MLB 2K7

Sudz · Post by **Sudz** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:30 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:I couldn't give a sh*t less about Franchise mode...the AI in season mode as far as positions and batting order seemed to be sound as I simmed through a season last night. Works for me. I don't care about all the fluff in franchise modes, so I stick with seasons instead.

cool. works for me too...no weird trades or guys outta position?

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:32 pm

Zeppo wrote:Since I prefer to play people online, this would be a game killer for me, I think. Again, a design decisions based on 'what is it like to watch a baseball game on TV?' but they seem to forget that we are supposed to be playing the game, not watching it. I guess v. CPU it makes no difference (heck, the CPU knows where you're pitching anyway, even without the commentary glitch), but, sheesh, that's a pretty stupid 'feature' to put in for onilne gaming. 'Comedic' is certainly one way to state such stupidity, but I would say downright incompetent, along with 'doesn't anyone test these things?' I suppose you could agree to turn the commentary off, but there's no way to tell if your opponent has actually done that.

That only tips it off if you follow the catcher's signals. I believe you can turn off catchers giving pitch suggestions but I'm not positive. No biggie to me but a dumb omission (or would that be inclusion?) for sure.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:40 pm

Sudz wrote:
dbdynsty25 wrote:I couldn't give a sh*t less about Franchise mode...the AI in season mode as far as positions and batting order seemed to be sound as I simmed through a season last night. Works for me. I don't care about all the fluff in franchise modes, so I stick with seasons instead.

cool. works for me too...no weird trades or guys outta position?

Works for me too - as I imagine the NL Central will be quite competitive.

db - are you on all star yet or still pro?

RallyMonkey · Post by **RallyMonkey** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:45 pm

o you don't "aim" the hitter's eye after it locks in?
that makes the hitting system 100% timing based.

so lets say you guess low and inside corner, then the pitch
comes in high outside. Should you still swing or is there little
chance of making contact?

RallyMonkey wrote:
Wherever you place the battters eye will lock into place once the pitcher begins his windup. At that point all you need to concern yourself with is the swing stick and can let the left stick go completely.

Much like in real baseball, if you guess wrong you can still make contact, but it won't be as pure as if you guess correctly. You still need to read the pitch and "go with it". If you guess low and inside and the pitch is up and out, you can go with the pitch by using the right stick and still connect. You would move the right stick down and in a circular motion in the opposite direction hoping to push the ball the other way. If you guess wrong AND make the incorrect type of swing you will definitely swing and miss........and look VERY bad doing it.

Hope this helps.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:56 pm

http://reviews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/12 ... ll-2K7/p1/

This review, although short, is pretty much spot on.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:57 pm

Digging the demo, but I think I'll until the last week of march. Hopefully there will be an opening day roster update before the season starts. I hate starting a franchise, then a new roster comes out.

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:59 pm

One thing that bugged me that isn't really gameplay related.

I was playing in SF and Bonds went deep on me. But the problem was I couldn't see the ball going over the Right Field Fence since the Camera angle sucks. Also, I hit a ball off the top of the RF fence but I couldn't even see that. At least let me see a hr going over the wall.

Also, how do you avoid wild pitches? It seems to me I must be doing something wrong when pitching with runners on base. The break in the ball is like The Show correct where you don't pitch it at the exact target but a little off the target for offspeed pitches since the ball will move?

Sport73 · Post by **Sport73** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:03 pm

Zeppo wrote:
Sport73 wrote:Just played an ONLINE game with RallyMonkey, and while it was mostly smooth as silk there was one rather comedic issue:

Joe Morgan likes to give away your pitch locations - ALOT! You'll be setting up a 1-2 pitch on the outside corner and just getting ready fire when he'll chime in "and <catcher> is lining up outside and down around the knees" or whatever.
Since I prefer to play people online, this would be a game killer for me, I think. Again, a design decisions based on 'what is it like to watch a baseball game on TV?' but they seem to forget that we are supposed to be playing the game, not watching it. I guess v. CPU it makes no difference (heck, the CPU knows where you're pitching anyway, even without the commentary glitch), but, sheesh, that's a pretty stupid 'feature' to put in for onilne gaming. 'Comedic' is certainly one way to state such stupidity, but I would say downright incompetent, along with 'doesn't anyone test these things?' I suppose you could agree to turn the commentary off, but there's no way to tell if your opponent has actually done that.

Question: in online games, do you pitch from behind the pitcher view, or does it revert back to the standard, behind the plate view? Sounds like behind the pitcher, if the catcher is a factor, so that's nice and would be a first I believe for online baseball. Also, does this game have the 2K league system the other 2K games have (I'm hoping with an actual functional website that isn't all garbled up like CH2K7)? A league with player movement, injuries, stats tracked etc. could be pretty cool.

