The Official Console Talk Thread

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:23 pm

RandyM wrote:Wrong topic? Hope not.

Not completely wrong, but there is a dedicated Wii thread that everyone has been using for games:

http://www.digitalsportspage.com/module ... &start=775

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:24 pm

RandyM wrote:So given a choice between Call of Duty 3 (or <fill in shooter here>) on the Wii versus my 360....which way do you lean?

Well, if I've got my choice, I'll take your 360. I'll pm you with my address, and hell, I'll even pay for shipping.

In all seriousness I haven't tried a shooter on the Wii yet because I've heard Red Steel sucks ass, I have no interest in Far Cry, and I've already got COD3 on the 360. I will likely check out my first shooter when Metroid is released.

Naples39 · Post by **Naples39** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:45 pm

I have COD3 for Wii, and it's okay. The controls weren't as natural as I hoped, though they do work really well on the tank levels. It's fun but nothing great. Once I got started playing GoW and Vegas though, I have barely touched COD3, so that should answer your question.

RandyM · Post by **RandyM** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:55 pm

Well, I returned CoD for the Wii when I saw that it was basically single player only.

In this day and age, how does anyone successfully sell and market a single player shooter?

Randy

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 4:18 pm

Where are the January 2007 NPD numbers? It's past the middle of February already, and I still can't find any numbers. It won't affect my purcahsing decisions, but I am curious as to how the various consoles are selling post-Christmas.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:08 pm

matthewk wrote:Where are the January 2007 NPD numbers? It's past the middle of February already, and I still can't find any numbers. It won't affect my purcahsing decisions, but I am curious as to how the various consoles are selling post-Christmas.

They were due out yesterday, but I haven't seen a single link to them. Must be M$ paying some people off to make some switched to thier figures

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 5:59 pm

Danimal wrote:They were due out yesterday, but I haven't seen a single link to them. Must be M$ paying some people off to make some switched to thier figures

Naa, I think retailers were too busy writing up their request for funds from Sony for the units they had on their shelves throughout the month

Should be very interesting to see how many consoles Nintendo got into the marketplace--I'm expecting it to be lower than I originally thought.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Feb 17, 2007 1:14 am

I almost broke down today...I was out looking to buy a PS3 and saw the Comp USA in Skokie had a store closing sale and bought a 22" flat wide PC monitor instead. WoW is looking prettier and prettier.

For all you in Chicago area....They have 10% of of all 360 games and accs...10% of all PCs, monitors,printers, games...

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 9:53 am

http://nexgenwars.com/

The 360 seems to be doing well.

vader29 · Post by **vader29** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 12:39 pm

Saw this on gameinformer: http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/ ... .57890.htm

80 bucks more than a premium for a bigger hard drive and HDMI.

Jimmydeicide · Post by **Jimmydeicide** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 1:20 pm

Were is all the PS3 good news ? Like sony and immersion have settled.

Now that would be sweet.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:33 pm

Preliminary NPD data for January was released:

Wii - 436,000 units
360 - 294,000 units
PS3 - 244,000 units

jLp vAkEr0 · Post by **jLp vAkEr0** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:04 pm

Dave wrote:Preliminary NPD data for January was released:

Wii - 436,000 units
360 - 294,000 units
PS3 - 244,000 units

I'm not surprised considering that I see PS3s in stock in every store I visit.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:11 pm

jLp vAkEr0 wrote:
Dave wrote:Preliminary NPD data for January was released:

Wii - 436,000 units
360 - 294,000 units
PS3 - 244,000 units
I'm not surprised considering that I see PS3s in stock in every store I visit.

I see em all the time too.
What I dont see are the games that would push me into buying one.

It is good to see Nintendo kicking ass.

kevinpars · Post by **kevinpars** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:29 pm

On xboxic.com there was an interesting report today:

According to German site cynamite, debug 360’s have been given a software update by Microsoft that slows down the disc drive speed, meaning playing games is quieter.

