Guys:
This hurricane Katrina is revving up to be the one they've been waiting for in N. Orleans, and that's not a good thing. Chances are by tomorrow afternoon, Jackson Square could be under 30' of water as N. Orleans becomes part of Lake Pontchartrain. I hope everyone can get out of there before it hits, but you know there will be those stuck in the city.
And as bad as it could get in N. Orleans, it could be pretty darn bad elsewhere along the coast, and even inland quite a ways, as this storm is a monster.
Best of luck to those in the area, and get to the high ground!
Hopes and prayers with residents of N. Orleans, Gulf Coast
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DivotMaker
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Re: Hopes and prayers with residents of N. Orleans, Gulf Coa
Great post, Zep. I have a number of friends who are in New Orleans and all I can think about is their safety....Zeppo wrote:Guys:
This hurricane Katrina is revving up to be the one they've been waiting for in N. Orleans, and that's not a good thing. Chances are by tomorrow afternoon, Jackson Square could be under 30' of water as N. Orleans becomes part of Lake Pontchartrain. I hope everyone can get out of there before it hits, but you know there will be those stuck in the city.
And as bad as it could get in N. Orleans, it could be pretty darn bad elsewhere along the coast, and even inland quite a ways, as this storm is a monster.
Best of luck to those in the area, and get to the high ground!
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Indeed - I've just seen one natural disaster in Europe, and hope everything goes well this time.
Maybe those people doubting global warming and its environmental impact will have a look at the increasing number of weather catastrophe events around the world and wise up. If we don't find fusion technology pretty soon, we're all screwed.
Maybe those people doubting global warming and its environmental impact will have a look at the increasing number of weather catastrophe events around the world and wise up. If we don't find fusion technology pretty soon, we're all screwed.
"The players come from all over the world, the money from deep underneath the Persian Gulf, but, as another, older City poster campaign put it, this is their city. They may now exist in the global spotlight, but they intend to keep it that way."
For the record, the worst hurricane season was 1950 with 8 major hurricanes. Researchers have noted that hurricane seasons run in 25-year cycles of alternating active and less-active seasons. Meteorologists think a new cycle of active seasons started in 1995. I don't think there is evidence that global warming is causing this batch of hurricanes. In fact, I was just reading that the increase in hurricanes in the Atlantic basin has been offset by a decrease in others.davet010 wrote:Maybe those people doubting global warming and its environmental impact will have a look at the increasing number of weather catastrophe events around the world and wise up.
My hopes and prayers go out to everyone in the path of this storm.
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Actually, that is a beautiful hurricane. Unfortunately, the prettiest is also the nastiest. Fitting this one is a female name.JackDog wrote:Man that b*tch looks nasty. Thoughts and prayers to all in it's path.
As far as the global warming thing, there is no hardcore evidence that the earth is warming. There simply isn't enough data to determine that. While this year has been warmer than normal, the prevoius two years actually saw below normal temps. Some people are just so quick to assume one warm year means the end of the world is coming. The world warming less than 1C over the last 100 years isn't enough to worry about.
This is bullshit:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5612507/
By the time we get up tomorrow morning, oil could be over $75 a barrel. Don't be surprised to see gas at over $3 a gallon tomorrow.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5612507/
By the time we get up tomorrow morning, oil could be over $75 a barrel. Don't be surprised to see gas at over $3 a gallon tomorrow.
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My thoughts are with everyone in that area. This looks like one hell of a nasty storm, probably the worst of my lifetime.
The area could be inhabitable for weeks, maybe longer? Sh*t. Have you guys read some of the stuff from the Nat'l Weather Service bulletins?
The area could be inhabitable for weeks, maybe longer? Sh*t. Have you guys read some of the stuff from the Nat'l Weather Service bulletins?
HURRICANE KATRINAA MOST POWERFUL HURRICANE WITH UNPRECEDENTED STRENGTH...RIVALING THE INTENSITY OF HURRICANE CAMILLE OF 1969. MOST OF THE AREA WILL BE UNINHABITABLE FOR WEEKS...PERHAPS LONGER. ATLEAST ONE HALF OF WELL CONSTRUCTED HOMES WILL HAVE ROOF AND WALL FAILURE. ALL GABLED ROOFS WILL FAIL...LEAVING THOSE HOMES SEVERELY DAMAGED OR DESTROYED.THE MAJORITY OF INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS WILL BECOME NON FUNCTIONAL.PARTIAL TO COMPLETE WALL AND ROOF FAILURE IS EXPECTED. ALL WOOD FRAMED LOW RISING APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL BE DESTROYED.
