NHL Playoffs 09. Drop The Puck.

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Forget the cliches. No "statement game." No "back against the wall." No "momentum swings." Those are all piss-poor ways to describe a GREAT hockey game.

This was a man's game. Nothing was pretty. Every player on Pittsburgh committed to the body, which was the key to their wins in Games 3 and 4. When I saw Petr Sykora drop to block a shot and throw a few body checks, I knew every player on the Pens was all in tonight.

Pittsburgh also succeeded because it dominated the possession tussles along the boards, just as it did in Games 3 and 4.

McGuire and Olcyzk were correct: Brooks Orpik should have been one of the three stars tonight. He should have been the first star if not for the giveaway that led to the Cleary breakaway late in the third. Otherwise, Orpik played as sound a game defensively that I've seen in these playoffs. He did so many things away from the puck, such as seal Zetterberg away from a juicy rebound late in the third, that often go unnoticed.

Fleury was excellent, but Osgood was even better. As many of us have said in here, the dude makes the big saves. And he was forced to make a lot of them tonight. He kept Detroit afloat tonight.

What's odd is that Crosby remained quiet tonight. Could the guy finally have a breakout game in Game 7? And what about Hossa? Right now, he is on the Finals' equivalent of a milk carton -- missing.

The key for Pittsburgh Friday night is discipline. The Pens were very composed in the first two periods, with no penalties. They ground away along the wall and hit every Wings' player in sight without infractions. They weren't baited into much sword play and pushing after the whistles.

In other words, Pittsburgh looked a lot like Detroit in the first two periods. A mature, composed team.

But Pittsburgh started to fray a bit in the third, committing some undisciplined penalties. The Pens also were caught scrambling under the weight of Detroit's pressure late in the game.

The Pens must play all three periods Friday like the first two tonight -- disciplined, physical, simple hockey -- if they are to have a chance to hoist the mug. Otherwise, Detroit wins the Cup.

Roll on Game 7! :)

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XXXIV wrote:What a finish!!!

Game 7 baby! Game 7!
Great game 6. I thought the Pens played very well the first 30 minutes of the game, getting to those tight corners first, keeping DET to the outside while playing a very patient and opportunistic game style. M.A. Fleury was just superb with key saves, none more important that with 1:40 left when he just stoned D. Cleary on a breakaway. If they win game 7, that save will be remember as key.

DET played better for the remaining 30 minutes of the game but just couldn't penetrate deep enough into the Pens' zone. Fleury was good also on rebounds and any Hockey fan gotta love a game 7 in a Stanley Cup finals.

I picked DET in 7 and I'll stick to that.
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Can this series be any better? The games have been intense and fast. The play has been fluid. The talent level is fairly even overall. As bad as Pitt has been at Detroit, I hope they can muster up something and make for a close exciting game 7. This season and playoffs have been very enjoyable.
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Has anyone seen Mr M. Hossa? Will he regret his move or will he finally come thru in game seven for his new team?
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I cannot wait until Friday...
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It didn't take long for the new GM in Dallas to hire a new coach after firing Tippet yesterday. Bye bye conservative style and welcome open, risky Hockey in M. Crawford. Joe Nieuwendyk will do fine in his new position.
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Predictions for tonight


4-2 DET, but I'd rather see Pitt win.
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It's been an epic series and I wish that they can continue to provide us with all the excitement. I am saying DET 3-2 and in OT.
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Intense!.....Another great finish! in what turned into a great final. :D

Gratz to the Penguins....and to the city of Pittsburgh for the double that matters to me NFL/NHL :P

EDIT: Gratz to Malkin on the MVP and to Crosby on being youngest captain to hoist the Cup.
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What a year to be a Pittsburgh sports fan.. you lucky dogs!!!
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Congrats to the Pens. STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS!

What a bizarre game for Detroit. The Wings never seemed to have any jump until the third period. Very odd considering they were playing Game 7 at home.

Hell, it looked like a preseason game at times for Detroit. No flow, way too many offsides, etc. I'm really surprised that Detroit didn't show up until the third.

Talbot's second goal was soft. Osgood left way too much of the top corner open. But Ericsson's goal also was soft, as Talbot was way too deep in the crease against a slap shot from the point.

But Talbot redeemed himself with those last two saves after the final draw. A double-push to slide across the crease and stop the final shot off his chest -- wow!

It's great for the game that Pittsburgh has won the Cup. Nothing against Detroit, as that team is pure class. But the NHL needs its young superstars Crosby and Malkin in the shop window so more people can learn what a wonderful sport and incredibly entertaining league this is.

