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Rodster wrote:Try turning off "file sharing". No one knows why but when it's enabled it sometimes causes weird problems like the PS3 network settings getting reset and getting dropped from the PSN service.
Where do I find that? I looked all over the settings for the Ps3,and did not see that.
Goto SETTINGS and go all the way to the bottom to NETWORK and then disable MEDIA SHARING.
I've tried everything here,on OP Sports,and no luck. From what I can pull up on the internet,particularly Playstation.com, this could be a router issue. I've tried hooking directly wired to the modem, wired to the router,wireless,etc. I have a Dell router, but not sure how to access the program. I can access the internet as long as the game isn't booted,but once the game is on,it freezes at the load screen, and its pissing me off to no end :x All I want is the f*cking roster update.
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I wonder how unit sales on HD-DVD and Blu-Ray compare to DVD at a comparable stage.

Remember, HD-DVD launched about a year ago and Blu-Ray, a few months after that.

Blu-Ray at least has support from studios like Disney at the start, which wasn't the case for DVD.

Look at the blockbusters this year. Assuming a day and date release, Blu-Ray can look forward to Spiderman 3, the third Pirates movie and one or two others I'm forgetting which will be coming from Blu-Ray exclusive studios this year.

Unit sales this Xmas should be much higher than it's been at any time the past year. Both sides are pushing out players with promos (free movies, lower prices). HD-DVD has been behind on unit disc sales all year but a big Xmas can erase the Blu-Ray lead in unit sales.

HD-DVD pretty much needs to do that, in order to win over Fox and Disney. Otherwise the content advantage for Blu-Ray will make the outcome inevitable. That's not to say Blu-Ray will become a big hit like DVD but it's likely to outlast HD-DVD.
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wco81 wrote:I wonder how unit sales on HD-DVD and Blu-Ray compare to DVD at a comparable stage.
I bet a lot of Blu-ray sells are driven by PS3 sells. The PS2 was my first DVD player; the PS3 is my first Blu-ray player. I would not be surprised if this is the case for a majority of PS3 owners.
wco81 wrote:Look at the blockbusters this year. Assuming a day and date release, Blu-Ray can look forward to Spiderman 3, the third Pirates movie and one or two others I'm forgetting which will be coming from Blu-Ray exclusive studios this year.
I own three Blu-ray movies - the first two pirates and Planet Earth. I am not sure what the Blu-ray movie sells are for the pirates movies, but you have to expect that the third pirates movie will be in line with the first two; plus it will drive more sells as others pick up all three at once.

wco81 wrote:HD-DVD has been behind on unit disc sales all year but a big Xmas can erase the Blu-Ray lead in unit sales.
It will be interesting to see what the total sells numbers are for 3rd qtr. I think the PS3 price cut will end any hope of HD-DVD catching on. I believe that there are millions of loyal Sony fans (just look at PS2 sells) that have been waiting for the PS3 to come down in price and for the games to come. Well, the price just came down, and the games are coming. I am not sure that Blu-ray will ever pass DVD, but Blu-ray sells will increase *IF* Sony manages to capture more market share with the PS3.
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Killzone 2 in-game trailer released on GT:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/2150 ... 1&type=wmv

Sony begins to step up. First impression is that it is very, very good. I don't buy that it is heads and tails above Gears and the early builds of COD4, but it definitely is a step in the right direction. I think Sony will have to continue to play catch-up in this generation, but this is good for starters.
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GameSeven wrote:Killzone 2 in-game trailer released on GT:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/2150 ... 1&type=wmv

Sony begins to step up. First impression is that it is very, very good. I don't buy that it is heads and tails above Gears and the early builds of COD4, but it definitely is a step in the right direction. I think Sony will have to continue to play catch-up in this generation, but this is good for starters.
Like all shooters, it will live or die by the frame rate (esp online).

edit: crap, I didn't realize it wasn't even coming out until 2008 - YIKES!

"Then, early this morning, Sony officially christened the title as Killzone 2, and announced it would be arriving sometime in 2008." - gamespot
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The Ai looked horrendous, looked like duck hunt with pretty graphics.

