Soccer thread

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:25 am

Whomever that was doing the commentray yesterday on the Argentina game was fecking hilarious. It wasn't Bretos, some other guy doing it along.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:43 am

I missed the game, but it probably was Roger Valdivieso. He's good, but Bretos and Bozzo were better.

I think FSC has pushed Bozzo back to Fox Sports Espanol, and Bretos does very few Argentine games anymore. He'll probably do the Superclassico, and that's it.

Another reason why I think FSC is sliding downhill!

Take care,
PK

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:03 am

He was still very, very good.

GolTV has some great commentators too

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 10:41 am

P.S.: Superclassico is this Sunday on FSC. River-Boca, Boca-River!

Take care,
PK

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:04 pm

pk500 wrote:P.S.: Superclassico is this Sunday on FSC. River-Boca, Boca-River!

Take care,
PK

I prefer the tandem team of Bretos and Bozzo, man when was the last time these two worked together? PK, your gallinas are going down one more time, R. Lavolpe (former Mexican coach) is the new coach and we are still in the lead with a game in hand. Vamos Boca!

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:01 pm

Isn't "Vamos Boca" slang in Buenos Aires for "F*ck Boca?"

Take care,
PK

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:17 pm

We'll see PK, there's Orteguita all worried this weekend with their tie while F. Gago (future Real Madrid acquisition) shows Boca's heart. It'll be a Superclasico allright, with a win River is within a point of Boca, but if they lose, start kissing the Apertura goodbye.

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 9:53 am

2 Items of note this morning.

1. UEFA Cup Group stages drawn. Blackburn and Newcastle have tough groups

2. The USSF will receive a formal invitiation to Copa America within 24 hours. If the US accepts the invite, they will replace Costa Rica.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:41 am

It doesn't matter, Squid. Newcastle isn't going to win anything with only two fit strikers and a back four that makes Sunday League defending look solid.

Sad, but true.

Take care,
PK

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:43 pm

One of the stars for the National French team in 98 retires: F. Barthez.
Never a dull moment watching him play, either he had the most amazing save, or the most ridicoulus blunder.

Naples39 · Post by **Naples39** » Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:22 pm

10spro wrote:One of the stars for the National French team in 98 retires: F. Barthez.
Never a dull moment watching him play, either he had the most amazing save, or the most ridicoulus blunder.

I'll always remember the one where he was caught off his line, and in his desperate scramble to get back on a lob shot, the shot went off the crossbar, off his face, and in. That is tough to top....

dougb · Post by **dougb** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:20 pm

SPOILERS*****

SPOILERS***

Scotland beat France 1-0. I'd love to be with the Tartan Army tonight - the amount of whiskey consumed will be absolutely astounding (though it would probably be the same if they'd lost to France)

And England seem to be back to rubbish again as they draw 0-0 at home to Macedonia. Who'd have thought that England would struggle while Scotland is flying high. If it was a movie it'd have to be a Mel Gibson movie.

Best wishes,

Doug

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:48 pm

dougb wrote:If it was a movie it'd have to be a Mel Gibson movie.

Did Israel win? No way that would happen in a Mel Gibson movie.

Take care,
PK

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Sun Oct 08, 2006 5:26 pm

D. Passarella had a great plan for his team. G. Higuain was the difference and I have a whole week to cry about this one. River 3-1.

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:43 am

Ok, the announcer for the River-Boca game was horrible. I'm in that camp now. It was as if Palermo was his love child or something. Fun game to watch, still hate that flopping though!

dougb · Post by **dougb** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 10:04 am

pk500 wrote:
dougb wrote:If it was a movie it'd have to be a Mel Gibson movie.
Did Israel win? No way that would happen in a Mel Gibson movie.

Take care,
PK

ROFLMAO!

Hell, after I heard the result I checked my End Times schedule - and with North Korea detonating a nuke I'm getting mighty nervous. Heard that it had started to snow in hell as well...

Best wishes,

Doug

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 11:57 am

fsquid wrote:Ok, the announcer for the River-Boca game was horrible. I'm in that camp now. It was as if Palermo was his love child or something. Fun game to watch, still hate that flopping though!

Yeah, he's the same guy that has been calling all the games in the Argentinian league (maybe PK knows his name) but I do miss Bretos. Another thing that bothered me yesterday other than the loss

is his constant calling for M. Gallardo who was on the bench. The only thing he got going is the GOOOOOL! It was a good Superclasico to watch, especially if you're a River fan.

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:10 pm

10spro wrote:
fsquid wrote:Ok, the announcer for the River-Boca game was horrible. I'm in that camp now. It was as if Palermo was his love child or something. Fun game to watch, still hate that flopping though!

