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Not sure who won but this is my favorite course ever, has been in any gold game. I usually shoot -7-10 on this course but for some reason in round 1 I put a few in the water and was even and round 2 I was distracted and shot over par I think. Managed to get it under par for the event only 20 strokes behind Vader lol

Still one of the best tracks out there, greens can be challenging if on the wrong side but not super tricked up to increase scores.
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Danimal wrote:Not sure who won but this is my favorite course ever, has been in any gold game. I usually shoot -7-10 on this course but for some reason in round 1 I put a few in the water and was even and round 2 I was distracted and shot over par I think. Managed to get it under par for the event only 20 strokes behind Vader lol

Still one of the best tracks out there, greens can be challenging if on the wrong side but not super tricked up to increase scores.
Agreed. Def one of my favorite courses to play in the game. Challenging w/ the wind and the greens are tough but fair.
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To anybody who cares...which is nobody, but I have to post this to save my sanity.

I found the "dead zone" problem I was experiencing (that nobody else was). I noticed The Division 2 had drastically different controls and feel on XBox than it did on PC with the Elite Controller (I have 2 different controllers, one that just stays connected to my PC, and one to my Xbox). I used Right-Stick swing in TGC 2019.

Turns out, several months back, I had read something online about setting the right-stick profile to "Smooth" or something for FPS games, and it had been on that ever since. So it had a normal response in close, but at about 50% stick, it stopped responding, and lessened my input drastically. This is why I'd be pulling back, but as soon as I hit that, the controller thought I slowed down, and led to a lot of bizarre swings and strange feedback even though my right stick movement was consistent.

I went into the Xbox controller app when I found the Division behaving strangely, too, and found the stick profile. Felt like an idiot, so thanks for everybody who told me it didn't happen for them. I'd have probably written this off forever thinking it was purely a game issue, and it was my own setting I changed so long ago that I forgot it was even there.
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Danimal wrote:Not sure who won but this is my favorite course ever, has been in any gold game. I usually shoot -7-10 on this course but for some reason in round 1 I put a few in the water and was even and round 2 I was distracted and shot over par I think. Managed to get it under par for the event only 20 strokes behind Vader lol

Still one of the best tracks out there, greens can be challenging if on the wrong side but not super tricked up to increase scores.
Jozarus won this one at -30, and I think Vader was something like -23 or 4. I wound up in third at like -17. Your comments about the course are on the mark though. It's a great course in real life and this might be my favorite rendition of it on any of the golf games on which I've played it. It can play tough but never feels "tricked up".
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TCrouch wrote:Turns out, several months back, I had read something online about setting the right-stick profile to "Smooth" or something for FPS games, and it had been on that ever since. So it had a normal response in close, but at about 50% stick, it stopped responding, and lessened my input drastically. This is why I'd be pulling back, but as soon as I hit that, the controller thought I slowed down, and led to a lot of bizarre swings and strange feedback even though my right stick movement was consistent.

I can relate to this. I tried all of the other sensitivity options available to the Elite controller, including "Smooth", for The Golf Club 2 and later 2019. It was problematic in both games, but especially in TGC 2019, where it wreaked havoc on tempo management. I would have turned my Elite controller into an unidentifiable mass of plastic and metal if I had to play TGC 2019 with an Elite controller set to "Smooth" on the swing stick for more than a couple of hours :)
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A note about tomorrow's 3/19/19 round at Purgatory Golf Club. The course's creator used a new user created app that allows designers on the PC version to use Lidar data to create the courses topography. He was able to find the Lidar data for the real course and built his course on that. It has a very special feel, as you can sense the natural look of it at every spot on the course.

I played a practice round there today and finished at +3, but I was so much in awe of the environment that I wasn't paying enough attention to the golf. Still, I think I'll be happy to break par there tomorrow.

I hope to see more of the PC designers use this app, as I think it produced remarkable results with this course!
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J_Cauthen wrote:A note about tomorrow's 3/19/19 round at Purgatory Golf Club. The course's creator used a new user created app that allows designers on the PC version to use Lidar data to create the courses topography. He was able to find the Lidar data for the real course and built his course on that. It has a very special feel, as you can sense the natural look of it at every spot on the course
This is honest to God the first time I felt like the course was real.

I need to know more John, how does this work. Do I need the PC version to use it? I would love to do this for my home course.
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Danimal wrote:
J_Cauthen wrote:A note about tomorrow's 3/19/19 round at Purgatory Golf Club. The course's creator used a new user created app that allows designers on the PC version to use Lidar data to create the courses topography. He was able to find the Lidar data for the real course and built his course on that. It has a very special feel, as you can sense the natural look of it at every spot on the course
This is honest to God the first time I felt like the course was real.