With out any ai its just another shooter, im sorry i need more now everything is just the same but ooh its real time shite this time.
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My prediction is that KZ2 will suck as bad as KZ. After playing F.E.A.R. with a ruthless and human like AI it's tough to play any FPS with dumb AI.
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Rodster wrote:My prediction is that KZ2 will suck as bad as KZ. After playing F.E.A.R. with a ruthless and human like AI it's tough to play any FPS with dumb AI.
That would be my prediction as well. It looks good (although not nearly as good as the trailer Sony released back when they were trying to convince people that "the next gen starts when they say it starts"). However, I would bet just about anything that Halo3 will kick it up and down the street when it comes to actually playing the thing.
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Well, I think Sony's presentation was solid.

I do think the price cut is definitely going to boost sales. Also, I think Sony is looking beyond 2007 obviously, as they know they have a lot of catching up to do. Look, I don't care who wins the console war.

- Home continues to look extremely intriguing. I love XBL's online interface, but maybe Home will be compete in a different kind of way. It's gotta be better than what they have now. It looks as though online play is moving in the right direction at least.
- Echochrome and Wipeout HD look very impressive
- Singstar could be a great party game
- I wasn't even aware of Haze or Infamous. They both look promising, especially Infamous (reminds me a little of City of Heroes).
- I could care less about Unreal Tournament, but it should be a very good online game. Nice exclusive all the same.
- I can't wait for Unchartered: Drakes Fortune.
- I'm not a big Halo fan, so Killzone isn't really my type of game either but it does look on par graphically with GOW. I'm just soooooo tired of FPS Alien shooters. Rinse and repeat. Only COD:4 looks promising.
- Of course, MLB 2K8 should be enhanced graphically and additional features added.

I just came away with a positive feeling. Obviously, MS has a very impressive lineup, but there are games and features they presented that really don't interest me too much. And further, the continued reliability issues are an annoyance. I hope I don't have to worry about that with the PS3, or at least I don't have the worry when I play for prolonged periods of time that I'll get the dreaded RROD. And it seems the repair time is an abysmal 4 weeks right now for the 360. I'm sure that'll all change in a couple months when the cooler chipset debuts.

It would definitely be nice if both consoles can co-exist. I have no ill will towards any of the three.
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Rodster wrote:My prediction is that KZ2 will suck as bad as KZ. After playing F.E.A.R. with a ruthless and human like AI it's tough to play any FPS with dumb AI.
And I predict Bioshock and Mass Effect will not live up to the hype..... :roll:

EDIT: Didn't mean to sound harsh. Sorry. I just think it's best to wait until we actually play the game to make opinions from videos. Considering that KZ2 isn't coming out until '08, there's still room more improvement.
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Home does very cool except my main concern is what will Home do to the network backbone. As it is right now it's difficult to play MLB The Show online. I can't begin to fathom how the playstation network will be when you have 500,000 or millions of virtual 3D Homes the system is trying to support and i'm not counting voice and data traffic. Good luck trying to play online games.

This has nightmare scenario written all over it.
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sportdan30 wrote:
Rodster wrote:My prediction is that KZ2 will suck as bad as KZ. After playing F.E.A.R. with a ruthless and human like AI it's tough to play any FPS with dumb AI.
And I predict Bioshock and Mass Effect will not live up to the hype..... :roll:
You're right it might not either but I do know that KZ was bad borderline awful. Bioshock and Mass Effect are both IP's so i'm willing to cut them slack. We shall see if both ME and BS live up to their hype.

So far so good from what we've seen and I do have faith in Bioware as a developer because their games are usually very good or awesome.
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sportdan30 wrote:Well, I think Sony's presentation was solid.
Solid?

Their biggest news was a new PSP (won't help the DS is still kicking your ass) and that they didn't lose the MGS exclusive.
sportdan30 wrote:And I predict Bioshock and Mass Effect will not live up to the hype..... :roll:
Hey if Singstar gets you going over titles like Mass Effect and Bio Shock more power to you.

