Wow, I didnt think it was possible but this season has been better than ever. I still cant believe so few watch this show. Its probably my alltime favorite.
Anyone else watching?
anyone watching The Shield? Warning Shield/Sopranos Spoilers
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anyone watching The Shield? Warning Shield/Sopranos Spoilers
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Re: OT: anyone watching The Shield?
The show had a lot of buzz after the first season after Chiklis won the Emmy but it never seemed to re-capture that same mass media buzz after.eman wrote:I still cant believe so few watch this show.
Unfortunate since it's been consistently one of the best written shows on television the entire time. Vic Mackay will go down as one of the all-time great TV characters no matter what.
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I started watching it the first season and have not stopped since. I also have not lost any interest in the show. They keep changing the show every season to make keep it as interesting as it was the previous year. Forrest Whitaker is doinga great job although I don't like his character. Vic is a hero although he is a bad cop that does good things... very odd.
I bet they get out of the current situation, however right now I have no clue how.
I bet they get out of the current situation, however right now I have no clue how.
I don't quite agree with the hero part but I think it's a testamemt to the show's writing that they always show everbody in a 3-Dimensional light. There isn't a character in the show where you haven't seen their best and their worst which is very compelling. It's quite rare when a show can make every character have a compelling storyline and The Shield does it easily year after year.bdunn13 wrote:Vic is a hero although he is a bad cop that does good things... very odd.
I bet they get out of the current situation, however right now I have no clue how.
I think Vic will get out of the current situation, but I think Cavanaugh will end up nailing somebody on the strike team. I think it would be justice and slightly atone for all the wrongs they've done all the years including killing that cop in the first season.
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wco81 wrote:Like this show but it pushes the envelope for the sake of pushing the envelope.
There's a big shock factor with some of the lines they use and some of the horrific things that go on. Like burning a guy's face on a stove.
Hmmmm. I don't catch your point. The show is about cops who cross the line and cops who don't so the subject matter is applicable. In addition it's TV not reality so it's always going to be a step removed anyway. It's entertainment. What TV show out there that you watch is 100% not about dramatization outside of maybe the The Wire?
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I mean they push standards of what's allowed on non-premium cable.
So you see bare asses and the language is colorful.
For instance, some kid under 15 is accused of raping a much younger girl.
Turns out he was abused by pedophiles and his explanation is something like, "Why can't I bust a nut."
I couldn't believe it when I heard that line.
Shawn Ryan sneaks in lines like that. Totally politically incorrect and complete street.
Earlier this season, the strike team drive out this guy to the desert and hands him to a Mexican cop, whom they pay off to lose this guy in the Mexican prison system. Hope Southern Cal cops aren't pulling things like this.
They do go for a gritty look. They don't give the actors the most flattering makeup jobs.
Speaking of gritty, how about the plot last year about Azeveda caught on a camera phone?
I think a better word than "shock" would be "schlock." Still, it's very compelling to watch with some really original story lines, like how many movies tackle the Armenian mob and now the Russian mob in LA?
So you see bare asses and the language is colorful.
For instance, some kid under 15 is accused of raping a much younger girl.
Turns out he was abused by pedophiles and his explanation is something like, "Why can't I bust a nut."
I couldn't believe it when I heard that line.
Shawn Ryan sneaks in lines like that. Totally politically incorrect and complete street.
Earlier this season, the strike team drive out this guy to the desert and hands him to a Mexican cop, whom they pay off to lose this guy in the Mexican prison system. Hope Southern Cal cops aren't pulling things like this.
They do go for a gritty look. They don't give the actors the most flattering makeup jobs.
Speaking of gritty, how about the plot last year about Azeveda caught on a camera phone?
I think a better word than "shock" would be "schlock." Still, it's very compelling to watch with some really original story lines, like how many movies tackle the Armenian mob and now the Russian mob in LA?
Nearly everything in your post makes me feel like the show is actually more like real life than the normal sanitized everybody is a saint stuff I see on every other show. Those are the shows that depict a false reality by comparison to me. I could never understand the appeal of a show like Friends for example which always struck me as a wish fulfillment fantasy cartoon. (Nothing per se wrong with those. Everybody needs their escapists fantasy)
In addition the show is thematically based on the LAPD ramparts division who did a lot of shady stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAPD_Rampart_Division
We aren't exactly dealing with the yacht club here. Is it heightened? Of course. But I read about things as bad everyday on the newspaper or on the local news. Most people just don't base a show around it.
In addition the show is thematically based on the LAPD ramparts division who did a lot of shady stuff.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAPD_Rampart_Division
We aren't exactly dealing with the yacht club here. Is it heightened? Of course. But I read about things as bad everyday on the newspaper or on the local news. Most people just don't base a show around it.
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Tonight I watched the first two episodes again.
