DSP Boxing thread. Ding! Ding!

[Inuyasha]

Canelo! Now that was a fight.

[Rodster]

Canelo! Now that was a fight.

Didn't Mayweather beat him decisively?

[pk500]

Canelo! Now that was a fight.

Damn straight. I would have felt satisfied and exhilarated spending $100 for that fight. Instead, it was on regular HBO.

Canelo's punches were so accurate last night. Best I've seen from him. Laser-guided bombs in a roughhouse battle.

Highlights:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LehQX1bbGQk

[pk500]

Canelo! Now that was a fight.

Didn't Mayweather beat him decisively?

Yes, in the same way he beat Pacquiao. Stuck, moved, countered, ran. Canelo couldn't catch him.

It's the standard Floyd formula for success. No one does it better, and no elite fighter except for maybe Erislandy Lara and Guillermo Rigondeaux is more boring than Mayweather.

[Rodster]

Canelo! Now that was a fight.

Didn't Mayweather beat him decisively?

Yes, in the same way he beat Pacquiao. Stuck, moved, countered, ran. Canelo couldn't catch him.

It's the standard Floyd formula for success. No one does it better, and no elite fighter except for maybe Erislandy Lara and Guillermo Rigondeaux is more boring than Mayweather.

Did Floyd Sr have a similar style to Jr? Cause I remember seeing a YouTube video where Leonard whooped Floyd Sr.

[Diablo25]

5 rounds in and Bradley/Vargas are in a good one!

[Diablo25]

CRAZY ass end to the Bradley Vargas fight! Referee jumps in on the 10 second clap when Bradley, who was handily winning the fight, got caught with a great right from Vargas. Vargas thought he was stopping the fight when he was signaling the end of the fight. Bradley definitely won. Wow.

[pk500]

The California athletic commission must suspend Pat Russell as a referee for a year, with the end result being Russell's retirement. That was deplorable.

[Diablo25]

The California athletic commission must suspend Pat Russell as a referee for a year, with the end result being Russell's retirement. That was deplorable.

Crazy stuff. Sad thing is he did a nice job for the entire fight. Huge mistake to end it.

[pk500]

The California athletic commission must suspend Pat Russell as a referee for a year, with the end result being Russell's retirement. That was deplorable.

Crazy stuff. Sad thing is he did a nice job for the entire fight. Huge mistake to end it.

Russell usually is quite competent. Bradley never is easy to officiate because he head-butts like a billy goat.

[Rodster]

Not boxing related and did not want to start a UFC thread because there's a lack of interest, myself included. I read that Holm's destroyed Rhonda Rousey last night. Holm's is basically a boxer with a great reach vs Rousey's MMA style. Holm's sent Rousey to the hospital for a busted lip after a knockout blow from a kick to the neck and then proceeded to climb on top of Rousey to continue the ass kicking.

And they say boxing is a violent sport? I think the UFC has that hands down.

[vader29]

Not boxing related and did not want to start a UFC thread because there's a lack of interest, myself included. I read that Holm's destroyed Rhonda Rousey last night. Holm's is basically a boxer with a great reach vs Rousey's MMA style. Holm's sent Rousey to the hospital for a busted lip after a knockout blow from a kick to the neck and then proceeded to climb on top of Rousey to continue the ass kicking.

And they say boxing is a violent sport? I think the UFC has that hands down.

[Diablo25]

UFC sucks.

[Rodster]

Ha, I forgot about the EA curse.

[pk500]

UFC sucks.

Word. And boxing is FAR more violent than UFC. Boxers take repeated blows to the head, many more than UFC fighters. Plus, as Holm proved last night, the hardest punchers in the world are boxers, not MMA fighters.

I'll double down on Bill's accurate proclamation: UFC really sucks. Boxing forever.

[Rodster]

Hmm, I can't say boxing is more violent. When the UFC started catching on in the mid 90's I remember people who were fans of the sport telling me how fighters would break body parts of their opponents to make them give up. That's been toned down in recent years.

[pk500]

Hmm, I can't say boxing is more violent. When the UFC started catching on in the mid 90's I remember people who were fans of the sport telling me how fighters would break body parts of their opponents to make them give up. That's been toned down in recent years.

Boxing is more violent from a long-term perspective due to the repeated blows to the head. There are no tap-outs in boxing, dude.

[XXXIV]

she aint pretty no more...

[Rodster]

Hmm, I can't say boxing is more violent. When the UFC started catching on in the mid 90's I remember people who were fans of the sport telling me how fighters would break body parts of their opponents to make them give up. That's been toned down in recent years.

Boxing is more violent from a long-term perspective due to the repeated blows to the head. There are no tap-outs in boxing, dude.

Sure a boxing match goes on much longer while the UFC has much shorter bouts because of the violent nature of the sport. Pretty much every UFC fighter I have seen has cauliflower ears, Rousey included and one of her takedown moves supposedly is to break her opponents arm.

