PS3 Impressions Yes Another One....

GameSeven · Post by **GameSeven** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:19 pm

It looks like an E3 100 dollar price cut on the PS3 is in the offing, based upon the Circuit City ad to run 7/15-7/21 according to CAG:
http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/sho ... p?t=143618

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:24 pm

The PS3 in reality needs a $200 price cut. Only then, will sales surge for the PS3. I expect Microsoft to counter with a price cut of their own.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:38 pm

Rodster wrote:The PS3 in reality needs a $200 price cut. Only then, will sales surge for the PS3. I expect Microsoft to counter with a price cut of their own.

And if they came out with a $200 price cut, then you would say they really need a $300 price cut.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:39 pm

I hear there is yet another update....

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:46 pm

sportdan30 wrote:
Rodster wrote:The PS3 in reality needs a $200 price cut. Only then, will sales surge for the PS3. I expect Microsoft to counter with a price cut of their own.
And if they came out with a $200 price cut, then you would say they really need a $300 price cut.

Yeah i'll be happy when I can buy a PS3 for $299, that's my goal.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 8:57 pm

I do agree a $200 price cut would really boost sales, but they gotta be losing their shirt big time just by reducing it by a $100.

I gotta think $299 will be the going rate in 2-3 years.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:31 pm

sportdan30 wrote:I do agree a $200 price cut would really boost sales, but they gotta be losing their shirt big time just by reducing it by a $100.

I gotta think $299 will be the going rate in 2-3 years.

There losing there ass at $600 but since they're not selling they have no choice but to drop the price so at least they can keep the game companies happy. A $100 price drop will help a little but if MS counters with a $100 of their own then it's back to square one for Sony.

Diablo25 · Post by **Diablo25** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 9:36 pm

sportdan30 wrote:I hear there is yet another update....

1.83? I'm not seeing it on mine.

GTHobbes · Post by **GTHobbes** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 10:42 pm

I read a headline today that Microsoft is spending (has spent?) $1 Billion (with a "B") on 360 repairs, so I'm not really sure who's losing their shirts more. Hopefully someone other than EA is making money because I'm loving the current state of gaming and would hate to see any of the Big 3 (Sony, MS & Nintendo) leave the console market like Sega did.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:16 pm

Diablo25 wrote:
sportdan30 wrote:I hear there is yet another update....
1.83? I'm not seeing it on mine.

Yeah, I think I stand corrected. Sorry.

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:46 pm

$100 dollars cut would get a lot of gamers on the fence looking for the PS3. But it is still about the games. Other than MLB 07, F1 and Resistance, I am still looking for a better library. Let's put it this way, I have more BR movies than games.

pigpen81 · Post by **pigpen81** » Thu Jul 05, 2007 11:54 pm

$299 and maybe even $199 will be the magic number for m.

The Wii60 and PC gaming more then fits my needs.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:43 am

10spro wrote:$100 dollars cut would get a lot of gamers on the fence looking for the PS3. But it is still about the games. Other than MLB 07, F1 and Resistance, I am still looking for a better library. Let's put it this way, I have more BR movies than games.

I do agree the lack of the games is frusturating. However, for me personally I do not need a handful of A+ games all at once. I'm quite content with MLB. Actually, it allows me to concentrate on one game rather than buying the next best game. I think it all boils down to the particular gamer and how much time he wants to devote to the hobby.

I'm not worried about the lack of games. Sony will deliver. It's whether or not you have the patience to wait.

jLp vAkEr0 · Post by **jLp vAkEr0** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:43 am

sportdan30 wrote:
10spro wrote:$100 dollars cut would get a lot of gamers on the fence looking for the PS3. But it is still about the games. Other than MLB 07, F1 and Resistance, I am still looking for a better library. Let's put it this way, I have more BR movies than games.
I do agree the lack of the games is frusturating. However, for me personally I do not need a handful of A+ games all at once. I'm quite content with MLB. Actually, it allows me to concentrate on one game rather than buying the next best game. I think it all boils down to the particular gamer and how much time he wants to devote to the hobby.

I'm not worried about the lack of games. Sony will deliver. It's whether or not you have the patience to wait.

Same here.

Plus, you can still get so many good games for the PS2 at cheap prices.

I went ahead and bought Maximo for $3 at EB a couple of days ago. Now I can finally dedicate myself to finish it.

Rented God of war and it looked great pretty good with the PS3 upconvertion feature. I may end up buying it too.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:47 am

sportdan30 wrote:
10spro wrote:$100 dollars cut would get a lot of gamers on the fence looking for the PS3. But it is still about the games. Other than MLB 07, F1 and Resistance, I am still looking for a better library. Let's put it this way, I have more BR movies than games.
I do agree the lack of the games is frusturating. However, for me personally I do not need a handful of A+ games all at once. I'm quite content with MLB. Actually, it allows me to concentrate on one game rather than buying the next best game. I think it all boils down to the particular gamer and how much time he wants to devote to the hobby.

