Madden 07 (Xbox 360) Thread

Gurantsu · Post by **Gurantsu** » Fri Sep 29, 2006 1:16 pm

I ended up trading my copy of Madden in to EB, picked up Lego Star Wars which is a hoot and my daughter loves playing it with me.

Lets see, the only 2 games I've traded in for my 360 are Madden and MLB 2K6. Way to handle those exclusive liscenses guys!

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:19 pm

Apparently the patch is out, i am at work and can't confirm but OS and Mn are saying it is out and (shock!) it is NOT working.

Edit: forgot the important NOT in my first post.

apparently the bars just change color, no one gets aut subbed out but it is early and I don't know who to believe at these other sites.

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:38 pm

WOW! Their BS machine is better than I thought.

.... it only took them 6 weeks to make a bar change colors, thats pretty good... much more than I expected.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:53 pm

Well i asked someone to test it in franchsie and they said auto-sub did work. You know how OS is, one persons post something and it snowballs into the over reaction train.

i guess until someone tried it here, or i get hime i will remain hopeful, if it works in franchise and online thats all i care about.

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:57 pm

Danimal wrote:Well i asked someone to test it in franchsie and they said auto-sub did work. You know how OS is, one persons post something and it snowballs into the over reaction train.

i guess until someone tried it here, or i get hime i will remain hopeful, if it works in franchise and online thats all i care about.

I guess the jury is still out.. its still a half ass job if it does not work in play now games.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:00 pm

bdunn13 wrote:
Danimal wrote:Well i asked someone to test it in franchsie and they said auto-sub did work. You know how OS is, one persons post something and it snowballs into the over reaction train.

i guess until someone tried it here, or i get hime i will remain hopeful, if it works in franchise and online thats all i care about.
I guess the jury is still out.. its still a half ass job if it does not work in play now games.

I do not disagree, but I would assume they would fix the bare minimum and that would be franchise and online. Now how they can fix it in some modes and not others doesn't make sense to me techincally but i won't b*tch if it works in franchise and one of the Os mods posted he had it working in franchise.

i'll see when I get home if it blows then i will trade in madden, lots of games coming out now anyway.

Wilk5280 · Post by **Wilk5280** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:47 pm

It may work, but not well. At least in my limited testing and it's nowhere near as prevalent as in NCAA 07.

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:21 pm

Danimal wrote: Now how they can fix it in some modes and not others doesn't make sense to me techincally but i won't b*tch if it works in franchise and one of the Os mods posted he had it working in franchise.

I agree... and I don't see how a roster update can change the endzones in a stadium but EA found a way.

I had it working half ass in franchise mode. Your guys do fatigue slow as hell.

I took Vick ran him back 30+ yards then over to the sideline and threw it away... did the same thing again.. next play I ran 30 yards for a first down with him.. next play I run with him and he fumbles... I think this whole time he was only missing 1 bar.. and Crumpler was missing 1 or 2 and had not done a thing..

They returned the fumble for a score so I got the ball right back... Vick was at 100% and he only say out 2 plays(XP and kickoff)... Crumpler was missing 2 bars so I start throwing to him.. He ended up catching 5 balls in a row and never got subbed out but his was missing 3 bars I believe....

I let them return the kickoff for 6 so I could get it back.. Next play Crump was out... I need to adjust my sub in sub out(you can't do that in game)..

I don't like beta testing games as it takes the fun away so I am done with that... But guys do fatigue slow.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:21 pm

Thought I would post my results with this patch. I guess it works as they said, but frankly I think it is not what most wanted, it is not what I wanted.

Players do tire, and in a somewhat realistic fashion. They don't tire easily in the begining of the game and they tire faster later in the game with a lot of use. You will se guys goin yellow and red etc.

The problem comes with the fact that they don't auto sub much and more importantly the only apparent effects are that players fumble more. They don't slow down or their ratings are not altered in anyway that I can tell.

I ran Thomas Jones 37 times in a 6 minute game, he was subbed out for 5 plays. Never once did someone on my defense get subbed although in fariness I was getting th opponent off the filed very quickly.

People are reporting different results, more like NCAA fatigue but I am not seeing it and I think those people are just seeing things

Possibly going to 8 minute quarters might help, but I don't know if it is worth the effort.

This game had a lot of potential, but it is just a disappointment for me. The problem is i will keep it just to fill my football fix which is sad.

kevinpars · Post by **kevinpars** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:32 am

I really have some serious problems with the graphics in this game - specifically the way the game is portrayed on a sunny day where there is both sunny and shadowed areas of the field. I played a game in Giant's stadium in which it was sunny, but the sun did not hit much of the field (it was a 1 pm game). The only way I can describe it is the way the network camera's used to be at games in Cowboy's stadium about 10 years back where moving from sun to shade would skew the camera and the bright would be too bright and the shade too dark. When playing on the shaded part of a field I have to sit close to the TV to see the ball and it looks just plain ugly (in high def). Like most effects, EA went overboard to the point of exaggeration and takes would should have been a positive (real time lighting and shadows) and made it a negative.

