OT: NBA 2005-2006 Season Discussion

TRI · Post by **TRI** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:41 pm

Miami was lucky to win game 3 because not many teams win when they have 20 turnovers.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:01 am

Wow...that was an ass whoopin'. Nothing lucky about that one. Nice game Dirk.

SoMisss2000 · Post by **SoMisss2000** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:15 am

I've thrown up in my mouth. Series on.

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:28 am

A few questions and observations.

Haslem is a liability on offense due to his lack of ability to knock down a 15ft open jumper.

Shaq played better tonight, I think it was mainly do to Dallas not double and tripple teaming him as quickly.

Wade is phenomenal.

And well my question is does anyone else think Dallas got all the charge/block calls in the 3rd and the first half of the 4th?

sfz_T-car · Post by **sfz_T-car** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:01 am

bdunn13 wrote:
And well my question is does anyone else think Dallas got all the charge/block calls in the 3rd and the first half of the 4th?

Two word answer: Dick Bavetta

SoMisss2000 · Post by **SoMisss2000** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:20 am

sfz_T-car wrote:
bdunn13 wrote:
And well my question is does anyone else think Dallas got all the charge/block calls in the 3rd and the first half of the 4th?
Two word answer: Dick Bavetta

I don't understand why the hell the NBA changes officiating crews every game for the finals. Why not get your #1 crew, your best rated crew, and let them handle the finals. Get the guys that graded out the best in the regular season and the playoffs and those are your guys. No, because that would be too right. Stern doesn't like consistency. Gotta keep the players on their toes.

sfz_T-car · Post by **sfz_T-car** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:42 pm

Nah, the NBA has too much ref consistency. For the finals, they should suit up three sets of officials and allow the teams to request one ref be swapped out at each non-TV timeout.

This would bring an extra element of strategy to the games and draw attention to the influence that different officials have on the result. The refs should be the stars of the game. Violet Palmer and Joey Crawford need their own signature lines of black sneakers.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:20 pm

NBA officials can't even provide consistency within the same game, never mind game to game.

Besides, how else are they going to make sure there are at least 6 games?

Last night, the Heat got to run through jump shooters and get away with a lot of other contact, which is how they held Mavs to 34% shooting.

SoMisss2000 · Post by **SoMisss2000** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:31 pm

NBA officials can't even provide consistency within the same game, never mind game to game.

This is THE one thing I noticed about Bavetta throughout these playoffs. He calls touch fouls early and gets players in foul trouble, yet later on in the game, he doesn't make those same calls.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 11:11 pm

What a travesty this game is, particularly the way they're officiating the game in the third period.

They want to make sure Shaq stays in the whole game, so at least two non-calls against him.

Meanwhile, keeping putting Wade on the line for nothing. He punches a guy getting through a screen and the Mav who was trying to keep up with him gets called.

No wonder Johnson took the technical, the way they're allowing all kinds of contact on the Mavs end.

The FT attempts are going to be ridiculous. They are now and maybe Dallas gets some makeup calls in the end so it doesn't look so lopsided.

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:35 am

If I were the Mav's I'd be pissed. How can they call a foul for wade with 1.9 left?

Great games by Wade and Dirk, thought Dirk won them the Championship there with that last shot.

But damn, DWADE =MJ. Well maybe not, but great game at the end there.

Too bad the game had to end the way it did. Dumbass timeout by the Mavs and that late foul call on wade.

Calls were iffy both ways so I guess it evens out.

Still think Dallas will win this all by winning the next 2 at home.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:40 am

How can they not?

They were putting him on the line every chance they got.

This is the most transparent one-sided job by the NBA since a few years ago when they gave the Lakers 32 FTAs in the fourth quarter in one playoffs.

If the Mavs had won 5 vs. 8, NBA would have suspended Terry, Howard a couple of others for Game 6.

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:43 am

Howard = Webber

Payton = Horry

Wade = Jordan

Kazuya · Post by **Kazuya** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:52 am

While the Wade free throw parade is annoying, it's nowhere near as annoying as Duncan's. I at least have the general feeling that Wade is earning his free throws... Duncan simply put his head down and plowed to the hoop, making no moves at all. It was a joke. Wade is doing allright, to me.