The saddest day of the sports year comes for me Sunday and Monday night. I go to the program guide and see no live hockey. It kills me every year. It's the longest four months of my sports year, with ease.

Roll on to the start of the 2009-10 season. Let's hope it will be as good as the 2008-09 edition.

Next up: The draft later this month and the free-agency period that opens July 1, when major groundwork will be laid for next year's Stanley Cup champion.

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my 2 thoughts

I wonder how much money was lost betting on Detroit
Congrats HipE!
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I believe the awards are next week in Vegas, no?

The fiancee and I are heading down there tomorrow until Friday, so I'm (secretly) hoping to run into some players.

Maybe I can find Heatley and find out just why he wants out of Ottawa so badly!
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Surely Malkin's performance will put to rest all the haters who seem to think Ovechkin is so superior. Let's see: regular season points leader, playoff points leader, Conn Smythe, Stanley Cup. Even when Malkin was not scoring in the payoffs he was playing hard, good defense and was drawing attention to open up other guys on offense. It's scary to think what kind of points he would have put up if his line wasn't crap for a good part of the regular season and the Pens did not have a moron coach for most of the season.
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fletcher21 wrote:my 2 thoughts

I wonder how much money was lost betting on Detroit
Congrats HipE!
Haha, thanks! Like a couple of you mentioned, it is pretty cool to have your team win both the Super Bowl and Stanley Cup in the same year, and I believe this is the first time a city has ever done it. I guess the downside is it can't ever be this good again, but that isn't a bad problem to have :)

I don't know what to say about the game last night and series in general other than my overwhelming feeling is pride. To have Sid and Geno combine for 1 assist in the last two games and still win both speaks volumes about the team effort the Penguins gave. They impressed me so much last night with their committment to defense, with every player diving to block passes and shots every single shift. With an effort like that, they really are deserving champs.

Congratulations to Detroit too. There isn't a team I would rather have the Pens beat to win the cup, and I don't say that because I dislike the Wings. I have so much respect for their team and coach, playing against them is just so much different than any other team the Pens have played in the playoffs the past two seasons, they don't give you an inch. If you beat them, you know you have earned it, and it makes it that much more special.

And finally, congratulations to Evgeni Malkin for being the first Russian to win the Conn Smythe. He was knocked last year for disappearing in the playoffs, but I don't think anyone is going to say that anymore. From game 3 of the Washington series on he played with so much passion, and I think you have to say now he is right there with AO and Sid as being the best player in the NHL on any given night. Bravo Geno!
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toonarmy wrote:Surely Malkin's performance will put to rest all the haters who seem to think Ovechkin is so superior. .
Who hates Malkin? I havent heard from a single person that hates him.
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XXXIV wrote:
toonarmy wrote:Surely Malkin's performance will put to rest all the haters who seem to think Ovechkin is so superior. .
Who hates Malkin? I havent heard from a single person that hates him.
toonarmy is driving the Pitt bandwagon, so that should explain these phantom haters to you :lol:
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No one hates Malkin. But he did face withering criticism -- and rightfully so -- for his disappearing act in the playoffs last season. But I guess in this generation, justified criticism is mistaken as hate. It's why political and sports talk radio is filled with screamers instead of measured, smart discussion. It's why morons like Stuart Scott and Colin Cowherd have a job. Oh, well.

No one can criticize Geno now. He's the most complete player in the world, and his name is on the mug.

Hey, Hip, forgot about you last night. Sorry. Congrats, man! It's such a wonderful feeling when your team lifts the Cup! :)

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A) I am far from a Pens fan, Fletcher, err... Dale Jr.

B) You guys are foolish or very forgetful if you do not remember before the playoffs started how all the hype was on AO and Sid. How many pieces were the media doing on Malkin? Very few. How many people were talking about Malkin not being a complete player, only offensive? Most. How many people were doubting the Pens? Most. Go to HOF Boards pre-playoffs and see how many people were saying Malkin cannot perform in the big game and doesn't have what it takes to win a Cup. Hell, just read back through this thread several pages if you need to refresh your memory on the love for Ovechkin and the doubt of Malkin. Some of you are so wishy-washy it's not even funny. Malkin goes from a good scorer to the most complete player in the NHL in the span of a couple months. Wow!
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I read this board. When someone here discusses people hating I naturally assume it refers to people on this board not some board Ive never heard of.