[pk500]

Hmm, I can't say boxing is more violent. When the UFC started catching on in the mid 90's I remember people who were fans of the sport telling me how fighters would break body parts of their opponents to make them give up. That's been toned down in recent years.

Boxing is more violent from a long-term perspective due to the repeated blows to the head. There are no tap-outs in boxing, dude.

Sure a boxing match goes on much longer while the UFC has much shorter bouts because of the violent nature of the sport. Pretty much every UFC fighter I have seen has cauliflower ears, Rousey included and one of her takedown moves supposedly is to break her opponents arm.

Dude, please. Gennady Golovkin connected on 280 of 549 punches for a 51 percent connect percentage in his last fight, last month against David Lemieux. I've never seen 280 punches THROWN in a UFC fight.

Think about who's suffering more damage: A chick tapping out on an arm bar before having her arm broken by Ronda Rousey or David Lemieux absorbing 280 punches -- with about three-quarter of them to his head, causing minor concussions on some of the blows -- from one of the hardest punchers in the world.

[Rodster]

How many rounds is the average boxing match scheduled for vs a UFC fight? UFC fights are scheduled for at least 3 rds and when the fighters finish they look like absolute HELL after just one rd. And tell me getting a roundhouse kicked to the head isn't going to give you some sort of brain damage? I cringe when ever I see a UFC fighter with cauliflower ear and thinking, nope no long term health issues to worry about there.

[pk500]

How many rounds is the average boxing match scheduled for vs a UFC fight? UFC fights are scheduled for at least 3 rds and when the fighters finish they look like absolute HELL after just one rd. And tell me getting a roundhouse kicked to the head isn't going to give you some sort of brain damage? I cringe when ever I see a UFC fighter with cauliflower ear and thinking, nope no long term health issues to worry about there.

UFC fights are five five-minute rounds. 25 minutes of combat.

Boxing matches are 12 three-minute rounds. 36 minutes of combat.

A properly placed and thrown power punch has just as much power and force -- if not more -- than a roundhouse kick, which often loses some of its momentum in the elongated kicking action. The best punchers in boxing get their power from footwork and compact punching. It may not look dramatic, but proper, compact boxing punches are far more effective and lethal than the barroom-brawl wild punching seen in many UFC matches.

One other factor that you clearly haven't considered: Boxers wear far thicker wraps and heavier gloves. UFC gloves are 4 ounces, with minimal wraps. Boxers wear 8- or 10-ounce gloves -- depending on weight class -- and use heavy gauze-and-tape wraps. That heavier mass creates a lot more damage than a UFC wrap and glove, especially when thrown by someone trained specifically in punching.

Think about it this way: What will hurt more? Getting hit by a Red Wing carpenter's hammer or a small sledge? The carpenter's hammer is a UFC glove; the small sledge is a boxing glove. UFC fighters look more damaged because the smaller gloves lead to more cuts and bruises due to lack of padding. But the brain takes a far greater sustained pounding in boxing due to the longer fights and bigger, heavier gloves.

It's simple physics, dude: More mass plus more concentrated, trained force equals greater destruction.

And don't even get me started on body shots. They are landed far more often in boxing than UFC, and it's pretty standard for most boxers to piss blood for a day or two after tough bouts. The left hook to the liver is the most lethal punch in combat sports -- it paralyzes any human.

Again, you're seeing the dramatic blows of UFC and thinking it's more violent. That's no different than seeing a defensive back crush a receiver, causing you to think, "Damn, playing in the secondary is really dangerous," when the truth is that offensive and defensive linemen are getting concussive blows to their heads nearly every play. Yet few even think much about the violence in the trenches that occurs on EVERY play.

[pk500]

Some more numbers for you, Rod:

Holly Holm landed 38 strikes on Ronda Rousey last night. Rousey landed 21 on Holm.

David Lemieux absorbed 280 punches from Gennady "GGG" Golovkin in their middleweight boxing match last month. Andre Berto ate 232 punches from Floyd Mayweather in their bout earlier this year.

Now, who is absorbing more punishment, and which sport is more violent?

I rest my case.

[Diablo25]

UFC sucks.

Word. And boxing is FAR more violent than UFC. Boxers take repeated blows to the head, many more than UFC fighters. Plus, as Holm proved last night, the hardest punchers in the world are boxers, not MMA fighters.

I'll double down on Bill's accurate proclamation: UFC really sucks. Boxing forever.

Just my opinion but boxing is exponentially more entertaining and the more pure of the two. To each his own.



And UFC sucks.

[dbdynsty25]

Getting hit for 25 min with those tiny gloves and some feet and knees seems much more violent than 36 min with giant pads on your hands. Maybe it's just me.

Not a huge fan of either sport really because of all of the politics and corruption but I'll tune in occasionally.