Magic number for Cardinals to clinch the Central...

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Thu May 26, 2005 11:31 am

MizzouRah wrote:Hey, that's the past man.

All Pirates fans must live in the past.

spooky157 · Post by **spooky157** » Thu May 26, 2005 1:36 pm

GTHobbes wrote:
dbdynsty25 wrote:
GTHobbes wrote:I'm all for a 5 gamer in the first round. The team that wins, usually deserves it. There have been exceptions, but for the most part, the seedings hold true.
Guess one notable exception would be Seattle...didn't they get bounced in the divisional series the year that they had 117 wins (or however many it was)? I still don't think adding 2 games to the first round would be that big of a deal.

The Mariners lost in the ALCS that year to the Yankees.

GTHobbes · Post by **GTHobbes** » Thu May 26, 2005 2:15 pm

I stand corrected...thanks spooky.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Thu May 26, 2005 7:48 pm

Chicago White Sox ...

Your 2005 World Series Champs.

tjung0831 · Post by **tjung0831** » Thu May 26, 2005 10:39 pm

XXXIV wrote:Chicago White Sox ...

Your 2005 World Series Champs.

If the Cardinals can't win it I would actually root for the White Sox....or maybe the Texas Rangers. A Cardinals and White Sox fall classic would be alright with me.

Tim

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri May 27, 2005 10:07 pm

Well you guys can kiss the Cubs goodbye. Losing Mark Prior to a broken arm, his pitching arm, is not a good thing for the Cub faithful. Maybe next year!

sfz_T-car · Post by **sfz_T-car** » Fri May 27, 2005 10:10 pm

it was all Dusty's fault

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Fri May 27, 2005 10:19 pm

sfz_T-car wrote:it was all Dusty's fault

I know what you mean..... I blamed MY last case of hemorroids on him...

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Sat May 28, 2005 9:27 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:Well you guys can kiss the Cubs goodbye. Losing Mark Prior to a broken arm, his pitching arm, is not a good thing for the Cub faithful. Maybe next year!

I kissed them goodbye when they lost Alou and didn't pick up a closer in the offseason.

Who am I kidding... I kiss them goodbye every year.

Todd

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:07 am

Tim,

Please think before ever making another Cardinals Magic Number post. 5.5 games ahead of the Cubbies and we're playing like cr&p. I'm sorry, but Isringhausen is overrated.

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:06 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:Well you guys can kiss the Cubs goodbye. Losing Mark Prior to a broken arm, his pitching arm, is not a good thing for the Cub faithful. Maybe next year!

You were saying?

Chicago Trib says he could be back by the All-Star Break. Plus, despite all their pitching woes, they are 9th in ERA, 1st in strikeouts, and 6th in WHIP. If they can hold it together for another month while Prior and Wood heal up, they can be in the thick of things come September.

I am not silly enough to count on the Cubs for anything, but they have been the opposite of last year's team, gritting through some injuries and tough losses to hang in there.

HouOilers · Post by **HouOilers** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:21 am

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:43 am

Brando70 wrote:You were saying?

I was saying the Cubs are done, and I stand by that statement. All-Star break...yeah right. August at the earliest is my bet.

Jayhawker · Post by **Jayhawker** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:48 pm

sportdan30 wrote:Tim,

Please think before ever making another Cardinals Magic Number post. 5.5 games ahead of the Cubbies and we're playing like cr&p. I'm sorry, but Isringhausen is overrated.

Get ahold of yourself, man!

Let's look at the facts. The Cards are now on a pace to win 104 games. But lets not stop there! If they play .500 ball the rest of the way, they still manage 89 wins.

The Cubs are on a pace to win 87 games. Not enough to even beat the Cards if they become a .500 team. Seriously, the Cubs are not going to win 90 games. And the Cards have won 7 of their last 10, so they are not exactly playing like crap.

As for Izzy, he's only overrated if you really thought of him as an equal to Gagne or Rivera. He's NEVER been that. What is overrated is the importance of the closer. Maybe it meant something in the Bruce Sutter and Goose Gossage days, when they would stroll in during the 7th and close a game out, but it's been a long time since then.

HouOilers · Post by **HouOilers** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:03 pm

So it's 104 wins now instead of 105? LOL

I think you can drop the 104/105 win pipe dream. The cards have a losing record vs teams with winning records and their going to have to play a tougher schedule than they did in may.

This thread should be renamed 'Baseball 101 : pennants aren't won in May'.

As for the cubs, if they continue to play like this, it won't really matter where they are with the cards in the NLC in september. Theyll probably win the WC. That would be interesting to see, a cubs-cards NLCS if both teams get that far.

Jayhawker · Post by **Jayhawker** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 1:58 pm

HouOilers wrote:So it's 104 wins now instead of 105? LOL

I still think they will hit 105. It's just that they keep slumping, but then they are still on a pace to win more than a hundred games.

I think you can drop the 104/105 win pipe dream. The cards have a losing record vs teams with winning records and their going to have to play a tougher schedule than they did in may.

Well, you are wrong. Twenty-three of their first Fifty-three games have been against the NL Central. Fifty-seven of their last ninety-nine games will be against the Central.

This thread should be renamed 'Baseball 101 : pennants aren't won in May'.