CONCRETE BLOCK LOW RISE APARTMENTS WILL SUSTAIN MAJOR DAMAGE...INCLUDING SOME WALL AND ROOF FAILURE. HIGH RISE OFFICE AND APARTMENT BUILDINGS WILL SWAY DANGEROUSLY...A FEW TO THE POINT OF TOTAL COLLAPSE. ALL WINDOWS WILL BLOW OUT. AIRBORNE DEBRIS WILL BE WIDESPREAD...AND MAY INCLUDE HEAVY ITEMS SUCH AS HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES AND EVEN LIGHT VEHICLES. SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES AND LIGHT TRUCKS WILL BE MOVED. THE BLOWN DEBRIS WILL CREATEADDITIONAL DESTRUCTION. PERSONS...PETS...
AND LIVESTOCK EXPOSED TO THE WINDS WILL FACE CERTAIN DEATH IF STRUCK. POWER OUTAGES WILL LAST FOR WEEKS...AS MOST POWER POLES WILL BE DOWN AND TRANSFORMERS DESTROYED. WATER SHORTAGES WILL MAKE HUMAN SUFFERING INCREDIBLE BY MODERN STANDARDS.THE VAST MAJORITY OF NATIVE TREES WILL BE SNAPPED OR UPROOTED. ONLY THE HEARTIEST WILL REMAIN STANDING...
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Well the fact that New Orleans is below sea level is just ridiculous. That place is gonna fill up with water from the big ass waves, then it's gonna get a foot of rain dumped on top of that. Nothing good can happen from a hurricane hitting NO. I hope everyone has gotten their asses out of their by now. Unbelievable.
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Sort of ironic to me that Father Donovan's homily at Mass today in Marcellus was about people having to bear the cross at some point in their lives. Those people down in N'Awlins and the Gulf Coast will carry a heavy, heavy cross the next few weeks and months.
My prayers go out to them. I had to shut off CNN, MSNBC and the Weather Channel for a bit and watch some racing as it all was getting too heavy for me. This thing could be apocalyptic down there in the worse-case scenario and downright sh*tty in the best.
This hits home because one of the best times my wife and I ever had together was a three-day vacation in New Orleans in 1992. What a fantastic, vibrant, culturally rich, interesting, flat-out f*cking fun town with wonderfully welcoming people. Damn, that was a great trip. Fantastic food, booze, music and people almost non-stop.
These people may not be able to return to their homes -- if they're even standing -- for weeks or months depending on what happens. We're not talking a couple of nights in the local high school gym, which is bad enough, and then pop home here.
Prayers ...
Just wondering: Any known DSPers live in the Big Easy or Bayou area?
Take care,
PK
My prayers go out to them. I had to shut off CNN, MSNBC and the Weather Channel for a bit and watch some racing as it all was getting too heavy for me. This thing could be apocalyptic down there in the worse-case scenario and downright sh*tty in the best.
This hits home because one of the best times my wife and I ever had together was a three-day vacation in New Orleans in 1992. What a fantastic, vibrant, culturally rich, interesting, flat-out f*cking fun town with wonderfully welcoming people. Damn, that was a great trip. Fantastic food, booze, music and people almost non-stop.
These people may not be able to return to their homes -- if they're even standing -- for weeks or months depending on what happens. We're not talking a couple of nights in the local high school gym, which is bad enough, and then pop home here.
Prayers ...
Just wondering: Any known DSPers live in the Big Easy or Bayou area?
Take care,
PK
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From the National Weather Service:
The Good News: THESE OBSERVATIONS SUGGEST THAT THERE
COULD BE SOME WEAKENING OF KATRINA PRIOR TO LANDFALL.
The Bad News: ALL THIS IS RELATIVE...HOWEVER...AND KATRINA IS STILL EXPECTED TO BE OF AT LEAST CATEGORY FOUR INTENSITY WHEN IT REACHES THE COAST. AN EYEWALL REPLACEMENT AT THIS POINT IS NOT ALL GOOD NEWS...AS THEY ARE GENERALLY ACCOMPANIED BY A BROADENING OF THE WIND FIELD...SO THAT EVEN AS KATRINA WEAKENS THERE COULD BE AN INCREASE IN THE AREA THAT EXPERIENCES MAJOR HURRICANE FORCE WINDS.
Frankly I'm glad I live in earthquake country instead of hurricane country. The 89 quake in san fran was over so fast that the adrenaline rush lasted far longer than the danger. I would hate to be caught in the path of a hurricane. Seems like slow torture.