I'm not worried about the lack of games. Sony will deliver. It's whether or not you have the patience to wait.

So what's your stance on the next 3 sports games (NCAA, Madden, and NFL 2k8) coming out at double the framerate on the 360 compared to the ps3?

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 8:52 am

For me there's no question i'll buy the best version which happens to be on the 360, plus I still can't play sports games without the rumble feature and the PS3 still lacks in that department.

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:22 am

MizzouRah wrote:So what's your stance on the next 3 sports games (NCAA, Madden, and NFL 2k8) coming out at double the framerate on the 360 compared to the ps3?

It's probably a moot point for me since my third X360 is about to bite the dust. I'll keep the console through the 3 year warranty but I may not invest in many new games.

Has Madden or NCAA ever been 60 fps? What games are 60 fps right now? It's not like I've got a framerate counter in the corner of the screen. I find it hard that anyone can have a stance until they've played both or at least read some reviews/impressions from those that have. I have no problem with picking up the 360 version if the gameplay is significantly better, but I just don't have enough information right now.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 9:30 am

Todd,

My stance on the PS3 football games was initially disbelief. Then anger, and now disappointment. However, until I play each one for myself, I can't completely form an opinion. It's quite possible the framerate might not be too noticeable, but then again it might.

I guess my question to you is, how happy are you about MLB 2K7? From your postings, it seems like you're quite content with the game. That game certainly is not as buttery smooth as The Show on the PS3. However, it really doesn't kill your enjoyment of 2K7, does it?

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 10:30 am

sportdan30 wrote:Todd,

My stance on the PS3 football games was initially disbelief. Then anger, and now disappointment. However, until I play each one for myself, I can't completely form an opinion. It's quite possible the framerate might not be too noticeable, but then again it might.

I guess my question to you is, how happy are you about MLB 2K7? From your postings, it seems like you're quite content with the game. That game certainly is not as buttery smooth as The Show on the PS3. However, it really doesn't kill your enjoyment of 2K7, does it?

No, but if it was at 60 fps and buttery smooth on the ps3, I wouldn't be happy. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it will make you throw the controller through your TV, but it would be disappointing and have me considering a 360.

That's the one thing I liked NHL 2k7 over NHL 07, was how smooth it played at 60 fps vs the 30 fps NHL 07 plays at. There's definitly a difference.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:27 am

I hope everyone realizes this is not a Sony price cut and just an alleged Circuit City sale. Retailers have so many PS3 sitting in inventory they are just trying to move some.

But from what I have read this is not a PS3 price cut from the mothership unless the story changes in a week.

GameSeven · Post by **GameSeven** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:35 am

Yes, Sony is denying a price cut, but two things make me skeptical...

First, aren't there usually significant restrictions on resellers dropping price on consoles? Bundles and pack-ins I can understand but this appears to be an out-and-out "price break" (usually permanent for CC) as per the circular.

Second, the timing of this to follow E3 is hard to ignore.

I suppose it's conceivable that CC is acting on its own here, but you would think it would chafe SCEA that CC either stole their thunder *or* created an embarrassing situation as a major retailer takes it upon itself to significantly discount a piece of hardware in the wake of the biggest industry trade show.

webdanzer · Post by **webdanzer** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 11:38 am

Danimal wrote:I hope everyone realizes this is not a Sony price cut and just an alleged Circuit City sale. Retailers have so many PS3 sitting in inventory they are just trying to move some.

But from what I have read this is not a PS3 price cut from the mothership unless the story changes in a week.

The only 'evidence' is the CC flyers, but the rumor is the cut will be enacted everywhere.

A PS3 price cut rumor spread like wildfire across the Internet this afternoon when several sites spotted a new advertisement from Circuit City. The ad as seen on Kotaku lists the PS3 console at $499.99, $100 less than its current price.

It wasn't clear at first if this ad was a special deal specific to the electronics retailer or if it's indeed a retail-wide price cut instituted by Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA). As it turns out, a merchandising manager (who wished to remain anonymous) at one of the world's biggest retailers has confirmed to GameDaily BIZ that the price drop is indeed retail-wide and it's scheduled to take place on July 12, although the first wave of ads to promote the PS3's new price won't kick in until Sunday, July 15.

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16721

Not saying the linked site or its source is particularly credible, (nor do I believe that Sony's denials are, either

) but from what I've read it seems like there may be a cut retail-wide.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:03 pm

With MS's announcement of the extended RROD warranty, I would be shocked if this isn't a move by Sony.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 12:55 pm

Well if it really is a retail wide cut and MS doesn't follow suit, they are in some serious trouble.

LAking · Post by **LAking** » Fri Jul 06, 2007 1:00 pm

Danimal wrote:Well if it really is a retail wide cut and MS doesn't follow suit, they are in some serious trouble.

MS can easily afford to wait until right before the holiday season to make a price cut. Their console is STILL $100 cheaper than the PS3, plus it's got the great library of games.