Moto GP 3 Poker Night Wednesday

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:02 am

I'm jealous boys. I haven't had a chance to pick this one up yet and won't until tomorrow at the earliest. My wife's birthday was yesterday and I've got the Bears game tonight. How about some more impressions?

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:14 am

Scoop:

Any specifics of which you're curious? I'll try to answer any of your questions.

In a nutshell, if you liked either Moto GP or Moto GP 2, you'll love this game.

One observation: I really thought the Extreme tracks would be hokey as hell. Stupid design, outer-space stuff. Wrong. Some of them are fantastic. Really good design and fun based on the locales they're trying to represent.

Take care,
PK

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:37 am

Thanks PK. Basically I just wanted to know if the control was as tight as the past 2. I was a big fan of those titles and was hoping they didn't really screw anything up. It sounds like it's Moto GP 2 with more added. That's exactly what I wanted. Hopefully I will have it by tomorrow.

TCrouch · Post by **TCrouch** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:45 am

Ugh...I wasn't picking this one up....

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:46 am

Scoop:

Control is very tight. Only differences I can feel are that the engine braking is less effective, as Kruza said, and the mechanical brakes don't seem quite as effective. That makes the game a bit more of a sim, in my opinion, which is a good thing!

Handling and sliding characteristics of the bike seem unchanged from Moto GP 2, another good thing.

I love the Live awareness of this game and how you can play your career online or offline, like Forza.

Take care,
PK

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:01 am

You guys might not have recognized me, but I was on with you guys for a little bit last night. My gamertag is NM156.

I only had like 3 options for riders. Sometime soon I need to create my own bike. I was definitely rusty, and using the S-Controller didn't help. I usually use my Logitech wireless, but I wanted the headset so I went back to the other controller. That just made things worse, as I had to adjust to the stick sensitivity. I also had troubles with the headset. I could not hear anyone.

I now need to practice a bit in order to get back into a groove. I was all over the place last night

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:04 am

matthewk wrote:You guys might not have recognized me, but I was on with you guys for a little bit last night. My gamertag is NM156.

Ah-ha! Had no idea!

When you entered the room, I remember saying, "Hey, who the f*ck is that guy?" Why didn't you identify yourself, Matt?

See you soon.

Take care,
PK

slimer · Post by **slimer** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:13 am

I forgot how hard riding these things is for me. I use the right analog stick for gas with the triggers for brakes and it is quite an adjustment from Toca and Forza. I ripped the shrink wrap off and jumped straight in to a lobby with all of you guys running the fantasy tracks that I had never seen before. I promptly brought up the rear every race when I wasn't knocking people down first. I need some offline time to get the feel back again. I was never great, but I usually didn't embarass my self.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:38 am

Slimer:

You've identified the reason why I think this game is hard to characterize as arcade or sim.

Yeah, it's not a pure sim as far as handling, etc., but it sure as hell isn't a point-and-shoot arcade game, either.

The MGP series always has struck that perfect balance between difficulty and playability that's so elusive for many racing game designers.

This game is mega fun, but there's nothing easy about it.

Take care,
PK

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:50 am

I mainly did some hot-lapping last night at the Sausage Ring and I think Jerez...

Getting to a level where I get <5 seconds of penalty time a lap is going to take a while. The smoothness required is beyond my abilities right now. I'm missing apexes, then over-compensating for that, going wide, getting on the throttle too soon, over-cornering, etc. etc.

But, despite putting up times between 1:18 and 1:25 at Sausage, it was a blast trying to point and shoot the bike around.

Whenever I get online with this, I'll try not to crash anyone when getting lapped!

AcemanPR · Post by **AcemanPR** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:59 am

Once you race that awesome lap, the feeling is so rewarding. That is what makes this game great!

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:11 pm

AcemanPR wrote:Once you race that awesome lap, the feeling is so rewarding. That is what makes this game great!

Indeed. When you're "in the zone" in this game, it's probably more rewarding than any console racing game experience I can think of except for maybe a ripping lap of the 'Ring in Project Gotham Racing 2.

Can't wait to race again tonight!

Take care,
PK

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:11 pm

matthewk wrote:I also had troubles with the headset. I could not hear anyone.

I had trouble hearing people as well. I would see Sport's and Web's indicator pop up a lot, but I couldn't make out what they were saying (probably "f*ck" or "stop slamming on your brakes when I least expect it, ass"). I had absolutely no trouble hearing PK though, especially while he is laughing while running me over after I crashed

This is my favorite online racing series by a fairly large margin. It provided me with my first jaw dropping moment on XBL with the demo and it will provide me with many more.

I like how you can jump in and play without having the courses memorized. I'm sure it helps and it will only get better, but I think the on screen indicators are very nice for a novice racer.

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:30 pm

Leebo33 wrote:
matthewk wrote:I also had troubles with the headset. I could not hear anyone.
I had trouble hearing people as well. I would see Sport's and Web's indicator pop up a lot, but I couldn't make out what they were saying (probably "f*ck" or "stop slamming on your brakes when I least expect it, ass"). I had absolutely no trouble hearing PK though, especially while he is laughing while running me over after I crashed

This is my favorite online racing series by a fairly large margin. It provided me with my first jaw dropping moment on XBL with the demo and it will provide me with many more.

I like how you can jump in and play without having the courses memorized. I'm sure it helps and it will only get better, but I think the on screen indicators are very nice for a novice racer.

