MLB 11 The Show a quick tidbit

[GTHobbes]

Yep, not a hint of gameplay, nor a reveal of new features. Yet GT has stained his pants.

Even the most die-hard 2K fan has acknowledged that The Show not only looks better, but really, stands on its own in just how polished its graphics and animations are. Not a single person on this board that has talked about preferring 2K10 would say that 2K has a better game. It's got problems. But the one think it has going for it, that The Show seems to be losing, it is damn fun to play.

But hey, hyperbole theater is a fun place to live, isn't it, GT?

What does 2k10 have to do with The Show 11's debut trailer? I'm looking forward to trying 2k's baseball game, too. I'm a baseball fanatic and wouldn't mind having 2 (or 10) great baseball games to play. But I don't understand why you'd feel the need to mention 2k here. Or, how you can make the statement that "the Show seems to be losing" being fun, based upon what is shown in this trailer.

Anyways, we just see the world differently, man. It's okay. I've looked forward to early news of baseball games since having to look at EGM and other magazines in super markets back in the days before the internet. Given the enjoyment I've gotten out of the Show the past however many years, and the visual improvements that are readily apparent from the trailer, you're absolutely right that I'm extremely excited. Isn't that what the videogame hobby is all about?

[Rodster]

Yep, not a hint of gameplay, nor a reveal of new features. Yet GT has stained his pants.

Even the most die-hard 2K fan has acknowledged that The Show not only looks better, but really, stands on its own in just how polished its graphics and animations are. Not a single person on this board that has talked about preferring 2K10 would say that 2K has a better game. It's got problems. But the one think it has going for it, that The Show seems to be losing, it is damn fun to play.

But hey, hyperbole theater is a fun place to live, isn't it, GT?

Sums it up for me, said it numerous times. The Show is one of the baseball games ever made but it has lost the fun factor for me which is why I played 2K10 almost exclusively last year.

[Rodster]

But I don't understand why you'd feel the need to mention 2k here. Or, how you can make the statement that "the Show seems to be losing" being fun, based upon what is shown in this trailer.

It's like inserting Backbreaker in a Madden thread.

[GTHobbes]

IGN's preview is up -- I wonder if the actual TV camera angles will apply to cameras around the field, in addition to just the pitcher/batter matchup. That would be really pretty cool. I also like the sound of being able to pick my own camera angle and "lock on" -- also glad to hear it can be saved.

"And Sony matched the actual camera angles of each and every stadium in the MLB so the most avid fans will see the small presentational difference as they play through a season. For the truly fervent player, Sony's added full camera customization—you'll be able to move the camera anywhere you like with the analog stick then lock it off and save it to your custom preferences. As another show of listening to their fan feedback, Sony has replaced Rex Hudler with Eric Karros after fans voiced some complaints.

Developing sports games is one of the most merciless tasks in the video game industry. Developers never have enough time or money, and their fan base is among the most knowledgeable and impassioned in the industry. That's why it was so impressive (and exhausting) to listen to Sony enumerate all of the new additions they've squeezed into an already encyclopedic game of stats, detail, and mechanical nuance. The Sony rep never seemed to run out of "one more thing" to show me. Whatever happens with the game when it is released, it's clear MLB 11: The Show is a product of serious enthusiasm and care."

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/114/1140079p1.html

[GTHobbes]

But I don't understand why you'd feel the need to mention 2k here. Or, how you can make the statement that "the Show seems to be losing" being fun, based upon what is shown in this trailer.

It's like inserting Backbreaker in a Madden thread.

The crazy thing to me is, it's generally the same guys who give The Show, NBA2k, Backbreaker (and formerly, NFL2k) a hard time that have been the biggest Tiburon defenders over the years. Something just doesn't add up.

[Rodster]

But I don't understand why you'd feel the need to mention 2k here. Or, how you can make the statement that "the Show seems to be losing" being fun, based upon what is shown in this trailer.

It's like inserting Backbreaker in a Madden thread.

The crazy thing to me is, it's generally the same guys who give The Show, NBA2k, Backbreaker (and formerly, NFL2k) a hard time that have been the biggest Tiburon defenders over the years. Something just doesn't add up.

Hey I have zero problems with you giving Tiburon a hard time, it's well deserved in some cases but OTOH I see no problem bringing up some of the negative things regarding the Show. We are trying to improve both products right?

[Aristo]

Yep, not a hint of gameplay, nor a reveal of new features. Yet GT has stained his pants.

Even the most die-hard 2K fan has acknowledged that The Show not only looks better, but really, stands on its own in just how polished its graphics and animations are. Not a single person on this board that has talked about preferring 2K10 would say that 2K has a better game. It's got problems. But the one think it has going for it, that The Show seems to be losing, it is damn fun to play.

But hey, hyperbole theater is a fun place to live, isn't it, GT?

