Official PS3 thread (Part Deux)

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Brando70 wrote: I imagine they would block certain types of files like mp3s from being transferred. But, assuming game saves or roster files and so on have a unique identifier, they could go back and forth. Something like that would be really awesome, especially for communities of users like DSP or OS.
You're kidding yourself if you think EA or any other company who paid for exclusive licensing is going to let Sony of Microsoft allow transfer of roster files outside of said game.

An before someone says what can EA do to prevent Sony from allowing this, how about not make their sports games avaialble. Seemed like an excellent startegy with the Dreamcast and also in forcing MS to allow EA to run thier own auth. servers with the Xbox Live
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I get NCAA rosters with names through a Mac.

I bought a MaxDrive for about $30. It's a USB memory key which mounts on the desktop of both PCs and Macs. It comes with software which transfers files on the USB memory key to your memory card on the PS2, from the USB ports on the PS2.

I think they have some solution for Xbox as well.

I don't know if Sony does offer this file transfer capability, I don't think they'd be liable for whatever users passed between each other. If they were, so would AIM and all the other IM clients used today.

It's probably not P2P like bittorrents.

There's a rumor that Toys R Us are taking some very limited PS3 preorders along with Wii preorders this Sunday.
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wco81 wrote:I get NCAA rosters with names through a Mac.

I bought a MaxDrive for about $30. It's a USB memory key which mounts on the desktop of both PCs and Macs. It comes with software which transfers files on the USB memory key to your memory card on the PS2, from the USB ports on the PS2.

I think they have some solution for Xbox as well.
I know the XBox Action Replay doesn't work with Macs, not sure about any other options.

I think there's a difference between a system like AIM and a file-sharing system on dedicated game machines. Like Danimal said, the big developers probably aren't going to want free shared data to enhance games floating around in this day of "micro" transactions.

Not sure about the buzz surrounding the launch. Once the demo kiosks hit I think the buzz will be amplified a bit. Hard to get excited about empty cabinets at Target.
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Danimal wrote:You're kidding yourself if you think EA or any other company who paid for exclusive licensing is going to let Sony of Microsoft allow transfer of roster files outside of said game.
They "allow" it now throught peripherals like Action Replay and MaxDrive.

Just a question of how difficult they will make it for casual gamers to share files of this type.

If they let you download the files from websites or send them to each other, no problem.

Where I suspect they might try to block you is to prevent attachments downloaded from being loaded into games, by letting you download to a different partition of the HDD than where the game data is.
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wco81 wrote: There's a rumor that Toys R Us are taking some very limited PS3 preorders along with Wii preorders this Sunday.
TRU took PS3 preorders 6 months or so ago... right after E3.
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wco81 wrote:They "allow" it now throught peripherals like Action Replay and MaxDrive.
That is totally different. I'm not talking about AR, Max Drive or even the EA locker in current gen systems.

I'm talking about loading up NFL2K5, making a roster saving it to the hard drive. selecting a friend from the dashboard (or whatever the PS3 will have), selecting roster from the hard drive and sending it to someone else on your friends list. If the above scenario was going to happen it would have already. You could have been doing this on the Xbox for years if they put in the functionality.

Sorry I just don't see that ever happening for a number of reasons.
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It's not a rumor...I stopped at Toys R Us for the 3 for 2 deal and the lady said they're taking them at 11 am on Sunday. I thought about heading over, for a minute, but I just don't see myself heading over at 5 am just to be early enough in line to grab one.
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Brando70 wrote:One thing I'm kind of wondering: does it seem like there's not much buzz for the PS3 launch? Maybe I'm just not paying as much attention since I'm not getting one, but compared to the PS2 launch, it seems very quiet this close to the date.
With commercials this stupid, the fires of buzz aren't exactly being stoked:

http://littleblender.blogspot.com/2006/ ... umber.html

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Well if anyone was thinking about swinging by TRU for a PS3 preorder, you can forget about it unless you camped out.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthre ... e=22&pp=30

People camping out for a preorder...
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wco81 wrote:People camping out for a preorder...
On my way home around 8p, I passed by a TRU with about 10 people standing out in front of it. Crazy.