Am I the only one who sees this? It is so bad that I have taken to playing exhibition games in dome stadiums exclusively. Because of 360 hardware issues I have not had a chance to really dig into this game, and it is not turning into a fun experience. Despite some gameplay flaws, I still prefer NCAA over this game. I just don't know what it is about Madden, but it always seems so dry and boring. It amazes me that EA can hit the mark and make games like Tiger, NCAA and NHL that have excellent presentation and offer a lot of fun to the user, but Madden never has that "fun" feel. You never hear people say anything like "Despite some AI flaws, this game is so much fun that I keep playing it." I know it makes a ton of money for EA, but the development team needs some new faces to inject something into this game.

RallyMonkey · Post by **RallyMonkey** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 8:55 am

It amazes me that EA can hit the mark and make games like Tiger, NCAA and NHL that have excellent presentation and offer a lot of fun to the user, but Madden never has that "fun" feel. You never hear people say anything like "Despite some AI flaws, this game is so much fun that I keep playing it." I know it makes a ton of money for EA, but the development team needs some new faces to inject something into this game.

It's funny you say that Kevin. Sport and I were playing NHL the other night and after a few games we decided to try Madden after nearly a month hiatus. It was so boring that in a 14-14 game at the half we turned it off. A tie game and we can't even find excitement in it!! Like you, we couldn't pinpont why, it just doesn't have "it" like NCAA and NHL (using EA game comparisons only).

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:09 am

kevinpars wrote:I really have some serious problems with the graphics in this game - specifically the way the game is portrayed on a sunny day where there is both sunny and shadowed areas of the field. I played a game in Giant's stadium in which it was sunny, but the sun did not hit much of the field (it was a 1 pm game). The only way I can describe it is the way the network camera's used to be at games in Cowboy's stadium about 10 years back where moving from sun to shade would skew the camera and the bright would be too bright and the shade too dark. When playing on the shaded part of a field I have to sit close to the TV to see the ball and it looks just plain ugly (in high def). Like most effects, EA went overboard to the point of exaggeration and takes would should have been a positive (real time lighting and shadows) and made it a negative.

Am I the only one who sees this? It is so bad that I have taken to playing exhibition games in dome stadiums exclusively.

You are not the only one with the problem--I was playing at the Jets in my Colts season this weekend and thought the same thing. Actually, I keep my TV remote nearby so I can adjust the brightness to help me see what is going on in the game when playing on the road. I've also had problems using the "system clock" game time--it is somewhat dark but the game doesn't turn the stadium lights on. Awesome.

I still enjoy playing this game, but I agree that the fun factor just isn't there a lot of the time. If I don't have a lot of time to play the 360, I'll probably elect to play Test Drive or NHL.

Zeppo · Post by **Zeppo** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:04 am

kevinpars wrote: You never hear people say anything like "Despite some AI flaws, this game is so much fun that I keep playing it."

That's odd, because I say that to myself all the time. Of course, I only play online against people that I know, but I have a ton of fun playing Madden. In fact, I haven't touched NCAA in a good while, not because I don't like it, but because I have so much fun with Madden. The flaws and problems do bother me, but the fun factor is so damn high for me that I still really enjoy every single game I play.

A huge part of that enjoyment may also be due to playing franchise games online against friends, which makes those games and my franchise as a whole immesurably better than any other I've ever done before. Indeed, it's a lot more fun for me than otherwise.

I don't seem to have the lighting problems you report, either. I may have my display calibrated differently, though, but I'm not having those high-contrast issues.

seanmac31 · Post by **seanmac31** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:48 am

Zeppo wrote:
kevinpars wrote: You never hear people say anything like "Despite some AI flaws, this game is so much fun that I keep playing it."
That's odd, because I say that to myself all the time. Of course, I only play online against people that I know, but I have a ton of fun playing Madden. In fact, I haven't touched NCAA in a good while, not because I don't like it, but because I have so much fun with Madden. The flaws and problems do bother me, but the fun factor is so damn high for me that I still really enjoy every single game I play.

A huge part of that enjoyment may also be due to playing franchise games online against friends, which makes those games and my franchise as a whole immesurably better than any other I've ever done before. Indeed, it's a lot more fun for me than otherwise.

I don't seem to have the lighting problems you report, either. I may have my display calibrated differently, though, but I'm not having those high-contrast issues.

I'm with you. I think Madden is significantly more fun than NCAA this year. Partly that's because I'm an NFL guy, but mostly it's because the control is better.

MUTTS · Post by **MUTTS** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 12:21 pm

I'm definitely a college football guy but Madden gets the time in my 360 and not NCAA right now. For some reason, I get more realistic gameplay from Madden although it does have its flaws (and I agree with the above lighting issues). I'm trying to sell NCAA and then I'll grab Tiger and NHL 07.

Tony

AJColossal · Post by **AJColossal** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:09 pm

How's Madden playing online? I've heard some have been complaining about lag.

kevinpars · Post by **kevinpars** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:05 am

That may be it - I am more of an NCAA guy to begin with. I can probably overlook some things in NCAA that I can't in Madden.

I do think the AI in Madden is better than in NCAA, although it is still too easy for a slow QB to roll out of the pocket and either run or throw. I

It is funny how gamers can see things differently. For example, I prefer the xbox version of NCAA because it seems like the momentum is handled better on that version. But there was a thread over at OS where people had the completely opposite opinion and felt like the momentum in the 360 version was better implemented.