Monday Night Forza!

DChaps · Post by **DChaps** » Mon May 09, 2005 5:21 pm

I would love to race tonight, but have not had much time with the game since I brought it home at lunch the day of release. I got online for couple races last week and I was so far behind. Have not even started career mode or anything so I guess I am going to need to get some upgrades first.

TCrouch · Post by **TCrouch** » Mon May 09, 2005 5:30 pm

Don, you can hang around in the back with me. When we get out of D-Class, I haven't touched a car for more than 10 seconds, so chances are I'll be getting lapped. I can hold my own in the D's, but I'll have to do some offline career to get a handle on the C's or better. I didn't get to play all weekend so I'll be out of it for sure.

marino · Post by **marino** » Mon May 09, 2005 5:34 pm

Sure.Sure, and I just saw some pigs flying outside my office window.

PadresFan104 · Post by **PadresFan104** » Mon May 09, 2005 6:01 pm

TCrouch wrote:I didn't get to play all weekend so I'll be out of it for sure.

I think Terry likes to give us hope, as it makes it all the more pleasurable for him when he crushes it...

- Al

ddtrane · Post by **ddtrane** » Mon May 09, 2005 8:31 pm

TCrouch wrote:Don, you can hang around in the back with me. When we get out of D-Class, I haven't touched a car for more than 10 seconds, so chances are I'll be getting lapped. I can hold my own in the D's, but I'll have to do some offline career to get a handle on the C's or better. I didn't get to play all weekend so I'll be out of it for sure.

Hey, I would like in. I'll be the one in the rear tryin not to get lapped. My gt is dd trane, hope to see some of you.

Sully · Post by **Sully** » Mon May 09, 2005 8:36 pm

I'll be there around 9:15pm EST.

ddtrane · Post by **ddtrane** » Mon May 09, 2005 10:36 pm

I've decided to join another night, I picked up the game today thinking it was like PGR2 and was totally surprised by its play. Much harder, and I keep spinning out all over the place. Otherwise, a very solid title, and I didn't want to upset no one with my horrendous driving.

Talamius · Post by **Talamius** » Mon May 09, 2005 11:21 pm

Good racing tonight guys

Atxj · Post by **Atxj** » Tue May 10, 2005 2:28 am

Good racing tonight gentlemen, much fun!

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Tue May 10, 2005 8:50 am

Fun times last night, boys. Got pissed and was tired at the end, so I parked it. It was close to 2 a.m. here.

I think I'm painfully learning that I can't get away with driving f*cked up in Forza like I can in other racing games. May have to stay on the straight and narrow when playing this in the future if I want any success.

Take care,
PK

lsdean · Post by **lsdean** » Tue May 10, 2005 9:09 am

Fun stuff last night. Thanks to everyone putting up with my first time around the track. Things got a little bit better as the night went on.

James_E · Post by **James_E** » Tue May 10, 2005 9:46 am

lsdean - the following comment was made last night while I was there, when we saw you online with Forza.

"What is lsdean doing with a racing game?"

Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Tue May 10, 2005 9:59 am

Fun times indeeed...that is until PK pooched my tailpipe and didn't even give me the courtesy of a goddam reach around before he quit out!!!

lsdean · Post by **lsdean** » Tue May 10, 2005 10:05 am

James_E wrote:lsdean - the following comment was made last night while I was there, when we saw you online with Forza.

"What is lsdean doing with a racing game?"

Yeah, I know. I have not played many racing games but I really enjoyed playing last night.

Fshguy · Post by **Fshguy** » Tue May 10, 2005 10:46 am

lsdean wrote:
James_E wrote:lsdean - the following comment was made last night while I was there, when we saw you online with Forza.

"What is lsdean doing with a racing game?"
Yeah, I know. I have not played many racing games but I really enjoyed playing last night.

Yeah, good to see that he's expanding his horrizons... Of course in a couple weeks I see a Splinter Cell game...

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Tue May 10, 2005 10:51 am

Spooky wrote:Fun times indeeed...that is until PK pooched my tailpipe and didn't even give me the courtesy of a goddam reach around before he quit out!!!