The Good News: THESE OBSERVATIONS SUGGEST THAT THERE
COULD BE SOME WEAKENING OF KATRINA PRIOR TO LANDFALL.
The Bad News: ALL THIS IS RELATIVE...HOWEVER...AND KATRINA IS STILL EXPECTED TO BE OF AT LEAST CATEGORY FOUR INTENSITY WHEN IT REACHES THE COAST. AN EYEWALL REPLACEMENT AT THIS POINT IS NOT ALL GOOD NEWS...AS THEY ARE GENERALLY ACCOMPANIED BY A BROADENING OF THE WIND FIELD...SO THAT EVEN AS KATRINA WEAKENS THERE COULD BE AN INCREASE IN THE AREA THAT EXPERIENCES MAJOR HURRICANE FORCE WINDS.
Frankly I'm glad I live in earthquake country instead of hurricane country. The 89 quake in san fran was over so fast that the adrenaline rush lasted far longer than the danger. I would hate to be caught in the path of a hurricane. Seems like slow torture.
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Except that you know it's coming and you can run from it...I'd much rather be in a big hurricane than a big earthquake. Neither would be much fun, but I'd like to at least try to run from something I see coming at me. The 6.7 in Northridge was pretty much the worst morning of my life and that was a 'mild' quake by the earth's standards.TheMightyPuck wrote:Frankly I'm glad I live in earthquake country instead of hurricane country. The 89 quake in san fran was over so fast that the adrenaline rush lasted far longer than the danger. I would hate to be caught in the path of a hurricane. Seems like slow torture.
Regardless...I hope everyone gets the hell out of dodge...the destruction could be ridiculous if it continues as planned.
I live in Lafayette, about 150 miles west of NO. So far we have got nothing but a stiff breeze and some drizzle. Even though, according to the radar map in this thread we are in the "red" area. Thank God.
As for NO, I just talked to someone who said they heard that the Mississippi River Levee had failed. That would be horrible if true.
I lived in New Orleans for about 4 years. A heavy sustained rain for a couple of hours would result in 2 feet of water in the uptown area. They just can't pump the water out fast enough. Thankfully, it seems as if the storm weakened, but unfortunately not enough to avoid major flooding.
I went through one hurricane while I lived in New Orleans. A near miss. I stayed at a friend's house to ride it out. After securing all his windows the best we could, we hunkered down inside to ride it out. After a few hours my friend, a life long New Orleanian(?) ran outside to his shed in a panic. I wondered what he was doing, and then he came back in with an ax and ran up to the attic. When I asked him what it was for, he said it was there just in case the water got so high we had to chop our way through the roof to get out of the attic.
Now you know someplace where people actually know they have to plan like that is crazy.
As for NO, I just talked to someone who said they heard that the Mississippi River Levee had failed. That would be horrible if true.
I lived in New Orleans for about 4 years. A heavy sustained rain for a couple of hours would result in 2 feet of water in the uptown area. They just can't pump the water out fast enough. Thankfully, it seems as if the storm weakened, but unfortunately not enough to avoid major flooding.
I went through one hurricane while I lived in New Orleans. A near miss. I stayed at a friend's house to ride it out. After securing all his windows the best we could, we hunkered down inside to ride it out. After a few hours my friend, a life long New Orleanian(?) ran outside to his shed in a panic. I wondered what he was doing, and then he came back in with an ax and ran up to the attic. When I asked him what it was for, he said it was there just in case the water got so high we had to chop our way through the roof to get out of the attic.
Now you know someplace where people actually know they have to plan like that is crazy.
Thanks, PK. I'm not too worried as we are pretty far west of it, and usually the east side is the one that catches hell. Although as I say that the wind begins to howl and I look out my office window to see some trees swaying near where I parked my car this morning. I'll just stop saying positive things so I don't jinx my poor car.
Anyway, I found this quote in a story on the net. Why is this guy still around?
"I'm not doing too good right now," Chris Robinson said via cellphone from his home east of the city's downtown. "The water's rising pretty fast. I got a hammer and an ax and a crowbar, but I'm holding off on breaking through the roof until the last minute. Tell someone to come get me please. I want to live."
Why don't people listen to the warnings?
Hope there aren't too many others in similar situations.
Joe
Anyway, I found this quote in a story on the net. Why is this guy still around?
"I'm not doing too good right now," Chris Robinson said via cellphone from his home east of the city's downtown. "The water's rising pretty fast. I got a hammer and an ax and a crowbar, but I'm holding off on breaking through the roof until the last minute. Tell someone to come get me please. I want to live."
Why don't people listen to the warnings?
Hope there aren't too many others in similar situations.
Joe