Honestly your posts since getting a PS3 and ditching your 360 have really taken on a defensive nature. People have every right to be critical of the PS3, they rested on their rep and are paying the price for it right now.
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Rodster wrote:Home does very cool except my main concern is what will Home do to the network backbone. As it is right now it's difficult to play MLB The Show online. I can't begin to fathom how the playstation network will be when you have 500,000 or millions of virtual 3D Homes the system is trying to support and i'm not counting voice and data traffic. Good luck trying to play online games.

This has nightmare scenario written all over it.
I'm telling you right now Home is not going to be what anyone is expecting. Personally I find it boring as hell. They put on a nice dog & pony show when announcing this thing, too bad it will take them years to get it anywhere near what they promised.
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Danimal,

Hey I hear you on the Singstar front, but honestly it intrigues me more than Mass Effect and Bioshock. I know it's weird, but I guess I'm a different kind of gamer than most. I haven't see sawed in my opinion that I've grown tired of FPS. The same goes for KZ2. I'm not counting the days until it's released. Yeah, I'll rent it because of the hype, but I'm not overly excited about it.

In the end, I think Sony's presentation was just as solid as MS, if not a little better. Just my opinion. I apologize for being defensive. There are issues that bug me about Sony. I'm not happy with the way they've gone about marketing the PS3. Heck, they should take note of Apple's marketing strategy. Keep it simple and clear exactly what you're getting out of the product. But, that doesn't change the fact I feel good about the future of the console. Same goes obviously for MS.

But, why bag on "Home" until you've experienced it? It definitely could suck, but it just might appeal to a large majority of gamers. I think it's pretty cool they're going a different route and not copying the XBL interface.

Anyways, just my two cents.....have a nice evening.
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sportdan30 wrote:Danimal,

Hey I hear you on the Singstar front, but honestly it intrigues me more than Mass Effect and Bioshock. I know it's weird, but I guess I'm a different kind of gamer than most. I haven't see sawed in my opinion that I've grown tired of FPS. The same goes for KZ2. I'm not counting the days until it's released. Yeah, I'll rent it because of the hype, but I'm not overly excited about it.
I wasn't being sarcastic. If singstar gets you going, seriously great. I loved karaoke rev on the xbox. People have different tastes. I just think Mass Effect is going to be one of those genre defining games, who knows it might suck.
In the end, I think Sony's presentation was just as solid as MS, if not a little better. Just my opinion. I apologize for being defensive. There are issues that bug me about Sony. I'm not happy with the way they've gone about marketing the PS3. Heck, they should take note of Apple's marketing strategy. Keep it simple and clear exactly what you're getting out of the product. But, that doesn't change the fact I feel good about the future of the console. Same goes obviously for MS.
I think all 3 presentations sucked. I'm not saying MS had the best, I would agree if I had to rate them Sony was the best, followed by MS, then by Matel, Atari and finally Ninetendo :D

I'll give Microsoft props for showing games we will actually see within 6 months, but christ show us something for the future. The Halo 360, go f*** yourselves.

Sony, I've heard about KZ2 for 3 years, same thing with MGS4. Where are the new IP's?

Ninetendo, have fun with your new fitness "game".
But, why bag on "Home" until you've experienced it? It definitely could suck, but it just might appeal to a large majority of gamers. I think it's pretty cool they're going a different route and not copying the XBL interface.
I wouldn't rag on it without having tried it. ;) I'll just leave it at saying for someone my age 41, hell anyone who has a life over 25, I don't think it is going to be a hit. Who knows millions of people watch the View and I can't comprehend that either.
Anyways, just my two cents.....have a nice evening.


You're entitled to your opinions, my defensive note was simply because it seems like every time someone expresses a concern with the PS3 you defend it (which is fine) but then always throw in you don't have to worry about the RROD issue.

It's that last part that strikes me as odd that you keep bringing that up. We have collectively as a group beaten the piss out of MS on this issue. The 360 is a mishap of an engineering feat. I sincerely hope they have solved the issue, and the 3 year warranty no matter what anyone thinks is an unprecedented move on their part.

But I question why any of that would have any bearing on if I thought the PS3 was overpriced, the online system was crap and the games are just not there.

I'm not a PS3 hater, I've played the Show more then any game I have ever owned on my 360. I'm not concerned that Konami just pulled the weirdest marketing move (yesterdays comments / todays announcement) with MGS4 as I can still play it. As a Blu Ray player the PS3 is a deal.

