers can be wrong?

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 1:21 pm

Sudz wrote:
MizzouRah wrote:Supposedly Franchise mode is a TON better this year, if so.. this game should do fine for my baseball fix this year.
how so?

Per the most recent Gamestop interview with Brinkman, the whole system has been revamped and looks like a webpage with links. There is also supposedly a ton of franchise (league) information as well.

Sport73 · Post by **Sport73** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:11 pm

I played a few games of the demo last night and was really quite impressed. The graphics are stunning, and the heart of the game (pitcher/batter duel) is about as good as it gets. I didn't have any significant issues with the fielding during my play, but I can see where everyone's coming from in terms of tracking the ball etc.

NOTE: Those of you experiencing delay issues, be sure to turn OFF any image-processing logic in your HD sets - use GAME MODE if available. It is usually the scaler/filter chip in an HD set that causes the latency.

Personally, I had no issue with the responsiveness of the swing stick and I love it as a hitting control mechanism. The whole step/judge/swing tempo has a huge impact on hitting results and you really feel like you did something right when you launch one out of the park. It also emphasizes different pitching styles as knowing when to step is deeply impacted by the pticher's mechanic and point of release.

I'm anxious to pick this one up. It's probably not yet MVP '05 level, but pretty close and certainly a true 'next-gen' looking game.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:14 pm

Guys that are having issues with the fielding, especially in the outfield. Have you guys turned OFF the "Keep Fielder in View" option? When it's on, you're watching the fielder the whole time, when it's off, it centers on the ball landing spot and you have to get your fielder there (which is like every other game). Might give that a shot...I did that right away and it seems to work better than the default.

Sully · Post by **Sully** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:29 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:Guys that are having issues with the fielding, especially in the outfield. Have you guys turned OFF the "Keep Fielder in View" option? When it's on, you're watching the fielder the whole time, when it's off, it centers on the ball landing spot and you have to get your fielder there (which is like every other game). Might give that a shot...I did that right away and it seems to work better than the default.

Yes. It might help a little, but it's still tough picking the ball up off of the bat. I didn't play the demo, but I'm wondering if it was well lit. I've noticed at some stadiums it's really difficult to pick up on the ball, while others (like the Metrodome), I have no problems at all.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:35 pm

Yeah, I'm surprised they went with such a small ball. It needs to be just slightly bigger...(and yes, I get that all the time).

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:45 pm

I'm not sure about console game patches, but I wonder if they can make it bigger via patch?

Someone said when you log into XBL with the game it has an update, I'm assuming that's a roster update?

Diablo25 · Post by **Diablo25** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:51 pm

Sport73 wrote: NOTE: Those of you experiencing delay issues, be sure to turn OFF any image-processing logic in your HD sets - use GAME MODE if available. It is usually the scaler/filter chip in an HD set that causes the latency.

I tried that and there is no difference. BTW, I have a Samsung 46" DLP. I'm going to try and set my 360 to 1080i and see if that helps...probably won't but its worth a try. The delay must be due to my TV. If that is the case this game will be shelved and MLB 07 The Show will be getting my $$. We have no info on the PS3 version but if its ANYTHING like the PS2 version it will be money. I'm not giving up hope on 2K7 but it doesn't look good. For the record, if I didn't have this delay I would really be digging the demo.

Zeppo · Post by **Zeppo** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 2:53 pm

I enjoyed it more that I thought I would. Everything seems pretty solid, but it's hard to say how all the nuances will play out. The lineup management is nice, everything is slick without a lot of wasted button presses to fumble through the menus.

I don't like the fiedling camera at all. There seems to be a clear design decision to look at the players rather than look at the ball. As a viewer, I guess it's better and more interesting to look at the player. As a gamer, I need to see the ball! Those old big-head japanese games used to zoom up into the stratosphere to keep the ball in view. So basically, fielding for this game consists of getting to the highlighted spot, the ball is an afterthought. I haven't had trouble fielding fly balls in the outfield, but fielding grounders has been very tough for me. The camera being very low, behind the plate, and zoomed in makes it very, very hard to judge where the ball is in relation to the player and very hard to see the highlighted spot. More than once, I've had Reyes just run right over a ground ball without making any attempt to get it. Is there a button I am missing?

I feel like the fielding can become playable once I adjust to it, but it's not ideal by any stretch. I'd much rather see the ball more often. Also, seems like the ball on long fly balls only appears once every few feet, something weird going on with the framerate. Doesn't really affect much, since in general you aren't seeing the ball in the air, but it's a little odd.

Overall, I'd say I am pleasantly surprised having played the demo, and this game may actually turn out to be pretty good. I'd love to see how online play is. A 2K online season in this game could rock, with trades, injuries, stats tracked, etc.

Diablo25 · Post by **Diablo25** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:02 pm

Good thoughts Zep. I agree on the fielding cam...its awkward. IMO, for me to really get into a baseball game there have to be certain absolutes - A quality pitcher interface (looks good on 2K7, great in fact), a quality hitter interface (outside of the delay I'm seeing, 2k7 looks good) and a solid fielding model (not so good in 2K7). Everything else is important but these are the bread and butter of baseball games to me. Super dooper menus, graphics and other bells and whistles are great but they pale in comparison to a good playing baseball game. Just my opinion...I could be wrong.