It's definitely NOT a game-killer, since you can easily throw anywhere other than where the catcher is lined up without 'penalty', or move him if you're a real stickler to having him set up a target. That's why I describe it as 'comedic'. It's insignificant to gameplay, but somewhat funny if you're used to following the catcher's instructions during offline play.

Yes, you pitch from behind the pitcher when playing online!

I believe it does have leagues, but haven't investigated yet.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:11 pm

To answer a couple questions:

There were not any trades because you can turn off cpu trading. Another nice thing is that you can force trades. That was you can keep the rosters accurate as we progress through the real season.

I am on All-Star now. I lowered the ai power and contact and I think I have it about right for now. Obviously once I start dominating I will have to bump those back up.

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:14 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:To answer a couple questions:

There were not any trades because you can turn off cpu trading. Another nice thing is that you can force trades. That was you can keep the rosters accurate as we progress through the real season.

I am on All-Star now. I lowered the ai power and contact and I think I have it about right for now. Obviously once I start dominating I will have to bump those back up.

Forcing trades is something I always wanted in sports games. Hate to be playing a game midseason and in real life, there's a huge blockbuster trade but the only way you reflect it in the game is to start your franchise over again.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:15 pm

Has anyone set that dyunamic option in creating a franchise. It says it alters the AI sliders to adjust to how your playing. So in theory if you're constantly getting drubbed, it make the AI easier and if you're winning it makes it harder. I'm just curious if anyone si going ot try this option.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:16 pm

I too just play single seasons, so I'm hoping there aren't any issues with that mode. I can't imagine playing more than one or two seasons anyways. However, I do feel bad for those who are big franchise gamers.

webdanzer · Post by **webdanzer** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:17 pm

There are some serious issues relating to the size of the field.

-CPU *finally hits one down the line against me. Bounces twice, hits the corner. Single.

-I'm up, hit a liner to the RF, medium depth. He catches, throws to first to double off the runner four steps off.

-CPU hits a gapper, center right field. Two bounces, hits the wall. CF takes a couple seconds, maybe 6 steps, to pick it up. Throws guy out a second, not even close

I don't know...I'm starting to think those deperate for a 360 baseball game or still cold from a long winter of few sports-gaming releases have donned the rose-colored glasses a bit for this one.

Sudz · Post by **Sudz** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:19 pm

i heard that decreasing OF speed helps

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:19 pm

Danimal wrote:Has anyone set that dyunamic option in creating a franchise. It says it alters the AI sliders to adjust to how your playing. So in theory if you're constantly getting drubbed, it make the AI easier and if you're winning it makes it harder. I'm just curious if anyone si going ot try this option.

Interesting. Haven't seen that option yet.

Sully · Post by **Sully** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:23 pm

Supposedly, in franchise mode, the AI makes trades out of the ass (ex. Coco Crisp for Jason Bay). Not only that, but halfway through the season, one guy saw Jim Thome playing SS, and Derek Lee playing CF. Also, Derek Jeter was injured for 2 weeks, and 2 months later his minor league replacement is still the SS for the Yankees, while Jeter is wasting away in the minors. There's also talk of an abundance of FA's going unsigned. One guy had Ben Sheets and another top pitcher on the FA market, while playing several teams that had guys in their rotation with an ERA over 10. He said it didn't have to do with money either since Sheets was only asking for 8-9 million.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:26 pm

Web,

The only issue I'm seeing from the issues you listed is the doubling up the CPU. They do tend to be a bit slow getting back to the bag. I recall a play where it was lined to my shortstop. I could have easily thrown to first for the double play, but mistakenly threw it to second and then to first. I still got the runner going back to the bag.

The other issues I'm just not seeing or haven't seen yet. I have hit several doubles, and have had double hit against me with the runners making it easily in to second base. I haven't seen a triple yet however.

The size of the fields haven't bothered me, or it just hasn't been notieceable that they appear smaller. I'll have to pay attention to that this evening, but it wasn't a problem last night. I think perhaps we get a different view (camera angle what have you) from playing The Show that it can distort the way the field looks. Just my theory.

Gurantsu · Post by **Gurantsu** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:28 pm

As I adjust settings, I'm starting to have some very close games, including some good pitchers duels. I think everyone has different strengths when playing, so adjusting sliders will be a must. Like I said, when something stands out, adjust it quick and get back into the game. Eventually the game will "come to you".

Opening day game, O's versus Twins (I also mostly do seasons instead of franchises). Great pitchers duel until the eighth, when the O's Bedard ends up loading up the bases. As they zoom in on the mound when the O's go for a pitching change, Bedard is absolutely sweating like a pig, it's just running down his face. Just fluff, but it was cool to see.

