XBox One AND PS4 Discussion

[Aristo]

Sony won by default ?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/ ... -november/

Won what? The console war is over. No one gives a crap anymore. There will be plenty of games for all three systems for the foreseeable future.

[Inuyasha]

i'm not saying it. just thought it was a good read and sharing the article. I actually am liking my XBO more and more by the day.

[Danimal]

So because of a snafu I ended up with 2 of the drives mentioned earlier in this thread. I bought one for my XB1 but can I use the other drive on my PS4 as well?

[Aristo]

The only last gen game I want to play is NCAA Football, wish they could of held out one more year so we got a current gen version

Madden 15 has been so good, that I just quit going back to MCAA, as much as I loved it. I really do miss the varied playbooks and the overall atmosphere of college football. I find recruiting far more interesting than the the draft and free agency. And there is so much more reward in taking bottom tier teams and getting them into bowls and improving their station.

Just one more release on next gen consoles with the CFP would have been so nice. Hopefully the series makes a comeback. I'd love a version with the current engine Madden 15 is running.

[Danimal]

I read today the retired players lawsuit against Madden was given the ok to go forward. I doubt it but EA could certainly do what they did with NCAA and just let it go.

[Diablo25]

So because of a snafu I ended up with 2 of the drives mentioned earlier in this thread. I bought one for my XB1 but can I use the other drive on my PS4 as well?

Not sure. I'm guessing no. You have to format the HD to use with the XB1 and I'm guessing the formatting is different on the ps4. Just a guess.

[Inuyasha]

I thought for Madden any player from the past needed to give their consent which I think they would have for Ultimate team.

College Video games are pretty much dead. I was talking with PastaPadre about this a few months back and asked him can't they just make a generic game with no names, just #'s, and generic teams, like instead of the University of Kentucky, just Kentucky. He pretty much said no, because any athlete can claim years from now that there was a resemblance to them even for the slightest of things like say skin color or hair color. So unles they release something like Zombie Alien College basketball where the player models are little green men or Walking Dead like Zombies, it won't happen.

So none of these companies are going to take any chances on college sports.

[Danimal]

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/arch ... rward.aspx

Here ya go.

[Rodster]

I can't see them dumping Madden over the licensing issues as thats the only sports game where they make money.

[skinsfan]

I can't see them dumping Madden over the licensing issues as thats the only sports game where they make money.

So FIFA isn't profitable?

[Rodster]

Oops I forgot about FIFA but supposedly Madden makes them the most money at least here in the US.

[Danimal]

Oops I forgot about FIFA but supposedly Madden makes them the most money at least here in the US.

I'm pretty sure global sales of FIFA and it's FUT mode far surpass Madden sales but I'm too lazy to look it up. No one knows exactly what the licensing deal is anymore as both parties are mum on the subject only saying it is still in place. It could be a year to year thing since the NFL has effectively killed any other company from making a game.

[Aristo]

I don't think the ability to put retired players into Madden really makes much a difference in the success of the franchise. But if EA wasn't paying them, they are freaking idiots. Greedy f***in idiots. (cue XXXIV)

The retired players of the NBA 2K games and even APFB 2K8 got paid. They went through a lot of trouble to get guys, and their lack of ability to sign Barkly has meant no Phoenix Suns teams from the 90's. I have no idea in what world EA thought it could get away with not paying them.

In the case of NCAA, even if the players get the rights to license their likenesses, I still have to think it will still cost EA more than it is worth to include them in a game. NCAA does not sell near the copies Madden does, yet it deals with almost 100 more teams to license. While I think the players ought to get paid, I was fully aware that it would probably kill the series. Hopefully, I am wrong about the economics, and we will see new NCAA football and basketball games.

[Rodster]

Oops I forgot about FIFA but supposedly Madden makes them the most money at least here in the US.

I'm pretty sure global sales of FIFA and it's FUT mode far surpass Madden sales but I'm too lazy to look it up. No one knows exactly what the licensing deal is anymore as both parties are mum on the subject only saying it is still in place. It could be a year to year thing since the NFL has effectively killed any other company from making a game.

I don't know either what they are selling volume wise but regional vs global; I can see FIFA beating Madden but one would think in the US, Madden beats FIFA.

[Inuyasha]

for those of you with EA Access, has NBA LIVE ever worked for you? Meaning has it ever connected to the EA servers. Ever since I dl the game, it has said it cant connect to the ea servers. I even deleted and downloaded the game and still same problem.

[pk500]

for those of you with EA Access, has NBA LIVE ever worked for you? Meaning has it ever connected to the EA servers. Ever since I dl the game, it has said it cant connect to the ea servers. I even deleted and downloaded the game and still same problem.

Yes, it worked for me. But I deleted it within a day or two of downloading it. The game is not in the same area code as NBA 2K15.

[F308GTB]

Sony won by default ?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/ ... -november/

Won what? The console war is over. No one gives a crap anymore. There will be plenty of games for all three systems for the foreseeable future.

I feel like Paul did a few years back before being brought back kicking and screaming into the 360 world. Since building a new PC last summer, zero desire to get either the PS4 or XB1. Console war really is over for me. About the only things I'm really missing are FM5 and FH2, but I've picked up more than enough PC racing titles to fill those voids.

[Rodster]

I feel like Paul did a few years back before being brought back kicking and screaming into the 360 world. Since building a new PC last summer, zero desire to get either the PS4 or XB1. Console war really is over for me. About the only things I'm really missing are FM5 and FH2, but I've picked up more than enough PC racing titles to fill those voids.

Ditto here as well !

I built two PC's with one being a dedicated Steam box. I've really lost interest in consoles. Up until the PS4 and XONE I would have bought at least 20-25 games within a year of the launch. The average is now around 5 games for each. I only buy console games when they are on clearance.

