NHL Playoffs 09. Drop The Puck.

Jimmydeicide · Post by **Jimmydeicide** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 3:53 pm

XXXIV wrote:I just cant imgaine a player that is harder to dislike than Malkin.

Ovechkin maybe? You have a limited imagination.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:04 pm

Jimmydeicide wrote:
XXXIV wrote:I just cant imgaine a player that is harder to dislike than Malkin.

Ovechkin maybe? You have a limited imagination.

....That I does.

Draws are acceptable

toonarmy · Post by **toonarmy** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:12 pm

fletcher21 wrote:
toonarmy wrote: Some of you are so wishy-washy it's not even funny. Malkin goes from a good scorer to the most complete player in the NHL in the span of a couple months. Wow!
I wonder what you would have said if the Pens got drilled 6-1. My guess is nothing. .

And I wonder what all the people singing his praises now would have said about his greatness? That's right -- nothing.

toonarmy · Post by **toonarmy** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:17 pm

fletcher21 wrote:
pk500 wrote: I'm sorry we're not all the rink Kreskin. Keep patting yourself on the back; you're good at it.

Take care,
PK
Fatality! FINISH HIM!!

Still waiting on the supposed videos of your racing career that you promised would make me apologize to you for calling you out as being FOS. You're real good at riding on the backs of others and talking all sorts of crap about yourself, yet you never seem to be able to produce the goods. Come on, Fletcher, make me apologize for calling you out like you promised. (just busting you're chops btw, all in good fun -- I'd still like to see you're racing career highlights though

).

fletcher21 · Post by **fletcher21** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:49 pm

Can't do it. It's evidence

Countdown to Nhl pre-season stars now.. Another boring summer of Mlb

Naples39 · Post by **Naples39** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:52 pm

XXXIV wrote:I read this board. When someone here discusses people hating I naturally assume it refers to people on this board not some board Ive never heard of.

I just cant imgaine a player that is harder to dislike than Malkin.

I hate Malkin, and said so in this very thread 2 months ago.

Malkin is a beast. Everyone know hows skilled he is, but I never appreciated how big and strong he is until watching him in person.

Unlike most Flyers fans, I don't bear much hatred for Crosby. He's a cryer but he works hard and keeps those legs churning more than any player in the league. While Crosby takes all the attention, Malkin is the real enemy; a hugely talented and physically large player, he has grossly outperformed Crosby in these playoffs, and he's always been a weasel responding to physical play with cheap shots and slashes.

It's been a running joke with me and my friends since last season how Malkin is my mortal enemy because the guy drives me nuts.

I see no reason to change anything I said then in light of the rest of the playoffs since.

Malkin are Crosby are similarly skilled; Crosby usually works harder but Malkin is bigger with a much better shot. I'd still take Ovechkin over either of the 2, but as I have for a while, I rate those 3 the top 3 players in the league, and the order of who's 1-2-3 is pretty irrelevant.

Congratulations Pens. May the Flyers get revenge on your asses next season!

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:56 pm

toonarmy wrote:Surely Malkin's performance will put to rest all the haters who seem to think Ovechkin is so superior. Let's see: regular season points leader, playoff points leader, Conn Smythe, Stanley Cup. Even when Malkin was not scoring in the payoffs he was playing hard, good defense and was drawing attention to open up other guys on offense. It's scary to think what kind of points he would have put up if his line wasn't crap for a good part of the regular season and the Pens did not have a moron coach for most of the season.

Personally, I don't dislike Geno one bit, he's a great skillful player, soft hands and when he wants to show his potential he's among the best. Malkin was pretty much invisible during the series with Philly, had lapses against WAS and we all know how he did during last year' finals. Don't know what it's with him but it seems that he can only elevate his game when he's feeling the pressure and the odds are against him and his team. A wake up call if you will. A professional like him should be constantly motivated and show up on a regular basis.

Maybe it's a Russian thing, but what I'd like to see in him is that power, that concentration, that fire that he showed in the latter part of the playoffs on a more consistent basis which made him eventually a Conn Smythe winner. If he played with that intensity all the time, it's scary then what he could accomplish.

