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Completely forgot about your warning, and was fooled with the maximum allowed. Frustrating hole for sure in an otherwise fine course.JOZ wrote:Oh, and have fun on the 10th hole of the final round in this weekend's tournament guys
When you’re an inch way from the hole you should not roll down 10 ft, come on...I remembered his warning, dropped a lofted approach shot in a good 18 feet short of the hole, and watched in horror as it rolled 32 feet past the hole, after brushing the edge of the hole. Vader had a putt that was within a foot from where my ball was and I watched it as he played his. He missed the hole on the low side because there was an inconspicuously big break to the left about three feet from the hole. His putt came to rest in a little "pocket" about a foot past the hole.10spro wrote:Completely forgot about your warning, and was fooled with the maximum allowed. Frustrating hole for sure in an otherwise fine course.JOZ wrote:Oh, and have fun on the 10th hole of the final round in this weekend's tournament guys
To my right, Jozarus was playing see-saw with the green, as I saw him go back and forth twice. I made myself miss my next putt in the same manner that Vader's had earlier. I knew risking making the putt could put me right back where I was. I managed to hit the identical putt to Vader's, and sure 'nuff, it wound up in exactly that same little 'safe' pocket in the green that he'd found earlier. 
Even if that was an accurate pin position, you wouldn't see the same issues IRL because real life doesn't have the insane physics of this game.J_Cauthen wrote: I was elated to walk away from that hole with anything less than a triple! And to think, that was on medium speed greens!? I wish I could go back over all four rounds of the Traveler's this past week to see if they had a pin placement remotely close to this one in round 4. That was absurd
I take it that you rage quite at some point while playing the 5th hole? I was playing with Vader's ghost ball, and I saw how he played it, so I cowered under a slinked away with a par... if you didn't keep your ball on that upper tier, you were dead meat, from what I could see. This was a LiDAR course that's supposedly got very accurate topography. I did see some slopes on both 5 and 6 that had me scratching my head.JOZ wrote:And.......rage quit. Did elevation on the greens even matter on that course? Apparently 9 inches uphill on a 9 ft putt doesn't. Putting physics on this game are batshit crazy sometimes.
The Royal Hague G&CC had firm, fast greens so that contributed to what you were seeing. I had played a nine hole practice round there earlier in the day, so I had an idea of how fast the greens were. I had a one stroke lead on Vader, as shown on the mini scoring status display in the upper left corner which is current. Unfortunately, I accidentally looked at the main leaderboard after 17, and I could see that Vader bogeyed the 18th. That took a lot of the drama out of the hole, but I figured, if he bogeyed it, then certainly I was capable of bogeying it.JOZ wrote:Somewhere around there. I know I hit the first part 5 in two and proceeded to bogey. I was about to 4 putt (at least) another hole when I quit. I didn't feel like I was putting hard at all, but the ball seem to be shooting off my putter like a cannon. I just can't get putting down for the life of me.
Came back to shoot a pretty decent round, but I noticed Vader was like -6 under through eight holes when I was done 
I doubled the 3rd myself. Wound up with 3 bogeys and a double on this course. My putting confidence is AOL right now. It was an interesting course though.JOZ wrote:Got my first ace on the 6th hole today. Pretty awesome considering I had almost rage quit again over the 3rd hole quad bogey. Went back and forth on the green, then forgot to change to a chip shot and hit a full lob wedge pass the green.
I wound up with a double bogey and 4 bogeys on that course. I enjoyed it though, but I now wonder if I wouldn't have played it better from the tips!?Yep those were the most frustrating greens I've played in a 4 rounder yet. They weren't tricked up greens or anything cheap, was just hard to get a consistent feel for the speed and break on them, really tough course.Leadfoot5 wrote:The greens this weekend. Ugh! When Vader isn't in the double digits after 1 or 2 rounds, you KNOW it's a tough course...
Ha, I wish! I jump back on occasionally to see if the feel has changed on master clubs. I still feel like it has random crap to make you have miss hits or something. I can have what to me feels like the same swing and I get different results a lot. It just feels like I’m not controlling it and I just can’t get into it.J_Cauthen wrote:"The TRUTH" is back in the field this week at Detroit... we'd all better be ready to up our game! This course has a really good tournament atmosphere and provides a good challenge.
I tried getting back on board with the Master clubs after round 1. I shot even par both days, but I'll bet I had less than 20% of my shots go with "perfect/perfect" tempo. I did see a few of the seemingly random "Very Fast" downswing tempos that are usually fatal.TheTruth wrote:Ha, I wish! I jump back on occasionally to see if the feel has changed on master clubs. I still feel like it has random crap to make you have miss hits or something. I can have what to me feels like the same swing and I get different results a lot. It just feels like I’m not controlling it and I just can’t get into it.
And I’ve had about 4 putts where the ball goes diagonally off the face of the putter. Drives me crazy. These greens are tough too.
Next time you play with him ask him how he consistently scores such low rounds in our tournaments (other than playing a lot).10spro wrote:I remembered asking Vader during our weekend skinz game what he shot for the last round when he responded: ‘You have to finish your play to find out’. After that statement I knew he probably shot to the moon and back on what we all agreed was a tough tournament. The reason why I asked him was because I was in uncharted territory leading him by two strokes after three rounds.
It’s called the Vader bounce.MERACE wrote:Next time you play with him ask him how he consistently scores such low rounds in our tournaments (other than playing a lot).10spro wrote:I remembered asking Vader during our weekend skinz game what he shot for the last round when he responded: ‘You have to finish your play to find out’. After that statement I knew he probably shot to the moon and back on what we all agreed was a tough tournament. The reason why I asked him was because I was in uncharted territory leading him by two strokes after three rounds.
-MERACE
It’s called the Vader bounce.MERACE wrote:Next time you play with him ask him how he consistently scores such low rounds in our tournaments (other than playing a lot).10spro wrote:I remembered asking Vader during our weekend skinz game what he shot for the last round when he responded: ‘You have to finish your play to find out’. After that statement I knew he probably shot to the moon and back on what we all agreed was a tough tournament. The reason why I asked him was because I was in uncharted territory leading him by two strokes after three rounds.
-MERACE
