360 HD-DVD

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:11 am

Isn't it a little too late to add to the specs? If they increased the size/specs wouldn't that basicly mean it is HD-DVD 2.0 which would mean all the current players would be useless which in turn would pretty much kill the format.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:22 am

It's unclear at this point. Lot of firmware updates promised for various things on the "Insiders" threads at AVS.

There's also talk about increasing the spin rate 50% to get higher bitrates to match Blu-Ray.

Again, this may just be a gambit to pry loose one of the Blu-Ray-exclusive studios.

But if that doesn't happen, they may not bother to put it in the spec. At least that appears to have been the case with HD-DVD-45 TL (triple-layer).

Well if they obsolete all HD-DVD players sold thus far, maybe they rationalize it as not affecting that many people. In exchange, if they get another major studio or two, it leads to greater sales.

Kissrox · Post by **Kissrox** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:15 pm

Thinking of picking one up this weekend. What would be a great movie to view in HD? I want to wow my wife. I was thinking Saving Private Ryan (is it out in HD). Any other titles people are going gaga over in HD??

seanmac31 · Post by **seanmac31** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:23 pm

Kissrox wrote:Thinking of picking one up this weekend. What would be a great movie to view in HD? I want to wow my wife. I was thinking Saving Private Ryan (is it out in HD). Any other titles people are going gaga over in HD??

If your wife really enjoys watching people be blown up...

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:03 pm

Kissrox wrote:Thinking of picking one up this weekend. What would be a great movie to view in HD? I want to wow my wife. I was thinking Saving Private Ryan (is it out in HD). Any other titles people are going gaga over in HD??

All you gotta do is read this thread...it has all of the must have titles in it.

Kissrox · Post by **Kissrox** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:31 am

seanmac31 wrote:
Kissrox wrote:Thinking of picking one up this weekend. What would be a great movie to view in HD? I want to wow my wife. I was thinking Saving Private Ryan (is it out in HD). Any other titles people are going gaga over in HD??
If your wife really enjoys watching people be blown up...

Actually, she really like the movie.

Kissrox · Post by **Kissrox** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:40 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:
Kissrox wrote:Thinking of picking one up this weekend. What would be a great movie to view in HD? I want to wow my wife. I was thinking Saving Private Ryan (is it out in HD). Any other titles people are going gaga over in HD??
All you gotta do is read this thread...it has all of the must have titles in it.

I was hoping for a larger selection of must haves...I think about five movies are mentioned in the thread.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:22 am

Kissrox wrote:
dbdynsty25 wrote:
Kissrox wrote:Thinking of picking one up this weekend. What would be a great movie to view in HD? I want to wow my wife. I was thinking Saving Private Ryan (is it out in HD). Any other titles people are going gaga over in HD??
All you gotta do is read this thread...it has all of the must have titles in it.
I was hoping for a larger selection of must haves...I think about five movies are mentioned in the thread.

Only problem is there aren't THAT many movies available.

Kissrox · Post by **Kissrox** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 6:11 pm

They get more and more each week, but you are right. That is why I want to get something that really showcases HD. I watched MI:3 preview on the 360 in HD (downloaded it from the Marketplace) and it was amazing...I really enjoyed the movie too. I might get that...who knows. I'll browse the selection at the time of purchase and see what strikes me....

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:38 pm

If you still don't own one, maybe this is the time to do so:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158163

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:58 pm

10spro wrote:If you still don't own one, maybe this is the time to do so:

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3158163

Why would you want to buy it if HD-DVD is getting destroyed? I personally think HD-DVD will be fine...because, like Windows, MS loves it and they will eventually just start dropping HD-DVD drives in every PC that leaves Dell, Gateway, etc.

bkrich83 · Post by **bkrich83** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:02 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:
I personally think HD-DVD will be fine...because, like Windows, MS loves it and they will eventually just start dropping HD-DVD drives in every PC that leaves Dell, Gateway, etc.

Exactly.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 2:58 pm

Huge news HD vs Blu-Ray war:

http://cbs2.com/local/local_story_232140113.html

I still can't believe it.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:05 pm

It is a big deal.

Otherwise, HD-DVD would have gone through this Christmas without any blockbusters.

Toshiba may have paid as much as $150 million to both studios.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:07 pm

Money talks. Bad news for Sony.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:09 pm

Yeah, that's a huge get for HD-DVD...should keep them around a little longer if nothing else.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:22 pm

U read so much 'blu ray is kicking HD's ass' press, it was interesting to read this:

"Standalone HD DVD players have a bigger slice of the market than Blu-ray players. But when you count Sony's PlayStation 3 game console, which comes with a Blu-ray drive, there are more Blu-ray players in U.S. homes.

Rob Moore, president of Paramount Worldwide Distribution, said market data shows that people who own gaming consoles buy fewer movies than those who invest in a movie-only player."

I just wish either 1)one side wins (no preference who) or 2)dual format DVD players get real cheap real fast... what a mess.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 3:41 pm

Well Toshiba has basically been dumping players for under $300 for a couple of months now.

But perhaps it finally recognized that content is more important than hardware prices.

Still, at some stores, the combined sales of several Blu-Ray brands have been outselling Toshiba, because Toshiba is a second-tier brand to some buyers.

If it's true that Toshiba paid $150 million for this deal, that could set up a bidding war for Warners, which has had the biggest-selling HD movies so far.

warnerwlf98 · Post by **warnerwlf98** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:39 pm

I'm thinking about getting the HD-DVD drive for the 360. How much power does the drive need? Thanks.

I need to know how many fuses I'll be blowing in the future

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:02 pm

I was thinking of selling my HD and just use the PS3 until this. I guess I'll keep it a bit longer, anyone tried any of those hybrid machines yet (not sure if they' are out) where they're supposed to play both formats?

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:34 pm

10spro wrote:I was thinking of selling my HD and just use the PS3 until this. I guess I'll keep it a bit longer, anyone tried any of those hybrid machines yet (not sure if they' are out) where they're supposed to play both formats?

No idea of their quality, but I think the cheapest one is $1,200 - yikes.

Airdog · Post by **Airdog** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 10:02 pm

I think only LG has a player that plays both and is easily found at consumer electronic outlets, although it lacks the interactive portions found in HD-DVD discs (it retains the BD Java functionality for Blu-Disc).

Samsung has been threatening to release a player that does both with full interactivity and it looks like it may be out in US markets for Christmas of 2007. A link to a Gizmodo hands on:

http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/bd_up5000/

They think it's better than the LG one already released. Then again, it's also listening for $1050 USD at the moment.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 6:49 pm

Blu Ray fires back! Boom!

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-976341 ... =cnetfd.mt

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:00 pm

Lot of spinning going on.

Spielburg is reportedly a Blu-Ray fan and the only movie of his announced for either format is Close Encounters for Blu-Ray. Apparently, his preference vetoed any of his films from being included in the Paramount/Dreamworks Animation deal.

Or Toshiba/MS just didn't pay him off.

Michael Bay supposedly was vocal about his opposition to the deal. Obviously doesn't have the same clout as Spielburg because Transformers is one of the key titles.

The $150 million is suppose to be for 18 months.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 7:38 pm

sportdan30 wrote:Blu Ray fires back! Boom!

http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-976341 ... =cnetfd.mt

That's not much of a counter-move. According to my pals at fox, they are making both formats, but blu-ray will be released first. Kinda like the GTA ps2 & xbox deals.

The best part is: everyone loses! it's getting reeeedikulous.