My favorite heckle so far was a Phillies fan screaming to Jason Bay "Hey Jason, when are you going to play for a real team?" As a Bucs fan I have to laugh... and nod my head...

I found that my number one problem with fielding is just jamming the stick in one direction when the ball is coming very close to my fielder. The fielders do have analog control, so you do need to be gentle on the stick at times. Certainly a learning curve, but I'm slowly getting the hang of it.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 2:54 pm

Sully wrote:Supposedly, in franchise mode, the AI makes trades out of the ass (ex. Coco Crisp for Jason Bay). Not only that, but halfway through the season, one guy saw Jim Thome playing SS, and Derek Lee playing CF. Also, Derek Jeter was injured for 2 weeks, and 2 months later his minor league replacement is still the SS for the Yankees, while Jeter is wasting away in the minors. There's also talk of an abundance of FA's going unsigned. One guy had Ben Sheets and another top pitcher on the FA market, while playing several teams that had guys in their rotation with an ERA over 10. He said it didn't have to do with money either since Sheets was only asking for 8-9 million.

That's very messed up if true. But you did use the term "Supposedly", but I'm assuming if many are reporting the same issues, then it must be true. Once again, bad news for franchisers. Not so bad new for single season gamers. Oh well.

Sully · Post by **Sully** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:08 pm

sportdan30 wrote:
Sully wrote:Supposedly, in franchise mode, the AI makes trades out of the ass (ex. Coco Crisp for Jason Bay). Not only that, but halfway through the season, one guy saw Jim Thome playing SS, and Derek Lee playing CF. Also, Derek Jeter was injured for 2 weeks, and 2 months later his minor league replacement is still the SS for the Yankees, while Jeter is wasting away in the minors. There's also talk of an abundance of FA's going unsigned. One guy had Ben Sheets and another top pitcher on the FA market, while playing several teams that had guys in their rotation with an ERA over 10. He said it didn't have to do with money either since Sheets was only asking for 8-9 million.
That's very messed up if true. But you did use the term "Supposedly", but I'm assuming if many are reporting the same issues, then it must be true. Once again, bad news for franchisers. Not so bad new for single season gamers. Oh well.

Yeah, I only used the term "supposedly" because I haven't tested it myself. I've only seen several threads pop up at OS, as well as a few talking about it in the Bugs/Glitches thread.

kevinpars · Post by **kevinpars** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:45 pm

If true, this is not that surprising. Since they have stressed the "3 year plan" i did not expect to see much improvement in Franchise mode.

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:04 pm

I think you are right. There are lots of reports on the OS boards of way too many HR's and way too many robbed HR's. Heck, I had a HR robbed in my 1st 3 innings with the demo! The lack of doubles can hopefully be fixed by lowering OF speed. But I think as more and more days pass with this game, all those flaws that were overlooked during the "honeymoon" period will get larger and larger. Thanks goodness we have a real solid game in The Show to fall back on.

webdanzer wrote:
I don't know...I'm starting to think those deperate for a 360 baseball game or still cold from a long winter of few sports-gaming releases have donned the rose-colored glasses a bit for this one.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:29 pm

JackB1 wrote:I think you are right. There are lots of reports on the OS boards of way too many HR's and way too many robbed HR's. Heck, I had a HR robbed in my 1st 3 innings with the demo! The lack of doubles can hopefully be fixed by lowering OF speed. But I think as more and more days pass with this game, all those flaws that were overlooked during the "honeymoon" period will get larger and larger. Thanks goodness we have a real solid game in The Show to fall back on.

webdanzer wrote:
I don't know...I'm starting to think those deperate for a 360 baseball game or still cold from a long winter of few sports-gaming releases have donned the rose-colored glasses a bit for this one.

I'm going to crank out some more games on the all star difficulty level tonight as I didn't see one robbed HR on that level last night.

This game is going to have flaws just like in The Show people are saying the AI doesn't pinch hit for the pitcher in the right spots. It's going to come down to preference unless the ps3 version of The Show blows them both away.. which I highly doubt.

kicko · Post by **kicko** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:29 pm

could be true Jack but i think most of the issues can be ironed out hopefully with sliders. The one thing 2k does well is sliders and many of them. It's also too early to tell if these "issues" are fixable or not

LAking · Post by **LAking** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 4:41 pm

JackB1 wrote:I think you are right. There are lots of reports on the OS boards of way too many HR's and way too many robbed HR's. Heck, I had a HR robbed in my 1st 3 innings with the demo! The lack of doubles can hopefully be fixed by lowering OF speed. But I think as more and more days pass with this game, all those flaws that were overlooked during the "honeymoon" period will get larger and larger. Thanks goodness we have a real solid game in The Show to fall back on.

Yeah, if you've got a PS2 or PS3. You're SOL if you are like me and only have a 360.

I'm gonna give it some time and see what the sliders can do.