What does 2k10 have to do with The Show 11's debut trailer? I'm looking forward to trying 2k's baseball game, too. I'm a baseball fanatic and wouldn't mind having 2 (or 10) great baseball games to play. But I don't understand why you'd feel the need to mention 2k here. Or, how you can make the statement that "the Show seems to be losing" being fun, based upon what is shown in this trailer.

Well, you missed the point, but that is not surprising.

2K got brought up becasue I was emphasizing just how pointless a trailer with great graphics really is. No one, even a 2K fanboy, has ever considered the look of The Show to be anything less than stellar. So when you jizz all over teaser that just reinforces what everyone already knows, you come off a little hype machine boy with zero objectivity.

The most significant think I have read about the show is the inclusion of default analog controls for pitching, hitting, and fielding. So of course, I want to see how well it works. But all we get from you is hyperbole theater over a freaking teaser that could just as easily represent last year's game. not in a bad way, it looks great. But it could not be less newsworthy.

The fact is, EA could release a teaser that makes Madden look that good, but it would be pointless. It would be nice if you could just enjoy discussing the games without this need to shill for them.

[GTHobbes]

It would be nice if you could just enjoy discussing the games without this need to shill for them.

Dude, it's a hype trailer for a great game. WTF do you want me to discuss? The colors of their socks?

[GTHobbes]

The fact is, EA could release a teaser that makes Madden look that good[.]

I doubt it.

[GameSeven]

[matthewk]

The crazy thing to me is, it's generally the same guys who give The Show, NBA2k, Backbreaker (and formerly, NFL2k) a hard time that have been the biggest Tiburon defenders over the years. Something just doesn't add up.

"Cha-ching!"

[wco81]

The fact is, EA could release a teaser that makes Madden look that good[.]

I doubt it.

Have people forgotten that concept video (that was even shown on TV that year) before Madden 2006 was released on the 360 for the first time?

[Rodster]

The fact is, EA could release a teaser that makes Madden look that good[.]

I doubt it.

Have people forgotten that concept video (that was even shown on TV that year) before Madden 2006 was released on the 360 for the first time?

Yeah I fell for that one and then reality sunk in.

[Rodster]

The crazy thing to me is, it's generally the same guys who give The Show, NBA2k, Backbreaker (and formerly, NFL2k) a hard time that have been the biggest Tiburon defenders over the years. Something just doesn't add up.

"Cha-ching!"

Except Backbreaker wasn't very good so it's criticism was well warranted and then the developer bailed and went to sell games on the Iphone and Ipod.

[GTHobbes]

The fact is, EA could release a teaser that makes Madden look that good[.]

I doubt it.

Have people forgotten that concept video (that was even shown on TV that year) before Madden 2006 was released on the 360 for the first time?

I don't think it's really fair to compare a Show trailer -- using in-game graphics -- with a Madden "concept" video that a) didn't look that great to begin with, and b) clearly didn't use in-game graphics, which we still haven't seen out of the Tiburon bunch 6 years later.

[AJColossal]

From the IGN article:

Sony has included balks for the first time in the series

Thank you! Been asking for this for a while. Really one of the last things that happen in real baseball that the Show just completely neglected.

The fielding explanation was completely convoluted, because they said on one hand that throwing errors are completely determined by user skill, and later the article went on to say that the player attributes play a role.

I'll just hope for the latter.

[Rodster]

From the IGN article:

Sony has included balks for the first time in the series

Thank you! Been asking for this for a while. Really one of the last things that happen in real baseball that the Show just completely neglected.

The fielding explanation was completely convoluted, because they said on one hand that throwing errors are completely determined by user skill, and later the article went on to say that the player attributes play a role.

I'll just hope for the latter.

That's definitely a plus.

[sportdan30]

I've only had the chance to read the Jon Robinson preview, but for me personally it warrants a first day purchase. There's definitely enough new additions that I am excited about. I certainly would have liked to read more about the presentation, but hopefully there will be some news on that as March creeps closer. They obviously realized that Hudler had to go, and hopefully the addition of Karros will bring more to the game. Time will tell.

It doesn't sound to me at all that The Show developers are content and sitting on their laurels. The new analog controls specifically point that out. The devs are without a doubt the best in terms of keeping open communication leading up to release. I can certainly understand if you are tired of the gameplay and controls. That's bound to happen if you play a game long enough.

[wco81]

I think the guessing pitch mechanic is overemphasized.

Batters look for the spin of the ball at the release point but game systems can't really render that now.

[Dave]

I usually don't care much for pre-order incentives, but I read the MLB 11 deal is that you get 30 days of MLB.tv free. That's a very cool way to leverage the license.

[GTHobbes]

Another hands on preview:

"Graphically, the game is more detailed than MLB 10: The Show with better crowds, more realistic environments, and more detailed player models. The development team took more time with MLB 11: The Show and captured additional player motions, so more players will now perform their own unique rituals on the mound or in the batter’s box. The sense of being in the stadium has been greatly enhanced in this title and you'll feel like you are watching a real game.