I assume that you're calling M. Therrien a moron. Why is that? Didn't he just carry this team to the finals last year? Can he possibly forget how to coach all of the sudden or was it more his style of play (defense first) that eventually the star players tuned out? That doesn't make him a moron, the team was struggling, new blood was needed to save the season. Plain and simple.

Look at all the coaching changes the NHL has gone thru this year and when I look at the new bench bosses, almost 60% of the teams have gone through a coaching change already. That's amazing. The only moron that I can think of is G. Bettman and I guess those feelings are shared wherever his goes.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:57 pm

Naples39 wrote:
I hate Malkin, and said so in this very thread 2 months ago.

You sir are an evil bastard.

I think I understand...I once hated Joe Montana.

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:14 pm

Congrats again to all Pens fans, especially on this board. As a neutral observer, I really enjoyed the finals this year and the best two teams battled it to the end. However, I am skeptic to believe whether PIT was the better team. As we all know this game is a game of bounces, sometimes luck but in general skill and speed usually prevails.

DET got all the bounces in the first two games of the series at home, I don't think PIT was playing badly but they didn't get the bounces. Go back to games 3 and four and just the exact opposite was happening. Both teams were evenly matched although I have to say that the injuries to key players like Datsyuk, Ericsson, Draper and earlier to their captain N. Lidstrom was a huge disadvantage for DET. I gotta believe that M. Hossa was not 100% either, how can one explain his ineffectiveness for so long while making 8 million big ones this season.

The athleticism of M.A. Fleury beat the savvy goaltending of C. Osgood and in the end that was the difference IMO. Those two miraculous saves with 6-7 seconds to go were outstanding and made them champions. He was also a bit fortunate with a minute and a half to go when Zetterberg hit the crossbar.

In any case a great playoff year, can't wait for the season to begin already, hope that the Yotes find a new home, a home where fans care and #99 feels appreciated.

Maybe Sid the Kid got himself wrapped up all in the moment, but did he not shake N. Lidstrom hands intentionally?

Gangrel · Post by **Gangrel** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 5:46 pm

10spro wrote:
Maybe Sid the Kid got himself wrapped up all in the moment, but did he not shake N. Lidstrom hands intentionally?

The story as far as I know was that Sid and some other Pens were celebrating, and Detroit lined up to shake hands, Lidstrom first. Apparently Wings waited, and waited, and then started shaking hands.... so that when Crosby finally came over, there was only a few Wings left.

I saw a pretty scathing quote from Kris Draper about it on TSN....

"DETROIT -- The Red Wings can accept that Pittsburgh is the Stanley Cup champion. Getting snubbed by Sidney Crosby is another matter.

After watching Pittsburgh hoist the Cup on Detroit's ice, the Red Wings lined up to shake hands with the Penguins as is custom in the NHL playoffs.

Detroit captain Nicklas Lidstrom was up front, followed by alternate captain Kris Draper, congratulating many of the new champions while waiting for Pittsburgh's captain.

"Nick was waiting and waiting, and Crosby didn't come over to shake his hand," Draper told an Associated Press reporter a couple hours later as he was leaving Joe Louis Arena. "That's ridiculous, especially as their captain, and make sure you write that I said that!"

Crosby eventually skated over to shake hands with the Red Wings, but many had already headed for the dressing room. Detroit forward Johan Franzen and Crosby exchanged words and Crosby then shook hands with goaltender Chris Osgood and some other Detroit players."

Copied from the article...

toonarmy · Post by **toonarmy** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:26 pm

10spro wrote: I assume that you're calling M. Therrien a moron. Why is that? Didn't he just carry this team to the finals last year? Can he possibly forget how to coach all of the sudden or was it more his style of play (defense first) that eventually the star players tuned out? That doesn't make him a moron, the team was struggling, new blood was needed to save the season. Plain and simple.

Look at all the coaching changes the NHL has gone thru this year and when I look at the new bench bosses, almost 60% of the teams have gone through a coaching change already. That's amazing. The only moron that I can think of is G. Bettman and I guess those feelings are shared wherever his goes.

