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I am loving MVP 06 and played it for a week with no problems and twice in the past two days have had people crying because I wasn't throwing strikes on every pitch? I know I'm kinda new to playing baseball in the online environment, but is there some unwritten rule that you always have to throw strikes?

I've had two people quit games, which I figure is hurting them because of the DNF%. And obviously most people have found a way to beat me because my current record is 3-20 (but I've loved every game :D )

I need a concensus... Am I wrong for working the batter or should I just serve up batting practice and take more 13-1 losses like I already have?
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CityWolves wrote:Am I wrong for working the batter or should I just serve up batting practice and take more 13-1 losses like I already have?
Absolutely not. F*ck 'em if they want to play HR Derby instead of baseball. It isn't your fault that they swing at everything.
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CityWolves wrote:I am loving MVP 06 and played it for a week with no problems and twice in the past two days have had people crying because I wasn't throwing strikes on every pitch? I know I'm kinda new to playing baseball in the online environment, but is there some unwritten rule that you always have to throw strikes?

I've had two people quit games, which I figure is hurting them because of the DNF%. And obviously most people have found a way to beat me because my current record is 3-20 (but I've loved every game :D )

I need a concensus... Am I wrong for working the batter or should I just serve up batting practice and take more 13-1 losses like I already have?
I used to play a lot of MVP 05 online and this was always an issue then. If people want you to throw strikes, they should stop swinging at balls.
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Unfortunately there's a large group of online players that will b*tch and moan since they don't have patience at the plate. My advice to you would be to find players (such as people from this website or another sports related forum) that like to play the game the way it was meant to be played and stick with them or tell randoms that you aren't going to throw all strikes in the lobby and give them the chance to quit before the game starts.
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How does the game play online? Is there lag that would make it very difficult to discern a ball from a strike? I know that's been a problem with online baseball in the past. I've never played MVP online, but in the past I've played other games that turned into 1-0 strikeout fests.

If the game is "fair" and players are just being impatient then I totally agree. If you have to swing so early that laying off balls is almost impossible then I can see the other side as well.
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There is a good bit of lag. The timing online to offline is quite different.
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That has been an issue since 2003 for me, If the person your playing that will swing at anything then that is their problem. thats the idea of baseball, make the batter chase and if they are not swinging at all the balls your throwing you throw a strike and try to nail a corner, they will think it's another ball and bam.. caught looking K. But hen again your probably playing a 12 year old so you won't always find SIM players.
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Absolutely ludicrous in my book. Of course you shouldn't give in and just throw strikes. Those idiots can play the mini-game if that's what they want. The game of baseball is not complicated. There is no reason, no reason at all, that you should ever throw a strike unless you have to. That's just common sense. If they want to give you 27 outs in the form of Ks, then so be it. Just take your headset off if they whine and cry, that's what I would do.

As to the lag, I've only played a couple online games, but it seems to me it is quite a bit better than it was in last years' version, though it is still there. There is an adjustment going from offline to online, but IMO the online lag doesn't ruin the game by any means.
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This is the main reason walks have been historically so hard to get in baseball games....your average gamer DOES NOT want them, they want to tee off on everything.

Note the gameplay option in MVP :Only throw strikes.

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OK, I'm gathering that I'm in the majority in this debate... that's good.

As for the lag, I recognize the difference between playing online and offline but I really don't think it makes it anymore unfair. You have to more or less anticipate where the ball is going to be rather than read the ball out of the pitcher's hand.

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I don't own this game or even own a functioning Xbox, but asking an opponent to throw nothing but strikes in an online baseball game is as moronic as these scenarios:

Ghost Recon: "Excuse me, can you stand still so I can shoot you at will?"

TOCA 2: "Can you pull over after the start so I can win?"

NHL 2K6: "Can you pull the goalie for the rest of the game halfway through the first period?"

You get my drift. Anyone who moans that you're throwing balls should stick to Dead or Alive 4 or shut the f*ck up and play baseball.

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pk500 wrote:Anyone who moans that you're throwing balls should stick to Dead or Alive 4 or shut the f*ck up and play baseball.

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You know, I've run into far less idiots playing DOA4 online than I have in most online sports games or shooters.

Probably because there is less ability to cheese or do stupid things like request only strikes.

Anyway, even if you do run into a jerk on Doa4, all you have to do is beat him once or twice and he leaves the room. :)

Back on subject, yes, throw those mofos nothing but bouncers...
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Leebo33 wrote:How does the game play online? Is there lag that would make it very difficult to discern a ball from a strike? I know that's been a problem with online baseball in the past. I've never played MVP online, but in the past I've played other games that turned into 1-0 strikeout fests.
If the lag in 06 is anything like it was for 05 then, IMO, it had no effect whatsoever on hitting. I think I hit .268 with in my online career with the Mets. The lag really affected the pitching meter, which I actually liked cause it made it tougher to pinpoint your pitches. But hitting online and offline felt the same to me. My only real problem hitting online was that I could never lay off that high fastball with 2 strikes.

MVP was my favorite online sports game last year other than TOCA 2.
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I've been playing a lot of 05 and 06 with Jason online. Yes there is a lag on the meter and yes it takes an adjustment period compared to offline timing, but it is as easy to discern balls and strikes online as offline. If they want a game of all strikes then they should check the box that says "throw strikes only". If that isn't available in ranked games then it should be brought up in the team selection screen. After I got that complaint once I always ask randoms now if they want to play throw strikes only. If they do I politely back out of the game.
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ScoopBrady wrote:Unfortunately there's a large group of online players that will b*tch and moan since they don't have patience at the plate. My advice to you would be to find players (such as people from this website or another sports related forum) that like to play the game the way it was meant to be played and stick with them or tell randoms that you aren't going to throw all strikes in the lobby and give them the chance to quit before the game starts.

I'm with Scoop on this one, try to stick with playing people from here or OS. You will tend to get more of the "Sim gamer" type, rather than the Blitz go for it on 4th every time / Home run derby every at bat type of guy.
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