And in a complete non-surprise, it sounds like most stores are getting the $600 versions in about a 6:1 ratio to the $500 version. Figured Sony would push more of the premiums since the "cheap" version is really all most people would want or need once the HDMI was added.
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Dave wrote:
wco81 wrote:People camping out for a preorder...
On my way home around 8p, I passed by a TRU with about 10 people standing out in front of it. Crazy.

And in a complete non-surprise, it sounds like most stores are getting the $600 versions in about a 6:1 ratio to the $500 version. Figured Sony would push more of the premiums since the "cheap" version is really all most people would want or need once the HDMI was added.
I'm waiting to see if the supply shortage motivates retailers to sell the system in "bundles only". This would not surprise me in the least and I know some retailers such as CompUSA did this for their online orders, but in the brick and mortar you weren't forced into buying a bundle (at least on launch day)....
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They should have handled the preorders better. Like take names and do a drawing for the actual number of consoles or something, once the quantities became known.

The circus atmosphere of people camping out in front of your store must be good publicity but if it tells people not to bother coming to the stores, then what good is it for generating traffic and business?

Sooner or later, people are going to be mugged or there will be something else that happens which causes them to stop these camp outs.
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wco81 wrote:They should have handled the preorders better. Like take names and do a drawing for the actual number of consoles or something, once the quantities became known.

The circus atmosphere of people camping out in front of your store must be good publicity but if it tells people not to bother coming to the stores, then what good is it for generating traffic and business?

Sooner or later, people are going to be mugged or there will be something else that happens which causes them to stop these camp outs.
It's sort of a strange phenomenon... is there anything else people "camp out" for? At the theater for movies is the only thing I can think of, and that really doesn't happen anymore. Maybe Elmo? I guess when you combine obsessive video game nerds who have to have a console immediately with limited quantities, you get the weirdness of camping out. I never heard of anyone camping out for iPods (a similarly hot gadget item), but maybe that just means Apple meets demand.
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Having the supply to meet demand is just it.

My son wanted a Nano for Christmas last year and I had no problems getting him one. Walked right into Best Buy, asked for an Ipod Nano and away we went.

Try and do that with a PS3. Not gonna happen. Granted Nano's had been out earlier than November (I believe anyway) so I don't know if they were hard to get when they first launched.
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PRBoom wrote:Having the supply to meet demand is just it.

My son wanted a Nano for Christmas last year and I had no problems getting him one. Walked right into Best Buy, asked for an Ipod Nano and away we went.

Try and do that with a PS3. Not gonna happen. Granted Nano's had been out earlier than November (I believe anyway) so I don't know if they were hard to get when they first launched.
But do you honestly think that people would camp out for 16 hours overnight in the cold for an iPod Nano? I don't think there's a chance in hell. I think you have to factor in the fanbase as well.
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No, I don't think they would camp out for a Nano. But I do believe supply and demand is the cause of this strange phenomena.

It's happened since the days of the PS2 I guess. They started this whole craze. I don't recall people camping out for the DC or anything prior to that either. Maybe I just don't know as I never had a launch console prior to the 360.
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Apple dealt with shortages of the Mini in the first year, with people unable to get them for the Holidays. So you had eBay auctions with prices almost 100% over retail and peole played the online ordering game.

Apple improved the supply-chain for future products and usually didn't announce until they were ready to have product to ship. But iPods are a lot easier to manufacture than consoles with bleeding edge components like blue-laser diodes.

If Sony stayed with DVD and maybe a simpler processor than the Cell, they could have manufactured millions for launch.
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Sony takes yet another blow to the face. Even fewer PS3's available at launch in Japan.


http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4761
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LAking wrote:Sony takes yet another blow to the face. Even fewer PS3's available at launch in Japan.


http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4761
At this rate, the European launch is looking like 1st Quarter 2008....Man, what a botched up launch....
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This one's for you, WCO... PS3 Madden with Gang Tackling (at least I think you're the one who is always calling for it in EA's game) :wink:

http://www.ps3land.com/article-871.php
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Also from ps3land, Sony gives some info about what downloads will be available at launch and beyond...

http://www.ps3land.com/article-921.php
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