Sorry. If that was Turn 5 at Road America, then it was because I got cornholed hard from behind, throwing my car into yours. One incident, and my car was wrecked. That's when I called it a night.

Take care,
PK

PadresFan104 · Post by **PadresFan104** » Tue May 10, 2005 12:09 pm

pk500 wrote:
Spooky wrote:Fun times indeeed...that is until PK pooched my tailpipe and didn't even give me the courtesy of a goddam reach around before he quit out!!!
Sorry. If that was Turn 5 at Road America, then it was because I got cornholed hard from behind, throwing my car into yours. One incident, and my car was wrecked. That's when I called it a night.

Take care,
PK

Crap, that was probably me, though I honestly don't remember throwing you into another car... but it was turn 5 as Road America...

I felt bad about it, especially since you left at that point...

-Al

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Tue May 10, 2005 12:26 pm

No worries, Al. It happens. I left more because I was tired, altered and frustrated.

I don't live in a glass house, so I'm not throwing stones because you made a mistake. Lord knows I've made more than my share out there.

Take care,
PK

Spooky · Post by **Spooky** » Tue May 10, 2005 12:43 pm

pk500 wrote:
Spooky wrote:Fun times indeeed...that is until PK pooched my tailpipe and didn't even give me the courtesy of a goddam reach around before he quit out!!!
Sorry. If that was Turn 5 at Road America, then it was because I got cornholed hard from behind, throwing my car into yours. One incident, and my car was wrecked. That's when I called it a night.

Take care,
PK

Absolutely no worries...I was kidding, totally. It's a freakin' video game. I was laughing when it happened and we were joking about how my carcass shell of a car looked.

Mistakes will happen unless you are always perfect, which becomes no fun (we'll have to ask Terry

). The only time something like that would ever piss me off is if I felt it was done intentionally or that the people doing it were totally inexperienced and making no effort to improve or apologize.

Hell, I would hate to feel like people were pissed at me or not want me to join their sessions because I was not very good. Even if someone sucks once in a while (like most of us at any given point on any given turn), there are ways to be a considerate racer.

That is one thing I do struggle with and someone even mentioned my same issue last night while racing. I become much more worried about accidentally f*cking other people up than I do about running good lines. Generally, if I am either way out in front (yeah right!) or way in back, I run a much better race. If I am surrounded by other drivers I get so worried about pooching someone else that I start to make mistakes. That is something I desperately need to overcome and it will just take practice. I don’t have a whole lot of good passing practice. But, my biggest issue right now is with getting rear ended, and I think that it is mostly my fault because I think I tend to slow down either a bit too early or just too much for certain turns and other guys come FLYING into them and smash into me. I cannot tell if these drivers were going too fast for the turn or I was going too slow, but I think it is me more or less. Even with the racing line on, I tend to be conservative with my approach to corners and speed. I’d much rather have slowed down a bit too much, but still stay on the track than go flying off into the grass/dirt.

Anyway, I’ll get better…

PadresFan104 · Post by **PadresFan104** » Tue May 10, 2005 1:13 pm

pk500 wrote:No worries, Al. It happens. I left more because I was tired, altered and frustrated.

I don't live in a glass house, so I'm not throwing stones because you made a mistake. Lord knows I've made more than my share out there.

Take care,
PK

Right on, thanks!

-Al

PadresFan104 · Post by **PadresFan104** » Tue May 10, 2005 1:16 pm

Spooky wrote:But, my biggest issue right now is with getting rear ended, and I think that it is mostly my fault because I think I tend to slow down either a bit too early or just too much for certain turns…

Yep, that's what I was talking about last night. I've been playing with the racing line off, making me ultra-conservative in the corners. Of course, that doesn't account for me cornholing PK at Road America...