Maybe they should call it, "Baseball 102: Cub and Astro fans have no clue what it takes to win a Pennant"

As for the cubs, if they continue to play like this, it won't really matter where they are with the cards in the NLC in september. Theyll probably win the WC.

So you feel free to dismiss the Cards record over 53 games, but are willing to entertain playoff dreams for a team that was under.500 just eight games ago? The Royals just swept the Yankees. Ready to nominate Buddy Bell for manager of the year?

How about "Advanced Baseball Wisdom 201: Pennants CAN be lost in May." I bet Astro fans could ace that class!

rubba19 · Post by **rubba19** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 2:36 pm

Jayhawker wrote: The Royals just swept the Yankees. Ready to nominate Buddy Bell for manager of the year?

I am!

RCJGKU!

HouOilers · Post by **HouOilers** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 3:37 pm

Jayhawker wrote:
HouOilers wrote:So it's 104 wins now instead of 105? LOL
I still think they will hit 105. It's just that they keep slumping, but then they are still on a pace to win more than a hundred games.

I think you can drop the 104/105 win pipe dream. The cards have a losing record vs teams with winning records and their going to have to play a tougher schedule than they did in may.
Well, you are wrong. Twenty-three of their first Fifty-three games have been against the NL Central. Fifty-seven of their last ninety-nine games will be against the Central.

This thread should be renamed 'Baseball 101 : pennants aren't won in May'.
Maybe they should call it, "Baseball 102: Cub and Astro fans have no clue what it takes to win a Pennant"

As for the cubs, if they continue to play like this, it won't really matter where they are with the cards in the NLC in september. Theyll probably win the WC.
So you feel free to dismiss the Cards record over 53 games, but are willing to entertain playoff dreams for a team that was under.500 just eight games ago? The Royals just swept the Yankees. Ready to nominate Buddy Bell for manager of the year?

How about "Advanced Baseball Wisdom 201: Pennants CAN be lost in May." I bet Astro fans could ace that class!

LOL, why so uptight? I thought the cards are gonna win 105 games? Why are you so flustered? Something worrying you?

All I know is that REAL baseball fans are smart enough not to proclaim pennants in May, even if their team is 20 games up. That's just basic baseball logic.

Jayhawker · Post by **Jayhawker** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:26 pm

HouOilers wrote: LOL, why so uptight? I thought the cards are gonna win 105 games? Why are you so flustered? Something worrying you?

All I know is that REAL baseball fans are smart enough not to proclaim pennants in May, even if their team is 20 games up. That's just basic baseball logic.

I still think they are going to win 105. I'm just confused why you would make up stuff to say they weren't. One of the reasons I think they will is the weak-ass division they play in. They will play even more of their games against the Central the rest of the way.

At least I have never been reduced to rooting for the Cubs. I've never seen one seven game win streak given so much weight before.

DivotMaker · Post by **DivotMaker** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:56 pm

Jayhawker wrote:
1) Maybe they should call it, "Baseball 102: Cub and Astro fans have no clue what it takes to win a Pennant"

2) How about "Advanced Baseball Wisdom 201: Pennants CAN be lost in May." I bet Astro fans could ace that class!

1) Maybe they should call the Cardinals the 2nd or 3rd best team money can buy. With their lineup, they SHOULD win the freaking pennant. At least Cardinal ownership is not stupid enough to let 30-40% of their offense (Beltran/Kent) walk out the door in the offseason....

2) I am finding it humorous that Cardinal fan is piling on the Astros at this point. Houston's season was doomed the minute Kent and Beltran bolted and Berkman went down during an idiotic pick up game. Houston had their chances last Fall, but at the end of the day did not have enough horsepower to compete position by position. Until the Astros find ownership that is truly committed to doing whatever it takes to win, Houston fans will continue to dream of what it is like to see a World Series in H-town....

TheGamer · Post by **TheGamer** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:07 pm

If I recall, the Cubs were in 3rd place, 5games behind the Astros and Cardinals in August/September of 2003 and still won the division. As it stands now they are only 1 game behind the wild card lead. The national league is extremely weak this year and the same weak teams the Cards are playing in the Central, the Cubs are playing them also. For the Cubs to be "only" 5.5 back with injuries to their #1 & #2 pitchers (who should both be back late July), and starting shortstop, the Cards should be very worried.. especially since the two teams play each other 14 more times this season. And since Hendry traded Hawkins that gets rid of several potential blown saves.

The Cardinal team had a career year last year, don't expect it again this year.

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:31 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:
Brando70 wrote:You were saying?
I was saying the Cubs are done, and I stand by that statement. All-Star break...yeah right. August at the earliest is my bet.

Hey, look who's a half game ahead of the Braves in the WC standings. Too bad those Expos are so damn tough to beat, looks like you might miss out on another meaningful divisional title.

fatheadX · Post by **fatheadX** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:53 am

I'm just warning everyone now: HERE COME THE ROCKIES!! Four game win streak, baby, oh yeah!

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:17 am

Don't NFL training camps open next month?

Back to your baseball talk, fellas!

Take care,
PK

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:34 am

pk500 wrote:Don't NFL training camps open next month?

Back to your baseball talk, fellas!

Take care,
PK

Hey, I don't go sticking my nose into your fast car threads, so keep your hatin' rear end out of here. Take your geritol and get back into the Craftmatic you old coot.