Yeah, he's the same guy that has been calling all the games in the Argentinian league (maybe PK knows his name) but I do miss Bretos. Another thing that bothered me yesterday other than the loss is his constant calling for M. Gallardo who was on the bench. The only thing he got going is the GOOOOOL! It was a good Superclasico to watch, especially if you're a River fan.

It was ok to watch. I think the casual fan would have turned it off after 5 guys were "injured" in the first 10 minutes. Luckily, I fast forwarded through that on my TIVO!

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:03 am

Ugh, things are not looking sharp for England, a tie last week with Macedonia and a 2-0 loss to Croatia. Of course Croatia is no slouch but Robinson can't mishit a ball like that. Whether McClaren wants him or not, I think Beckham would be good for the team.

davet010 · Post by **davet010** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:24 am

10spro wrote:Ugh, things are not looking sharp for England, a tie last week with Macedonia and a 2-0 loss to Croatia. Of course Croatia is no slouch but Robinson can't mishit a ball like that. Whether McClaren wants him or not, I think Beckham would be good for the team.

The 'renaissance' of the 3-5-2 formation can be traced back to that slimy buffoon Venables, whose ill-defined position in the hierachy allows him to almost escape censure. It would appear obvious to anyone over 6 that changing formations in mid-campaign without testing it in a friendly, and moreover changing it to one that none of the players use in domestic football, would not be a precursor to good things.

Now that England have dropped as many points in 4 qualifying games under Mclaren as they did in 3 full qualifying campaigns under Sven, maybe the more sober journalists will be rethinking their tack of 'blame the Swede for everything that ever went wrong', forgetting as they do that McLaren was no 2 for most of it.

Mmm, and I bet the Drunken Scot feels good about paying £18m for Michael Carrick now. Let's go through the 'holding midfielder' job description again....

Tackle and break up attacks...err, no
Pass a ball to teammate....no
Retain possession and utilise effectively....mmm, nope

It can't be often that someone costs that much and then is described in the press as the 'poor man's Owen Hargreaves'.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:53 am

10spro wrote:
fsquid wrote:Ok, the announcer for the River-Boca game was horrible. I'm in that camp now. It was as if Palermo was his love child or something. Fun game to watch, still hate that flopping though!

Yeah, he's the same guy that has been calling all the games in the Argentinian league (maybe PK knows his name) but I do miss Bretos. Another thing that bothered me yesterday other than the loss is his constant calling for M. Gallardo who was on the bench. The only thing he got going is the GOOOOOL! It was a good Superclasico to watch, especially if you're a River fan.

Yes, the announcer is Roger Valdivieso, who has taken over for Bretos in calling FSC's Argentine coverage. Valdivieso isn't bad -- better than the horrible Christian Miles -- but he's no Max.

Roger does have a fetish for the older players, such as Gallardo and Barros Schelotto.

Great win for River. They didn't have a ton of chances, but they finished. Great action in the last 10 minutes of the first half and for a decent chunk of the second.

Gago is a hell of a player for Boca, though. He'll look damn good in La Liga very soon.

RIVER!

Take care,
PK

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 1:33 pm

davet010 wrote:
10spro wrote:Ugh, things are not looking sharp for England, a tie last week with Macedonia and a 2-0 loss to Croatia. Of course Croatia is no slouch but Robinson can't mishit a ball like that. Whether McClaren wants him or not, I think Beckham would be good for the team.
The 'renaissance' of the 3-5-2 formation can be traced back to that slimy buffoon Venables, whose ill-defined position in the hierachy allows him to almost escape censure. It would appear obvious to anyone over 6 that changing formations in mid-campaign without testing it in a friendly, and moreover changing it to one that none of the players use in domestic football, would not be a precursor to good things.

Now that England have dropped as many points in 4 qualifying games under Mclaren as they did in 3 full qualifying campaigns under Sven, maybe the more sober journalists will be rethinking their tack of 'blame the Swede for everything that ever went wrong', forgetting as they do that McLaren was no 2 for most of it.

Mmm, and I bet the Drunken Scot feels good about paying £18m for Michael Carrick now. Let's go through the 'holding midfielder' job description again....

Tackle and break up attacks...err, no
Pass a ball to teammate....no
Retain possession and utilise effectively....mmm, nope

It can't be often that someone costs that much and then is described in the press as the 'poor man's Owen Hargreaves'.

Germany keeps rolling though.

davet010 · Post by **davet010** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:29 pm

Unless the penalties that their u-21s are going to get collared with are widened, of course.

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:42 pm

davet010 wrote:Unless the penalties that their u-21s are going to get collared with are widened, of course.

The inquiry will be much to do about nothing I'm sure. Germany had a collored on the field too, so I'm doubting that allegations.

davet010 · Post by **davet010** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:46 pm

not if you'd seen the footage, you wouldn't. And there is plenty of previous from this season.