I am not sure how much you watched the Pens this year, but MT's lines and coaching decisions were baffling at best. The players absolutely hated the guy, not only for his style but also on a personal level. The team put up with it last year and did their best under the circumstances, but this year they had enough of his foolishness and it showed on the ice. The Pens looked like they were not even going to make the playoffs, then MT was fired. It's quite telling that a guy from the AHL with no NHL head coaching experience came in and the team became incredibly hot and secured a much higher seed than even their fans expected. Then, as the playoffs progressed and Bylsma got more comfortable with things, the team really came together and the rest is history. I am a HOF Boards junkie and followed the Pens board somewhat during the season, as well as watched a bunch of their games. I am not alone in thinking MT is a certified moron. He showed time and time again with his decisions and ability to get a pretty nice bunch of players to hate him that he is not very good head coaching material. We shall see if he does in the anything in the future.

Naples39 · Post by **Naples39** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:52 pm

Fans on a message board declaring a coach a moron? This is unprecedented, and is clearly powerful evidence that a coach is no good.

I've NEVER been to a sports message board where at least a vocal majority did not think the current head coach of any team was a total idiot.

In pro sports today, the day a coach is fired just takes him one day closer to the day he is fired. Management hires the guy whose message/style they think will maximize results with the current psyche of team, then discard the coach as soon as a new message/style is required to a largely unchanged group of players. This year's Pens are no exception to the persistent pattern, and if in a season or two they become undisciplined or leaky defensively, Bylsma will be the 'idiot' and the new guy will be the savior.

nyisles16 · Post by **nyisles16** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:52 am

Well, there goes the NHL. Sid the Wuss won the cup.. UGH!!

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:15 am

nyisles16 wrote:Sid the Wuss won the cup.. UGH!!

Get used to it.

fletcher21 · Post by **fletcher21** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:51 am

Crosby showed me a lot in these playoffs. People loev to hate him, just like A Rod and Kobe in other sports. But there's a common theme. All 3 of them are top 5 in their sport. Sidney may be a whiner and complainer, but when have ya ever heard about him getting in trouble with the law or having 12 kids by 10 women? If his biggest fault is crying on the ice, we should be happy. He's young and wants to win. I didn't like the guy before, but that was without really knowing anything about him. The playoffs changed my opinion of him. Do I want to go buy a Crosby jersey? No. But do I still think he's a b*tch? Nope. Perhaps the people who really hate him are just jealous.

Jimmydeicide · Post by **Jimmydeicide** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:23 pm

I havnt seen much crying or whining from him the guy was a rock in these playoffs hes only 21 and lead his team to the win the Cup, he really did lead as well especially by example.

Hes only elevated his status in my book. Lets not forget what a moaner the great one was.

Feanor · Post by **Feanor** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:38 pm

I don't think Arod belongs in a group with Crosby and Kobe who both won their first championships when they were 21 years old.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:53 pm

Feanor wrote:I don't think Arod belongs in a group with Crosby and Kobe who both won their first championships when they were 21 years old.

Don't think Kobe or Sid have admitted they've used performance-enhancing drugs, either.

Take care,
PK

tjung0831 · Post by **tjung0831** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:25 pm

I'll never understand the hate for Crosby. I was so happy to see that kid raise the cup and that he got to do it in a Penguins uniform and not a Ducks uniform.

Tim

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:02 pm

pk500 wrote:
Don't think Kobe or Sid have admitted they've used performance-enhancing drugs, either.

Take care,
PK

Exactly.. Arod no longer belongs in any thread that mentions great young players.

nyisles16 · Post by **nyisles16** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:43 pm

Leebo33 wrote:
nyisles16 wrote:Sid the Wuss won the cup.. UGH!!
Get used to it.

No thanks.. the only Pen I am glad to see his name on the cup is Bill Gueren

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:47 pm

Better the Penguins than the Red Wings.

Sudz · Post by **Sudz** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:48 pm

Hulu has all the games available in full.

tjung0831 · Post by **tjung0831** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:39 pm

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:05 am

The Stanley Cup takes a dip in Mario Lemieux's pool at a party over the weekend:

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_ ... bBD73tMJNN.

Cool!

Take care,
PK