I would love to see this happen in regular 360 machines - if it is possible. I have 2 issues with my DVD drive spinning at top speed - it is noisy, and in the case of my box, the drive gets so hot that after an hour of gaming if I want to switch games, I have to wait 10 minutes for the drive to cool down enough to be able to read discs again.

GameSeven · Post by **GameSeven** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:41 pm

Another heretofore PS3 exclusive, Mercenaries 2, confirmed 360 (and other platform) bound.

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?optio ... 2&Itemid=2

webdanzer · Post by **webdanzer** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:02 pm

Sony is apparently pulling the Emotion Engine hardware from their European PS3s to save some cash.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070223-8912.html

They'll be going the software emulation route.

This seems like scrambling.

More: http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs. ... /2/23/7197

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:24 pm

They planned to remove the hardware. Software emulation wasn't ready for the US/Japan launch.

But supposedly, with software, it may be possible to play PS2 games with some enhancement.

Maybe they're using 65 nanometer Cells already.

But they're charging a lot in the UK, supposedly because retailers demanded margins. So there may be some people who go across the Channel to buy it on the Continent.

Yet some retailers in the UK are reporting good preorders. Maybe it's the bundled Casino Royale or something.

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:59 pm

wco81 wrote:They planned to remove the hardware. Software emulation wasn't ready for the US/Japan launch.

But supposedly, with software, it may be possible to play PS2 games with some enhancement.

These "enhancements" include FEWER PS1/PS2 BC games than the US/Japan machines. Unbelievable that Sony has the balls to charge European users more for less....

Whats next? A surcharge for the BR drive?

Naples39 · Post by **Naples39** » Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:36 pm

Fairly clever song/shot at Sony: http://thelastboss.com/post.phtml?pk=2287

Personally, I am really loving my 360 right now. Even my Wii has had a lot of alone time recently.

Boltman · Post by **Boltman** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 8:43 pm

ScoopBrady wrote:
RandyM wrote:So given a choice between Call of Duty 3 (or <fill in shooter here>) on the Wii versus my 360....which way do you lean?
Well, if I've got my choice, I'll take your 360. I'll pm you with my address, and hell, I'll even pay for shipping.

In all seriousness I haven't tried a shooter on the Wii yet because I've heard Red Steel sucks ass, I have no interest in Far Cry, and I've already got COD3 on the 360. I will likely check out my first shooter when Metroid is released.

The review for Far Cry on X play seriosly freaked me out, it is worse than anything ever made LOL.

The Wii is surely not made for FPS games that require a good graphics card or chipset.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 2:32 am

http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/070301/sfth075.html?.v=79

Well I haven't bought any additional controllers so I guess I'll wait for the new design with rumble.

Nice to have but really hope Sony didn't reward Immersion with more than what the court ordered. Immersion seems like patent trolls.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 12:40 pm

wco81 wrote:Immersion seems like patent trolls.

People protecting their patent's are now trolls?

What I see here is Sony realizing and fixing one of the many mistakes they have made with the PS3, good for them.

The good news for Sony is that MS squandered their opportunity to seal this geenration with an unreliable product and a push for something most people won't even use (Windows Live).

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:21 pm

IIRC, when Immersion reached a deal with MS, MS took an equity stake and then they went after Sony on this claim.

This is suspiciously like the SCO case, where MS essentially gave them money to litigate against IBM for using Linux and Linux in general.

There is the RIMM example of course, where NTP extorted over half a billion and it turns out NTP never made any product, just knew how to play the patent game.

A company just formed called MP3 Technologies (the address for which is a law firm) is suing Apple and some other MP3 player companies for some patent it acquired just recently. Patent was just awarded by the US PTO in 2002.

We end up paying more because of the messed up patent system and litigation.

Sony may not increase the price of the new controllers with rumble. But they might have cut the price, if they didn't have to pay out in this case.

GameSeven · Post by **GameSeven** » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:33 pm

wco81 wrote:Immersion seems like patent trolls.

In general, I do have distaste for frivolous litigation in the patent realm, but I definitely dig Immersion as I recall having both a flightstick and a steering wheel for PC with their tech and APIs, must be around 1998 and they exhibited some of the best implemented FF effects to this day, IMHO.