- Al

mixdj1 · Post by **mixdj1** » Tue May 10, 2005 2:25 pm

Spooky wrote:That is one thing I do struggle with and someone even mentioned my same issue last night while racing. I become much more worried about accidentally f*cking other people up than I do about running good lines. Generally, if I am either way out in front (yeah right!) or way in back, I run a much better race. If I am surrounded by other drivers I get so worried about pooching someone else that I start to make mistakes. That is something I desperately need to overcome and it will just take practice. I don’t have a whole lot of good passing practice. But, my biggest issue right now is with getting rear ended, and I think that it is mostly my fault because I think I tend to slow down either a bit too early or just too much for certain turns and other guys come FLYING into them and smash into me. I cannot tell if these drivers were going too fast for the turn or I was going too slow, but I think it is me more or less. Even with the racing line on, I tend to be conservative with my approach to corners and speed. I’d much rather have slowed down a bit too much, but still stay on the track than go flying off into the grass/dirt.

If I didn't know better I would swear I posted all of that. I am exactly the same way. I do great against the CPU and running hotlaps but get me around other racers on Live and I become so obsessed with not wrecking them that my line goes to s***. I've been this way since Moto GP during the Xbox Live beta test so unfortunately I don't think it will improve for me. At least these cars tend to take a bump better than the cars in TOCA so I don't get quite as paranoid as I used to.

DChaps · Post by **DChaps** » Tue May 10, 2005 2:55 pm

mixdj1 wrote:If I didn't know better I would swear I posted all of that. I am exactly the same way. I do great against the CPU and running hotlaps but get me around other racers on Live and I become so obsessed with not wrecking them than my line goes to s***. I've been this way since Moto GP during the Xbox Live beta test so unfortunately I don't think it will improve for me. At least these cars tend to take a bump better than the cars in TOCA so I don't get quite as paranoid as I used to.

Yeah, I've got that problem too. I can't tell you how many times I ended up in the wall in our NR2003 league because I got nervous racing side by side, or just wanted to make sure I did not mess up someone's race. What a wuss I am.

bkrich83 · Post by **bkrich83** » Tue May 10, 2005 2:58 pm

DChaps wrote:
mixdj1 wrote:If I didn't know better I would swear I posted all of that. I am exactly the same way. I do great against the CPU and running hotlaps but get me around other racers on Live and I become so obsessed with not wrecking them than my line goes to s***. I've been this way since Moto GP during the Xbox Live beta test so unfortunately I don't think it will improve for me. At least these cars tend to take a bump better than the cars in TOCA so I don't get quite as paranoid as I used to.
Yeah, I've got that problem too. I can't tell you how many times I ended up in the wall in our NR2003 league because I got nervous racing side by side, or just wanted to make sure I did not mess up someone's race. What a wuss I am.

I am in the exact same boat. Except when it comes to Neckthai. I seem to knock the crap out of him every game, whether it be Toca or MotoGP.

Just played in a random room with a bunch of guys who were pretty good racers, but my results suffered because I took crappy lines due to being so paranoid about hitting someone.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Tue May 10, 2005 3:10 pm

You guys all are identifying why top racers are among the most selfish, self-centered athletes in existence when they're in their element. It's all about them, how they can climb through the field, f*ck the opponent unless it's a teammate, etc.

The best drivers in the world -- Schumacher, Raikkonen, Loeb, Solberg, Gordon, Kristensen, Stewart, Alonso, Kanaan, Wheldon, Bourdais, Kinser -- might be decent-to-great guys out of the car, but they're ruthless c*cksuckers in the car. They'd run over their grandmother if it meant the checkered flag.

That's the way you have to look at it when you're racing someone. You don't want to take the guy out or do something stupid, but you sure as hell don't want to back off unless the move is totally impossible.

Take Terry, for example. He and I have had some epic wheel-to-wheel, fender-to-fender battles in TOCA 2. He races hard as a diamond, but he also knows when to back off and when to charge. Same with Zeppo. Both of those cats -- and others I haven't mentioned -- prove that you can be ruthless, aggressive yet still race clean.

Bottom line: Worry more about getting to the front than about the other guy. Nearly all of you are honorable racers and wouldn't take someone out or use bumper cars to pass someone, so your ethical instincts will prevent you from driving like an idiot while being aggressive.

Racing is one videogame genre I don't play to relax. I get amped up, even when f*cked up, and am way more focused than in any other genre of game I play.

When racing online, I'm on kill as much as I can be in a video game while still keeping friends on XBL.

Take care,
PK