NHL exclusivety too?

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 2:33 pm

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_i ... story=7590

I don't know anything about this site but I found a link to this story on the IGN boards. Can you imagine if 2k couldn't make any more hockey titles?

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:49 pm

ScoopBrady wrote:http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_i ... story=7590

I don't know anything about this site but I found a link to this story on the IGN boards. Can you imagine if 2k couldn't make any more hockey titles?

No. If 2K stopped making hockey titles, there would be no point in buying a hockey game. EA's hockey games -- with the exception of NHL 2004 -- are that bad.

Take care,
PK

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 3:55 pm

It sounds as if the NHL/NHLPA are going about this the right way. I hope the days of new exclusive license agreements are over. They are simply NOT good for end users.

backbreaker · Post by **backbreaker** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:10 pm

http://eahockey.com/news/details.php?id=0067

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 5:41 pm

Why on earth would anyone go after an exclsuive hockey license, don't hockey games traditonally sell like s***?

Whats next the license for the PBA, or World Tour of Poker?

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:21 pm

Danimal wrote:Why on earth would anyone go after an exclsuive hockey license, don't hockey games traditonally sell like s***?

Whats next the license for the PBA, or World Tour of Poker?

Not in Canada, and not in parts of Europe.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Wed Dec 21, 2005 9:59 pm

10spro wrote:
Danimal wrote:Why on earth would anyone go after an exclsuive hockey license, don't hockey games traditonally sell like s***?

Whats next the license for the PBA, or World Tour of Poker?

Not in Canada, and not in parts of Europe.

Are NPD numbers from world wide sales or just in the US? I aks because this is what I was refering to, last time BD posted info, Hockey was laggin way behind in sales. I think combined from the two games, on all platforms the sales were less then 500k, paying 45 million for exclusive rights for what is still my question.

Now if in Cananda they sell 2 million copies a year, then that is another thing altogether.

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:28 am

These were the numbers in Canada only, when both NHL games came out back in Sept 05 per platform based on revenue.

PS2 NHL 06 $1.7M / 56,456
XBX NHL 06 $0.9M / 31,113
GCN NHL 06 $0.2M / 6,478

XBX NHL 2K6 - $0.7M / 34,560
PS2 NHL 2K6 - $0.5M / 26,429

Total Share in Sales, September 2005:

1 Electronic Arts 29.4%
2 Nintendo of America 11.7%
3 Activision 9.2%
4 THQ (Corp) 6.4%
5 Ubisoft 5.4%
6 Sony (Corp) 4.7%
7 Take 2 Interactive (Corp) 4.0%
8 Vivendi Universal (Corp) 3.3%
9 Namco 2.8%
10 Konami Digital Ent. 2.5%

YouKNOWitstrue · Post by **YouKNOWitstrue** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 5:59 am

Totally agree....exclusive licensing will kill hockey games. Only 2k shhould be doing hockey in the first place.

kicko · Post by **kicko** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:59 am

Well i am glad that is not going the same way the whole Madden deal went down. The funny thing is i had also just bought NHL06 real cheap on ebay, i wanted a change of pace from 2k. I find if you tone the whole arcade aspect down and with some mods it plays a pretty decent game, but not nearly as nice as 2k6. Ea always has to have some parts of the game arcadish for the younger crowd and 2k does not, they make sports like sports should be.

rubba19 · Post by **rubba19** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:01 am

YouKNOWitstrue wrote:Totally agree....exclusive licensing will kill hockey games. Only 2k shhould be doing hockey in the first place.

No. This would be bad too. Then we would get rehashes of NHL 2K4 and have to live with all of Kush's guaranteed bugs. Competition is good, plus 2k doesn't do PC hockey, which is what I usually play.

GTHobbes · Post by **GTHobbes** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:18 pm

Thank God that the NHL sees the light on this one.

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:54 pm

GTHobbes wrote:Thank God that the NHL sees the light on this one.

Agreed.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:56 pm

GTHobbes wrote:Thank God that the NHL sees the light on this one.

It was quite refreshing to read in one of the reports that the NHL is leery of exclusivity because EA's hockey games have been tepidly received by gamers.

Nice to know that money doesn't do all of the talking and that quality might mean something.

Take care,
PK

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:38 pm

pk500 wrote:
GTHobbes wrote:Thank God that the NHL sees the light on this one.
It was quite refreshing to read in one of the reports that the NHL is leery of exclusivity because EA's hockey games have been tepidly received by gamers.

Nice to know that money doesn't do all of the talking and that quality might mean something.

Take care,
PK

While I agree with your assessment of EA's recent NHL products, do not think for a minute that they are overlooking the fact that they likely make more money from EA than they do from 2K Sports.....

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 1:50 pm

Tim:

No question. Money eventually will speak loudest, but it's nice to see that there's at least a pause from a sanctioning body to consider quality for a few minutes.

I just get very touchy about EA exclusivity with hockey since it's my favorite team sport, in real life and videogame form, and only 2K/Sega has historically provided the kind of realism I want in a game.

When EA inevitably gets the license, hopefully guys like Flying Finn and NickChew can keep NHL 2K6 alive for a year or two with their editor and rosters, respectively, like they have with NFL 2K5.

Take care,
PK

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:04 pm

pk500 wrote:Tim:

No question. Money eventually will speak loudest, but it's nice to see that there's at least a pause from a sanctioning body to consider quality for a few minutes.

Agreed.

pk500 wrote:I just get very touchy about EA exclusivity with hockey since it's my favorite team sport, in real life and videogame form, and only 2K/Sega has historically provided the kind of realism I want in a game.

Also agree. I wish EA would get back to their hockey roots from the early 90's and stop putting "EA Big-style" arcade nonsense into their Sports titles. Believe me, every chance I get, I convey that message....

pk500 wrote:When EA inevitably gets the license, hopefully guys like Flying Finn and NickChew can keep NHL 2K6 alive for a year or two with their editor and rosters, respectively, like they have with NFL 2K5.

Take care,
PK

I just wish we could have TWO very solid developers/publishers competing on equal footing (from a licensing perspective). I also wish that the hardcore/simulation players could drive improvements and innovation instead of the cheesy crap like "Tigerproofing", etc....

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