It was very interesting to look back and see how everything started. From the get-go Crowley was a snake. I dont agree with him getting killed but I somehow root for Mackey. In fact I think most people look at him as a hero of sorts. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that the alternative to rooting for Mackey is that you'd have to root for dirty politians and drug dealers??? Pick the lesser of two evils?
bdunn, Tavon didnt die. When he came out of his comma Vick made him believe that he hurt Shane's wife (or something to that effect). He was written off the show.
I keep wondering if the show will go on beyond this season. Somehow it gets better every year.
It was very interesting to look back and see how everything started. From the get-go Crowley was a snake. I dont agree with him getting killed but I somehow root for Mackey. In fact I think most people look at him as a hero of sorts. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact that the alternative to rooting for Mackey is that you'd have to root for dirty politians and drug dealers??? Pick the lesser of two evils?
bdunn, Tavon didnt die. When he came out of his comma Vick made him believe that he hurt Shane's wife (or something to that effect). He was written off the show.
I keep wondering if the show will go on beyond this season. Somehow it gets better every year.
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I actually think the one two weeks ago was the best. When Cavanaugh came out of the interrogation room and arrested Lem, it was the most tension I've ever seen portrayed in TV show.reeche wrote:That last episode might have been one of the best one hours of drama I've ever seen on any TV show. I can't be the only one who saw that episode.
P.S. I just watched the first three episodes of the show last night, and I can't believe I didn't watch this show back then.
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I agree. The show two weeks ago was spectacular IMO.Metman24 wrote:I actually think the one two weeks ago was the best. When Cavanaugh came out of the interrogation room and arrested Lem, it was the most tension I've ever seen portrayed in TV show.reeche wrote:That last episode might have been one of the best one hours of drama I've ever seen on any TV show. I can't be the only one who saw that episode.
P.S. I just watched the first three episodes of the show last night, and I can't believe I didn't watch this show back then.
I cant wait for the season finale.
Do people find themselves rooting for Vic and company?
Shield may have one more season, just like the Sopranos.
Vic Mackey and Tony Soprano are both complicated antiheroes. No question both have committed anti-social acts. Yet they both have a lot of redeeming characteristics, like wanting to protect their families, providing the best that they can.
And they're both loyal to a fault, with Vic literally fighting for the life of Lem while Tony will kill his cousin Tony Blundetto rather than hand him to a rival mob figure who wants to torture him.
Ultimately, Vic thinks he's doing good, keeping a lid on gang violence (by making deals with gangs), while racking up high arrest numbers as cover for his unconventional (illegal) methods.
Tony though is out for himself and his family only. He will drive an underling to suicide but has cut Christopher so many breaks. But that is the life he chose a long time ago and part of the problem is that he's sick or at least ill-suited to be a gangster (the panic attacks). He's constantly in denial, the latest one being how his mother and uncle conspired against him and he tried to smother her with a pillow.
It going to be both a relief and a heartbreak when these characters end their runs.
Shield may have one more season, just like the Sopranos.
Vic Mackey and Tony Soprano are both complicated antiheroes. No question both have committed anti-social acts. Yet they both have a lot of redeeming characteristics, like wanting to protect their families, providing the best that they can.
And they're both loyal to a fault, with Vic literally fighting for the life of Lem while Tony will kill his cousin Tony Blundetto rather than hand him to a rival mob figure who wants to torture him.
Ultimately, Vic thinks he's doing good, keeping a lid on gang violence (by making deals with gangs), while racking up high arrest numbers as cover for his unconventional (illegal) methods.
Tony though is out for himself and his family only. He will drive an underling to suicide but has cut Christopher so many breaks. But that is the life he chose a long time ago and part of the problem is that he's sick or at least ill-suited to be a gangster (the panic attacks). He's constantly in denial, the latest one being how his mother and uncle conspired against him and he tried to smother her with a pillow.
It going to be both a relief and a heartbreak when these characters end their runs.
Some people do. I think your supposed to be mixed and conflicted on him but I often see people go overboard in sort of supporting the strike team and any actions they've done. Same goes with the Sopranos or Godfather or any show that has a main focus on a character that isn't exactly an ideal role model.wco81 wrote:Do people find themselves rooting for Vic and company?
But this has always been the case with TV shows and entertainment which is why Anti-heroes exist to a degree. Some people missed the point in Archie Bunker too and actually supported that character. (Although in the later years it was easier to do when they defanged the show)
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I thought the food was going to have poison in it.
and yes I do find myself rooting for them.
NOTE:
The thread title had SPOILER in it but its a Shield thread..... if you are going to post spoilers on another show please say so in caps at the top of your post. This thread contained Sopranos spoilers which I also watch, but on DVD and delayed.
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and yes I do find myself rooting for them.
NOTE:
The thread title had SPOILER in it but its a Shield thread..... if you are going to post spoilers on another show please say so in caps at the top of your post. This thread contained Sopranos spoilers which I also watch, but on DVD and delayed.
Thx,
BD
EDIT:
There is not even SPOILER in the title