I need to know more John, how does this work. Do I need the PC version to use it? I would love to do this for my home course.
You have to have the PC version for this Lidar, user created app to work. Here's a link to a video that shows how this Lidar app works, courtesy of TGC Tours.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nd_YuHp ... e=youtu.be (You'll need to FF to 31:00 to get to the segment on Lidar)

Purgatory GC definitely had a naturally unique atmosphere. BTW, I found another highly rated Lidar course for today's Daily... Nicklaus Course at Reunion Resort. I haven't played it yet, but people are making similar comments about it. I wish they could figure out a way to get this user created app for Lidar implementation to the consoles, but that would be a tall order unless HBS can figure out a way to get it added in an update, or include it in the next version of the game.
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Last week's 72 holer took its toll on me. I've always struggled with putting at Copperhead, and that tournament was no different. It's a good, fair course though... it just owns me! Good win by Vader, with a score that's off the charts... nice work!

You guys will want to tar and feather me for today's daily at the German course. It was on my Friend's Favorites and looked good on the splash screen, but there's a friggin' tree in the middle of almost every fairway, with the first hole being the worst offender. The course has some nice scenery and great wild grass planting, but as a golf course it leaves a lot to be desired.

I'll have another LiDAR course that's playable on the slate for tomorrow to make up for this :wink:
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J_Cauthen wrote:Last week's 72 holer took its toll on me. I've always struggled with putting at Copperhead, and that tournament was no different. It's a good, fair course though... it just owns me! Good win by Vader, with a score that's off the charts... nice work!

You guys will want to tar and feather me for today's daily at the German course. It was on my Friend's Favorites and looked good on the splash screen, but there's a friggin' tree in the middle of almost every fairway, with the first hole being the worst offender. The course has some nice scenery and great wild grass planting, but as a golf course it leaves a lot to be desired.

I'll have another LiDAR course that's playable on the slate for tomorrow to make up for this :wink:
Pretty course alright, lot of ups and down, it wasn’t so much the trees that bothered me although it was overdone, but hole #12 that killed me. Took a quadruple as I was trying to get off from a tough rough lie. Used a gap edge, tried to flop the shot but he result was the same. The speed of the greens on that hole would bring me back to where I was. At one point, my shot seem to finally stick within 6-7 feet of the flag but after 2 seconds it came humbly back to my feet. :evil:
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10spro wrote:Pretty course alright, lot of ups and down, it wasn’t so much the trees that bothered me although it was overdone, but hole #12 that killed me. Took a quadruple as I was trying to get off from a tough rough lie. Used a gap edge, tried to flop the shot but he result was the same. The speed of the greens on that hole would bring me back to where I was. At one point, my shot seem to finally stick within 6-7 feet of the flag but after 2 seconds it came humbly back to my feet. :evil:
I can see how that could have happened on #12... I played to avoid bogey rather than make a birdie.

We've got the "Cypress Point of the East", The Fishers Island Club, in New York, presented in full LiDAR splendor today. It's not an overly difficult course, but it has its spots.
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Nice win at the Valero Joz... I fell asleep after the third round and didn't get to play my fourth round. I'd played myself out of it in the third round anyway, with a 5-putt and 2 4-putt greens. Think I wound up shooting par for the round somehow. There were some brutal pin placements in round 3, but that doesn't change the fact that my putting still sucks! :oops:

A note about today's tournament... the course, Sonny's Willow Run was made by friendBOMBER, who's credited with some great RCR's. This is a real course in South Dakota and it was made using LiDAR data. It's not a PGA type challenge, but it feels and looks so dang real. I hope you all enjoy it.
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We've got another tournament set today at another LiDAR course. This one is Cherokee Country Club. I'd have to list it among my top ten LiDAR courses, even though it is a bit short... 6,350 off the black tees. It still can bite you as I had 4 bogeys in my 4 under par round.
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J_Cauthen wrote:Nice win at the Valero Joz... I fell asleep after the third round and didn't get to play my fourth round. I'd played myself out of it in the third round anyway, with a 5-putt and 2 4-putt greens. Think I wound up shooting par for the round somehow. There were some brutal pin placements in round 3, but that doesn't change the fact that my putting still sucks! :oops:


A note about today's tournament... the course, Sonny's Willow Run was made by friendBOMBER, who's credited with some great RCR's. This is a real course in South Dakota and it was made using LiDAR data. It's not a PGA type challenge, but it feels and looks so dang real. I hope you all enjoy it.
Thanks John. I was wondering if that score would hold up. Wish I could have played yesterday's course. I'll have to give it a go.
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JOZ wrote:Thanks John. I was wondering if that score would hold up.
I'd have to have shot a 62 in that final round to tie you... and even on my best day that wasn't going to happen on that course!

Today's course is a recently released version of Shinnecock Hills (US Open version). I thought it had a LiDAR foundation, but it's not. Still, it's a beautiful rendition of the course and a superb challenge... especially in today's high wind conditions. I think if anyone breaks par on this course today, they'll probably win the tournament!