Avery lost this game for me... his refusal to do anything to try to stop Wade was completely inexcusable. He got happy because Wade got off to a slow start and mistakenly thought he had something to do with it. Single covering Wade with Adrian Griffin or Devin Harris, and at least not taking away his right hand... just horrible. Oh well, I still like the Mavs chances. I haven't seen anything to indicate that the Heat can come in to Dallas and win.

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:58 am

They're talking about that timeout on espn and I agree with them. Johnson should have called someone over instead of signaling timeout to not call a timeout to the whole team. That leaves it up for one of the players on the court to misinterpret.

Also, was it Howard that missed those 2 free throws in ot?

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:03 am

Inuyasha wrote:They're talking about that timeout on espn and I agree with them. Johnson should have called someone over instead of signaling timeout to not call a timeout to the whole team. That leaves it up for one of the players on the court to misinterpret.

Also, was it Howard that missed those 2 free throws in ot?

Timeout was the least of their problems. That TO with 1.9 seconds means nothing compared to the FT disparity.

Johnson was more pissed about the non-calls on the other end on a couple of layup attempts while Wade couldn't be touched at all without a foul being called.

Yeah Howard missed those FTs. But it still took a very generous call for Wade to "win" this game.

SoMisss2000 · Post by **SoMisss2000** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:34 am

I'll ask this over here. Did yall see the referees carrying Wade off on their shoulders after the game.

He's been annointed the next golden child of the NBA. The next Jordan. Can't look at him, breathe on him, touch him, nothing.

I'll hate to see the day LeBron makes it to the finals.

SoMisss2000 · Post by **SoMisss2000** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:36 am

Calls were iffy both ways so I guess it evens out.

doesn't even out when Miami shoots twice as many freethrows.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:48 am

Wow...Mavs fans are almost as whiney as Dirk himself. What a f***in' crybaby...throwing and destroying sh*t on his way off the court. Class act.

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:49 am

SoMisss2000 wrote:
Calls were iffy both ways so I guess it evens out.
doesn't even out when Miami shoots twice as many freethrows.

You can bet in Game 6 the Mavs will get the majority of FT's.

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:51 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:Wow...Mavs fans are almost as whiney as Dirk himself. What a f***in' crybaby...throwing and destroying sh*t on his way off the court. Class act.

I thought Avery's post game conf was really tacky. Asking the writer about his opinion and turning the question around was lame.

Maybe with head coaching experience, Avery can learn how to whine the correct way, like the Zen Master does. Phil's whining is so masterful, some writers even claim it to be gamesmanship. You can call it anything, but you know that after a loss, Phil's gamesmanship gets his team calls the next game.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:53 am

I agree...I'm not impressed with the Mavs from a sportsmanship point of view, that's for damn sure. Hellova basketball team, but a bunch of whiney sore losers. If anyone should be complaining, it's Stackhouse...he didn't deserve the suspension...but hey. If one of their guys can hit a pair of free throws in the closing moments (Dirk 1 of 2, Damp 1 of 2, Howard 0-2), we aren't having this discussion.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:29 am

Inuyasha wrote:
SoMisss2000 wrote:
Calls were iffy both ways so I guess it evens out.
doesn't even out when Miami shoots twice as many freethrows.
You can bet in Game 6 the Mavs will get the majority of FT's.

And if that happens, where one team gets 50 FTAs, it would be just as much bullshit as game 5 was.

Feanor · Post by **Feanor** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:47 am

How many of those FTs were because of the hack-a-Shaq?

SoMisss2000 · Post by **SoMisss2000** » Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:31 am

Inuyasha wrote:
dbdynsty25 wrote:Wow...Mavs fans are almost as whiney as Dirk himself. What a f***in' crybaby...throwing and destroying sh*t on his way off the court. Class act.
I thought Avery's post game conf was really tacky. Asking the writer about his opinion and turning the question around was lame.

Maybe with head coaching experience, Avery can learn how to whine the correct way, like the Zen Master does. Phil's whining is so masterful, some writers even claim it to be gamesmanship. You can call it anything, but you know that after a loss, Phil's gamesmanship gets his team calls the next game.

Well, Dirk was frustrated. He also didn't want to say that it was a phantom call. That's why he put it on the reporter.

Maybe with head coaching experience, Avery can learn how to whine the correct way, like the Zen Master does. Phil's whining is so masterful, some writers even claim it to be gamesmanship. You can call it anything, but you know that after a loss, Phil's gamesmanship gets his team calls the next game.

well if Avery's owner will ever shut up, it may help Avery out in working the refs.