Wrt the PC and racing, yeah if you have a rig that can handle them, that's the way to go. I'm loving F1 2014 and looking forward to the early release of F1 2015. The racing game on Steam AC is a well made game and to my surprise Raceroom w/DTM 2013 is pretty solid and gives you a nice perspective of what it's like to drive a DTM race car. There isn't anything close on any of the consoles.

[Brando70]

My best friend is a big PC gamer and he just bought a new rig to play Dragon Age. He's never really had a problem with gaming compatibility issues, but he could not get DA:I to install on his new, very expensive machine. Tech support suggested he switch from Windows 7 to 8, which he didn't want to do but did in the hopes of getting the game to work. Somehow in the process of upgrading Windows, there was an authentication problem and the Windows installation said he had a pirated copy of 7 and would not install 8. Now his PC won't boot and he has to go through the hassle of fixing a much bigger problem than a game not playing on a brand new PC.

I know that's the exception rather than the rule these days, and I have been tempted to get into PC gaming for some of the strategy games that don't make it to consoles. But at the end of the day, I game for a few hours a week to relax, and being able to plop on the couch and not have to worry abut compatibility issues helps a lot. I also am not a build-your-own PC guy, which means getting a gaming PC that's better than what the PS4 or XBO can do costs more than those two consoles put together.

[Rodster]

Somehow in the process of upgrading Windows, there was an authentication problem and the Windows installation said he had a pirated copy of 7 and would not install 8. Now his PC won't boot and he has to go through the hassle of fixing a much bigger problem than a game not playing on a brand new PC.

Sounds like the Windows 7 copy could have been non-genuine. I don't know the builders but it has happened in the past.

I know that's the exception rather than the rule these days, and I have been tempted to get into PC gaming for some of the strategy games that don't make it to consoles. But at the end of the day, I game for a few hours a week to relax, and being able to plop on the couch and not have to worry abut compatibility issues helps a lot. I also am not a build-your-own PC guy, which means getting a gaming PC that's better than what the PS4 or XBO can do costs more than those two consoles put together.

Yeah, on an initial system build you could be looking at around $600-800 if you shop wisely. Where the PC has it's advantages is on the next upgrade you can reuse most of those parts if you're just going with a CPU/Motherboard upgrade. At that point the cost comes way down and usually CPU's tend to have a longer shelf life because it's mostly all about the GPU nowadays.

[Danimal]

I know that's the exception rather than the rule these days, and I have been tempted to get into PC gaming for some of the strategy games that don't make it to consoles. But at the end of the day, I game for a few hours a week to relax, and being able to plop on the couch and not have to worry abut compatibility issues helps a lot. I also am not a build-your-own PC guy, which means getting a gaming PC that's better than what the PS4 or XBO can do costs more than those two consoles put together.

I'm not going to start this debate again but just some factors on the positive side.

You can get a good rig for under $1000. Second the sheer number of games, especially great Indie games on the PC dwarfs the consoles. With the exception of sports titles the PC has more options per genre than consoles. Also with rare exceptions the cost of games is cheaper. I purchased 9 games on the Steam sale for the cost of o single console game.

Finally just about any PC you purchase can be hooked up to your TV and that's not even considering Steam Big picture.

If your main genres are strategy and rpg's I'm not sure how you couldn't be a PC gamer IMO.

[Rodster]

I know that's the exception rather than the rule these days, and I have been tempted to get into PC gaming for some of the strategy games that don't make it to consoles. But at the end of the day, I game for a few hours a week to relax, and being able to plop on the couch and not have to worry abut compatibility issues helps a lot. I also am not a build-your-own PC guy, which means getting a gaming PC that's better than what the PS4 or XBO can do costs more than those two consoles put together.

I'm not going to start this debate again but just some factors on the positive side.

You can get a good rig for under $1000. Second the sheer number of games, especially great Indie games on the PC dwarfs the consoles. With the exception of sports titles the PC has more options per genre than consoles. Also with rare exceptions the cost of games is cheaper. I purchased 9 games on the Steam sale for the cost of o single console game.

Finally just about any PC you purchase can be hooked up to your TV and that's not even considering Steam Big picture.

If your main genres are strategy and rpg's I'm not sure how you couldn't be a PC gamer IMO.

All true and Dell is now offering the Alienware Alpha which is basically a Steam Box for around $500-600.

[Brando70]

Yeah, I didn't mean to start a PC vs. Console thing. But I think unless you buy a lot of games or have specific genres that are underrepresented on consoles, I don't see the value in going PC over console. I don't have the time to play through a lot of games, so I tend to buy 10-12 a year at most and stick with them. I also rarely buy full-price stuff and tend to stick with $40 as a price point, unless it's a game I'm dying to have or I'm trading in games.

The TV hookup thing is also not practical for me, because any gaming PC I buy is going to pull double-duty for other functions, which means it's going to be on my desk.

At the end of the day I have simply become more lazy and casual as a gamer, so the path of least resistance works better for me. If I manage to sell my book this year and get some money, I may reward myself with a gaming PC then

[Pete1210]

Finally just about any PC you purchase can be hooked up to your TV and that's not even considering Steam Big picture.

Is it as simple as using an HDMI cable? I bought a 25 foot HDMI cable about a year ago just for that purpose, but haven't tried it yet.

[Rodster]

Is it as simple as using an HDMI cable? I bought a 25 foot HDMI cable about a year ago just for that purpose, but haven't tried it yet.

Yup it's that simple. Connect the HDMI cable to the back of your video card and the other end to your HDTV. Select the HDMI input port on your TV and that's it.