For those with a 3D TV, MLB 11: The Show is going to be one of the highlight games for it. Honestly, you’ll feel like you are up to bat when you see the game in 3D. To be able to tell the depth of the ball and see it approach makes batting feel much more realistic. Sony is making a strong push for 3D gaming and their titles for early-2011 will start making believers of many gamers."

http://www.examiner.com/video-game-in-n ... ball-games

[backbreaker]

Another hands on preview:

"Graphically, the game is more detailed than MLB 10: The Show with better crowds, more realistic environments, and more detailed player models. The development team took more time with MLB 11: The Show and captured additional player motions, so more players will now perform their own unique rituals on the mound or in the batter’s box. The sense of being in the stadium has been greatly enhanced in this title and you'll feel like you are watching a real game.

For those with a 3D TV, MLB 11: The Show is going to be one of the highlight games for it. Honestly, you’ll feel like you are up to bat when you see the game in 3D. To be able to tell the depth of the ball and see it approach makes batting feel much more realistic. Sony is making a strong push for 3D gaming and their titles for early-2011 will start making believers of many gamers."

http://www.examiner.com/video-game-in-n ... ball-games

I like the sound of 3D. I will be picking up mine right before the Superbowl. I looking at 46 to 55 inches LED edge and back lit(full array). Looks like they put their foot into this one and I'm on board. I was one of the ones stating how stale the game has gotten, been playing for far too long. Now with MVP NCAA's analog system(so glad they went that route). Seeing some of the images is cool as well, now base runners P.I.P has baserunning ability and speed attributes in the window, something I have wanted for years.

Analog controls check
base running abilities in PIP check
New player models check
Dynamic weather Check
true day/night check
custom camera's check


Now I'm waiting on how the handle commentary and presentation what new life outside of custom chants, custom music have they added.

SCEA San Diego is breathing new life into the franchise.

[vinny-b]

per 'dynamic weather'

wondering what this will entail. The preview stated 'rain effects' and a damp field. Yet nothing, of rain delays, tarps, etc. I understand SCEA doesn't wish to open up a can of worms relative to schedule changes. But can we at least have delays and a tarp-team?

additionally, will the 2011 title have 'cold weather' effects? As the MLB season becomes increasingly longer, the impact of cold weather on the game becomes more profound (ie how very cold temperatures effect the baseball).

Wrigley field and wind effects? Arlington Texas nights and heat effects?

[backbreaker]

Another hands on preview:

"Graphically, the game is more detailed than MLB 10: The Show with better crowds, more realistic environments, and more detailed player models. The development team took more time with MLB 11: The Show and captured additional player motions, so more players will now perform their own unique rituals on the mound or in the batter’s box. The sense of being in the stadium has been greatly enhanced in this title and you'll feel like you are watching a real game.

For those with a 3D TV, MLB 11: The Show is going to be one of the highlight games for it. Honestly, you’ll feel like you are up to bat when you see the game in 3D. To be able to tell the depth of the ball and see it approach makes batting feel much more realistic. Sony is making a strong push for 3D gaming and their titles for early-2011 will start making believers of many gamers."

http://www.examiner.com/video-game-in-n ... ball-games

I like the sound of 3D. I will be picking up mine right before the Superbowl. I looking at 46 to 55 inches LED edge and back lit(full array). Looks like they put their foot into this one and I'm on board. I was one of the ones stating how stale the game has gotten, been playing for far too long. Now with MVP NCAA's analog system(so glad they went that route). Seeing some of the images is cool as well, now base runners P.I.P has baserunning ability and speed attributes in the window, something I have wanted for years.

Analog controls check
base running abilities in PIP check
New player models check
Dynamic weather Check My bad Weather effects thanks vinny
true day/night check
custom camera's check


Now I'm waiting on how the handle commentary and presentation what new life outside of custom chants, custom music have they added.

SCEA San Diego is breathing new life into the franchise.

[AJColossal]

per 'dynamic weather'

wondering what this will entail. The preview stated 'rain effects' and a damp field. Yet nothing, of rain delays, tarps, etc. I understand SCEA doesn't wish to open up a can of worms relative to schedule changes. But can we at least have delays and a tarp-team?

additionally, will the 2011 title have 'cold weather' effects? As the MLB season becomes increasingly longer, the impact of cold weather on the game becomes more profound (ie how very cold temperatures effect the baseball).

Wrigley field and wind effects? Arlington Texas nights and heat effects?

Good questions, Vinny. Weather effects do open up a ton of possibilities, don't they? My guess it'll be more of a cosmetic thing, but we'll see.

Not sure if it's been discussed here, but Rex Hudler is out of the game as well.