I just cant imgaine a player that is harder to dislike than Malkin.
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pk500 wrote:Hey, Hip, forgot about you last night. Sorry. Congrats, man! It's such a wonderful feeling when your team lifts the Cup! :)

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Thanks PK! I had just started following hockey when the Pens won their first two cups, so I really couldn't appreciate them fully. The 17 years since though have been so crazy, with the bankruptcy, threatened moving of the team, winning the lottery for the right to draft Sid, finishing at the bottom so many years in a row, etc. I couldn't really ask for a better way to get back to the top than coming back from two 2-0 series deficits and beating the mighty Wings in the end. It doesn't seem like that long ago that MT was the coach, the Pens were near the bottom of the standings, and the fans were talking about tanking to get a shot at Tavares. What a difference a new coach and a few months makes!

My son (who's middle name is Calder, named for being born during Malkin's 6 goals in his first 6 NHL games streak) didn't manage to stay up for the entire game last night. This morning though, he asked me if the Penguins won as soon as he woke up, so we went downstairs and I showed him the final seconds and cup celebration on DVR. He was wide-eyed watching the celebration, and after it was over, his only concern was "so when do they get to have cake Daddy?". And when I told him I was sad because hockey is all done now, he said "that's okay Daddy, I give you a big hug!". Not a bad way to start the first day of Pittsburgh's reign as Stanley Cup champions.
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toonarmy wrote:B) You guys are foolish or very forgetful if you do not remember before the playoffs started how all the hype was on AO and Sid. How many pieces were the media doing on Malkin? Very few. How many people were talking about Malkin not being a complete player, only offensive? Most. How many people were doubting the Pens? Most. Go to HOF Boards pre-playoffs and see how many people were saying Malkin cannot perform in the big game and doesn't have what it takes to win a Cup. Hell, just read back through this thread several pages if you need to refresh your memory on the love for Ovechkin and the doubt of Malkin. Some of you are so wishy-washy it's not even funny. Malkin goes from a good scorer to the most complete player in the NHL in the span of a couple months. Wow!
Considering Malkin's performance last year in the playoffs, excuse the media and fans if they didn't have your Nostradamus-like abilities to predict Geno's turnaround this season.

How can you fault the media and fans for not focusing on Malkin? He had a great regular season -- just like last year -- but he didn't get it done in the postseason last year. This year he did.

Plus a clutch, Conn Smythe-winning performance in the crucible of the playoffs does vindicate a player as a complete talent. Did everyone in hockey acknowledge Hank Zetterberg as one of the two or three most complete forwards in the game before his Conn Smythe performance last year? No. But they do now.

Legends are made in the postseason, not the regular season. Malkin has now cemented his excellence in the eyes of all but the most caustic, and blind, skeptics -- BECAUSE HE GOT IT DONE IN THE POSTSEASON.

I'm sorry we're not all the rink Kreskin. Keep patting yourself on the back; you're good at it.

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toonarmy wrote:B) You guys are foolish or very forgetful if you do not remember before the playoffs started how all the hype was on AO and Sid. How many pieces were the media doing on Malkin? Very few. How many people were talking about Malkin not being a complete player, only offensive? Most. How many people were doubting the Pens? Most. Go to HOF Boards pre-playoffs and see how many people were saying Malkin cannot perform in the big game and doesn't have what it takes to win a Cup. Hell, just read back through this thread several pages if you need to refresh your memory on the love for Ovechkin and the doubt of Malkin. Some of you are so wishy-washy it's not even funny. Malkin goes from a good scorer to the most complete player in the NHL in the span of a couple months. Wow!
Considering Malkin's performance last year in the playoffs, excuse the media and fans if they didn't have your Nostradamus-like abilities to predict Geno's turnaround this season.

How can you fault the media and fans for not focusing on Malkin? He had a great regular season -- just like last year -- but he didn't get it done in the postseason last year. This year he did.

Plus a clutch, Conn Smythe-winning performance in the crucible of the playoffs does vindicate a player as a complete talent. Did everyone in hockey acknowledge Hank Zetterberg as one of the two or three most complete forwards in the game before his Conn Smythe performance last year? No. But they do now.

Legends are made in the postseason, not the regular season. Malkin has now cemented his excellence in the eyes of all but the most caustic, and blind, skeptics -- BECAUSE HE GOT IT DONE IN THE POSTSEASON.

I'm sorry we're not all the rink Kreskin. Keep patting yourself on the back; you're good at it.

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pk500 wrote: I'm sorry we're not all the rink Kreskin. Keep patting yourself on the back; you're good at it.

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toonarmy wrote: Some of you are so wishy-washy it's not even funny. Malkin goes from a good scorer to the most complete player in the NHL in the span of a couple months. Wow!
I wonder what you would have said if the Pens got drilled 6-1. My guess is nothing. .
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