I'd like to think I am critical of all systems, but lately I can just feel the console lines dividing here at DSP and it reminds me of the old usenet group days and well I just don't like it.

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What is big ps3 game for christmas? Most of the E3 stuff seems to be for 08.
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Danimal wrote:I'm not concerned that Konami just pulled the weirdest marketing move (yesterdays comments / todays announcement) with MGS4 as I can still play it. As a Blu Ray player the PS3 is a deal.
Agreed. Konami just pulled a PR move straight out of Sony PR 101...say one thing one day, contradict that announcement the next day.

Two days ago, the President or CEO (or some representative of Konami's) stated that "the PS3 $100 price drop is a move in the right direction, but not enough to keep Konami looking at making MGS4 a multi-console title due to lack of PS3 userbase".

Yesterday, there was an announcement at E3 that MGS4 is going to stay PS-exclusive. So they are going to hang their hat on PS3's userbase and ignore almost 12 million 360's and 10 million Wii's? Um, okydoky.....
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No from what i got out of that was its only exclusive at this time and you will see it on xbox later. They didnt realy cement that fact.
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They might have an MGS game of some kind like they did for the Xbox. But they never released MGS3 did they?

Also, has MGS sold well here as it has in Japan?

MS can't entice Konami with Japanese sales.

Wii might also get some MGS derivative too but it simply can't handle MGS4 in its current form.
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greggsand wrote:What is big ps3 game for christmas? Most of the E3 stuff seems to be for 08.
The big three in my estimation are Heavenly Sword, Lair, and Unchartered. The first two come out in September, and the last comes out during the holiday season.
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greggsand wrote:What is big ps3 game for christmas? Most of the E3 stuff seems to be for 08.
The big three in my estimation are Heavenly Sword, Lair, and Unchartered. The first two come out in September, and the last comes out during the holiday season.
Of those three choices, Lair shows the most promise. Heavenly Sword looks to be another hack and slash style game and Unchartered I believe was recently announced so I know very little about it. We'll see let's hope these games turn out to be solid. All I know is I don't care whether it's Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft if the game is average or a been there done that, i'm skipping it especially at $59.99
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Actually, all 3 are from well-known developers who are all trying to push the PS3 in different ways to make new IP.

Heavenly Sword is 720p but notable for showing tons of enemies on screen at once, each one controlled by AI run on the SPE units. Most hopeful comparison might be God of War. It may involve button-mashing but a lot of parts of it apparently use a similar mechanic to God of War, which had to press certain buttons in big boss battles. The developers are in England and they'd previously worked on a lesser-known Xbox game, Kung-Fu Chaos. A couple of the developers have been posting at different forums and on some personal blogs. The media they've shown is as impressive as any game currently in development. A demo is suppose to be coming soon.

Lair is from Factor 5, the studio that did the Rogue Squadron games. If I'm not mistaken, it will be rendered in 1080p. There are a couple of developer's walkthrough video which show the enormous scale of this game. The world in which you fly these dragons is said to be 32km by 32 km or something like that. However, there has been some concern about the AI of the enemy units, due possibly to all resources devoted to rendering this vast world.

Uncharted is from Naughty Dog, which did Jak and Dakster. The media has shown lush jungle environments (some comparisons to Crysis even) and animation as good as seen in any other game. The sense I get is Flashback, although the story isn't like that and it's obviously in 3D.

Again, I think demos for all these games are coming.

In addition, there's Warhawk and I thought Little Big Planet would be released this year as well.
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SportsDan, if I were you, I wouldn't get into a pissing contest with these guys. One thing I have learned from OS and here, X360 is the end all be all. The PS3 is a sub par system that doesn't do anything right, it has no games and the titles that are coming out are irrelevant. Everytime a PS3 title comes out the anchor of "its not worth x amount of dollars" is applied to the game.

So do as I do, make your post and keep pushing.
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Any news on from E3 on Afrika? The early trailers last year looked so wicked cool and the premise promises to be something unique, so I'd very much like to hear it hasn't been shelved.
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