PadresFan104 · Post by **PadresFan104** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:07 pm

Sport73 wrote:
NOTE: Those of you experiencing delay issues, be sure to turn OFF any image-processing logic in your HD sets - use GAME MODE if available. It is usually the scaler/filter chip in an HD set that causes the latency.

Doh! I had forgotten about the "Game" setting on my 40" Samsung LCD. Once I went to this setting, hitting became much more responsive. (And I'm sure it'll help in GOW as well!!!) Thanks for the tip!!

Sudz · Post by **Sudz** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:13 pm

i wish the batting cam would zoom out a few feet more.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:18 pm

Diablo25 wrote:Good thoughts Zep. I agree on the fielding cam...its awkward. IMO, for me to really get into a baseball game there have to be certain absolutes - A quality pitcher interface (looks good on 2K7, great in fact), a quality hitter interface (outside of the delay I'm seeing, 2k7 looks good) and a solid fielding model (not so good in 2K7). Everything else is important but these are the bread and butter of baseball games to me. Super dooper menus, graphics and other bells and whistles are great but they pale in comparison to a good playing baseball game. Just my opinion...I could be wrong.

Of course you're not wrong, everyone is different in what they are looking for in a game. It's just nice to post and read here because most of us weed out the, "hey, they got the color of the green monster wrong" talk.

Fun factor is #1 with me, just like NHL 07 is one fun game for me. I can't wait to play my first full game tonight when I get home tonight to judge the game a bit better.

I do wish they wouldn't have tied bunting into the game stick though, for now I think I'll stick to "classic" batting when I play some games.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:19 pm

Sudz wrote:i wish the batting cam would zoom out a few feet more.

I hope they revamp the whole camera system next year to include many more options. If they had time for that this year, I think everyone would have REALLY been pleased with this game overall as the fielding is the most talked about annoyance with the game.

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:34 pm

Zep.....there is an option to turn off something with the fielding camera to make it better. I forget what its called, but I was reading about it over in the OS boards. Something like checking the "dont show fielder" option or something. Check around in the game options and tell me if that helps.
EVERYONE is talking about disliking the fielding camera. Is it that bad?
Is it the same in the demo?

Zeppo wrote:I enjoyed it more that I thought I would. Everything seems pretty solid, but it's hard to say how all the nuances will play out. The lineup management is nice, everything is slick without a lot of wasted button presses to fumble through the menus.

I don't like the fiedling camera at all. There seems to be a clear design decision to look at the players rather than look at the ball. As a viewer, I guess it's better and more interesting to look at the player. As a gamer, I need to see the ball! Those old big-head japanese games used to zoom up into the stratosphere to keep the ball in view. So basically, fielding for this game consists of getting to the highlighted spot, the ball is an afterthought. I haven't had trouble fielding fly balls in the outfield, but fielding grounders has been very tough for me. The camera being very low, behind the plate, and zoomed in makes it very, very hard to judge where the ball is in relation to the player and very hard to see the highlighted spot. More than once, I've had Reyes just run right over a ground ball without making any attempt to get it. Is there a button I am missing?

I feel like the fielding can become playable once I adjust to it, but it's not ideal by any stretch. I'd much rather see the ball more often. Also, seems like the ball on long fly balls only appears once every few feet, something weird going on with the framerate. Doesn't really affect much, since in general you aren't seeing the ball in the air, but it's a little odd.

Overall, I'd say I am pleasantly surprised having played the demo, and this game may actually turn out to be pretty good. I'd love to see how online play is. A 2K online season in this game could rock, with trades, injuries, stats tracked, etc.

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:35 pm

Zeppo....this is what I was referring to....Db already mentioned it.

dbdynsty25 wrote:Guys that are having issues with the fielding, especially in the outfield. Have you guys turned OFF the "Keep Fielder in View" option? When it's on, you're watching the fielder the whole time, when it's off, it centers on the ball landing spot and you have to get your fielder there (which is like every other game). Might give that a shot...I did that right away and it seems to work better than the default.

Sudz · Post by **Sudz** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:43 pm

it out tomorrow or today?

fanatic · Post by **fanatic** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:51 pm

PadresFan104 wrote:
Sport73 wrote:
NOTE: Those of you experiencing delay issues, be sure to turn OFF any image-processing logic in your HD sets - use GAME MODE if available. It is usually the scaler/filter chip in an HD set that causes the latency.

Doh! I had forgotten about the "Game" setting on my 40" Samsung LCD. Once I went to this setting, hitting became much more responsive. (And I'm sure it'll help in GOW as well!!!) Thanks for the tip!!

Is this a Game "Picture setting" (ie. preset contrast levels, etc..) or is it some other part of the tv's settings. I had no idea picture settings (if that's what you are referring to) could affect responsiveness.

Slumberland · Post by **Slumberland** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:51 pm

Anyone know the deal on editing players this year? Can I alter the appearance of Bond's stand-in, or do I have to create him from scratch. I prefer the first.

fanatic · Post by **fanatic** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:52 pm

Sudz wrote:it out tomorrow or today?

Today. Picked one up at lunch from EB.

snate · Post by **snate** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 3:53 pm

PSP impressions anyone?