I five starred the course and "Favorited" it; it's even better than the same designer's TGC 2 version of Shinnecock Hills!
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I've been playing with Master Clubs for a few weeks now.

Oddly enough my scores have been better. Still not top of the leader board better, but better. :D
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Yeah that version of Shinnecock was rough. It wasn't so much the wind, it was the greens. Those things were TOUGH and fast.
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dbdynsty25 wrote:Yeah that version of Shinnecock was rough. It wasn't so much the wind, it was the greens. Those things were TOUGH and fast.
Yeah I was +1 which felt good and I had a 8 foot downhill put, it read 2 inches down hill. I barely touched it and I had a 29 footer coming back. At that point I speed played the round and didn't give a s***.

Why these guys are incapable or unwilling to fix their putting physics is beyond me.

I was also expecting to play the Augusta Par 3 yesterday LOL
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I agree. I love the game, but putting can be very frustrating at times. You can have a 10' putt that is 2 inches uphill and it acts like you are putting in mud. Next hole you can have a similar putt and the ball come off the putter like it's shot from a cannon. The weird thing to me is that it is solid most of the time. It just happens to me every now and then.

Do any of you sometimes have the ball shoot left or right immediately even thought your line shows straight up and down? I have that happen too. It's rare, but does happen.

Also hate when the course creators obviously trick out the greens to increase scores.
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Toughest rendition of the Masters that I had played yet. The medium settings in the greens were accurate for most of the time, yet I had some real slow turns along some unexpected quick ones.

Watching the event at Augusta it’s incredible how well guys like Michelson and Tiger are hitting it today, B. Koepka and DeChambeau are just murdering the ball so far.

I am still struggling with my swing in the game and it’s been like that for awhile now, really struggling in Augusta so far.
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As someone who has been to Augusta and watched the Masters that course we are playing is an exaggeration (and that is being nice) of how tight the course is.

I was +4 after round 1 which I was thrilled with considering the layout. It went downhill from there and after 3 rounds I was like +30. I don't know if I will finish or not. I'm just so frustrated with this game, I wonder if anybody has ever played golf with no wind because every TGC course has wind and much like the greens it is inconsistent. You can be hitting into a 11 mpg head wind to a downhill green and end up 30 yards short. Then could be hitting into the same wind with an uphill approach and go one club up and shoot it 20 yards over the green. Wind effects pitch shots, yeah ok...

I also try to play with the top players ghosts not only here but in other tournaments and the consistent thing is they use loft and shot shaping and know how to play the bounce. Sure golf sometimes is about hitting a certain side of the fairway for the roll, or playing the front of the green because it is firm but in this game it is like every hole.

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Danimal wrote:I've been playing with Master Clubs for a few weeks now.

Oddly enough my scores have been better. Still not top of the leader board better, but better. :D
I was playing with your ghost ball in the previous tournament and noticed you were usually 10 to 12 yards ahead of everyone. You were keeping it in play just as well as I was with Pro clubs, from what I could see. I'd like to get back to Master clubs full time eventually. The game feels more dynamic and I get more gratification out of a really good round when I use them.
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dbdynsty25 wrote:Yeah that version of Shinnecock was rough. It wasn't so much the wind, it was the greens. Those things were TOUGH and fast.
Yeah I was +1 which felt good and I had a 8 foot downhill put, it read 2 inches down hill. I barely touched it and I had a 29 footer coming back. At that point I speed played the round and didn't give a s***.

Why these guys are incapable or unwilling to fix their putting physics is beyond me.

I was also expecting to play the Augusta Par 3 yesterday LOL
I wonder if Shinnecock is truly as fast as it played with the default (firm/firm/fast) settings we had yesterday? The putt you are referring to seems to reflect a questionable pin placement. I must have had an uphiller on whatever hole that was, otherwise I'd have likely been bitten by the same fortune.

I think they're incapable of getting the kind of putting physics we're seeking. They have gotten moderately better over the three titles, but still have room for improvement, IMO.

Yeah, sorry about the lack of the par 3 tournament at Augusta yesterday; I simply forgot about it. Vader does the 72 hole weeklies and I handle the Monday through Wednesday tournaments, so I missed this one. I'll schedule it for this coming Monday, while the Masters is still on our minds.
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Danimal wrote:As someone who has been to Augusta and watched the Masters that course we are playing is an exaggeration (and that is being nice) of how tight the course is.
This is my first time playing this iteration of Augusta National, and I agree with you. This version has the trees forming an exaggeratedly narrow tunnel on many holes: 7, 11, 14, 17 and 18 being the worst offenders... Number 11 looks like a parody of the real 11th hole 8O

The best version of Augusta National I've seen to date - by far - is by Craig LeVasseur (theclv24). It's titled "Magnolia National (Tour)". I'd like to read your thoughts on it after you've played it.
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TGC19 Finally released for SkyTrak simulator. Soooo tempted to pull the trigger.

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