I'm pretty sure in Moto GP 2 you could only hear the guy in front of you and the guy behind you after the race starts. It's been a while though so I could be wrong.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 12:40 pm

ScoopBrady wrote:I'm pretty sure in Moto GP 2 you could only hear the guy in front of you and the guy behind you after the race starts. It's been a while though so I could be wrong.

That's the case with this game, too.

Take care,
PK

Sport73 · Post by **Sport73** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:01 pm

The communication problems extended into the Lobby for me; I could only hear PK the entire time. Needless to say, I quit and went to play something else...

Still, the game itself is great, even though I absolutely suck at this point.

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:19 pm

Sport73 wrote:The communication problems extended into the Lobby for me; I could only hear PK the entire time.

That's not the lobby, pk just doesn't know how to shut the f*** up.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:20 pm

ScoopBrady wrote:
Sport73 wrote:The communication problems extended into the Lobby for me; I could only hear PK the entire time.
That's not the lobby, pk just doesn't know how to shut the f*** up.

True dat!

Take care,
PK

Kruza · Post by **Kruza** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:29 pm

slimer wrote:I forgot how hard riding these things is for me. I use the right analog stick for gas with the triggers for brakes and it is quite an adjustment from Toca and Forza. I ripped the shrink wrap off and jumped straight in to a lobby with all of you guys running the fantasy tracks that I had never seen before. I promptly brought up the rear every race when I wasn't knocking people down first. I need some offline time to get the feel back again. I was never great, but I usually didn't embarass my self.

Do you set your own control scheme in MotoGP 3 to set throttle, brakes, etc. similar to that of TOCA and Forza? There is complete customization in MotoGP 3, and I personally don't even bother trying to race under defualt controls except for the cases I have to use independent brakes in order to compete a couple of Tutorial lessons.

Kruza

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:22 pm

ScoopBrady wrote:I'm pretty sure in Moto GP 2 you could only hear the guy in front of you and the guy behind you after the race starts. It's been a while though so I could be wrong.

Yep. I occassionally had trouble hearing the racers in front and behind as well. I could usually hear everyone in the lobby except for Sport.

Boom · Post by **Boom** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:26 pm

MotoGP really is one of the most rewarding racing games out there, regardless of platform.

I didn't play MotoGP 2, so I'm playing some serious catch-up. However, it didn't take long for me to remember why I would stay up late at night and play the MotoGP demo and then later the full game.

Like Ace stated above, once you run that perfect lap... or in my case, just that perfect turn or two (cause I'm a looooong ways off from the perfect lap) you just really want to strive to get even better.

I don't like this type of racing in real life. You'd never catch me watching this stuff and I don't know jack about it. But I do know that MotoGP is one of the most fun racing games around!

slimer · Post by **slimer** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:35 pm

Kruza wrote:
slimer wrote:I forgot how hard riding these things is for me. I use the right analog stick for gas with the triggers for brakes and it is quite an adjustment from Toca and Forza. I ripped the shrink wrap off and jumped straight in to a lobby with all of you guys running the fantasy tracks that I had never seen before. I promptly brought up the rear every race when I wasn't knocking people down first. I need some offline time to get the feel back again. I was never great, but I usually didn't embarass my self.

Do you set your own control scheme in MotoGP 3 to set throttle, brakes, etc. similar to that of TOCA and Forza? There is complete customization in MotoGP 3, and I personally don't even bother trying to race under defualt controls except for the cases I have to use independent brakes in order to compete a couple of Tutorial lessons.

Kruza

So you use R and L trigger for gas and (front/rear brake)? BBReBozo (sp?) did that too, and y'all are both way faster than me. I have tried it a few times but I feel like I am missing something in not having independent brakes. Of course, I don't really remember which one will help you cut a tight turn etc. I am going to try this again tonight.

Kruza · Post by **Kruza** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 2:54 pm

You want to powerslide a bit to create a tighter turning circle? In that case, you need independent brakes for that because you have to hit the rear brake and briefly lock it up in order to initiate it.

Eh... powersliding around corners is pretty cool to do, but it's not my riding style. I just can't get it right consistently racing with the default control scheme so I gave up trying. There's no doubt it's the faster way to handle corners though. Looks nice when you pull it off too.

And here's my control scheme:

L trigger - Brake
R trigger - Throttle
A - Upshift
X - Downshift
B - Rearview mirror
Y - Change camera view
L thumbstick - Steer (left/right); Tuck in (up); Stand up (down)
R thumbstick - Shift gears (up/down)
Black & White buttons - Skip music track

Kruza

DChaps · Post by **DChaps** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:07 pm

Boom wrote:I don't like this type of racing in real life. You'd never catch me watching this stuff and I don't know jack about it. But I do know that MotoGP is one of the most fun racing games around!

You should at least give it a try. MotoGP is great. Rossi may be one of the greatest, or at least most exciting racers of all time. Check it out sometime on Speed. It only lasts an hour so you don't need to give up a whole Sunday afternoon like with Nascar.

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:31 pm

Kruza wrote:And here's my control scheme:

L trigger - Brake
R trigger - Throttle
A - Upshift
X - Downshift
B - Rearview mirror
Y - Change camera view
L thumbstick - Steer (left/right); Tuck in (up); Stand up (down)
R thumbstick - Shift gears (up/down)
Black & White buttons - Skip music track

Kruza, thanks for the advice on the setup. This should help me concentrating on leaning the bike properly and hitting apexes rather than worrying about which brake I'm using.