MLB: 10 The Show -- First Look

Gurantsu · Post by **Gurantsu** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:16 pm

The improvements look right up my alley, I've already pre-ordered. I doubt you can take your current RTTS player into the new game, huh? Still, I'm anxious to try a new one as a catcher.

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:54 am

Just traded in my '09 copy and picked up NHL10 to pass the time until this comes out.

Definately a release day purchase. Best sports game I have ever played.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:45 am

I would like to see updated commentary ala NBA 2K10 but I want the team, minus Rex to stay the same. I still think it's top class and some like a radio broadcast.

With that said MLB2K9 really stepped up and did an outstanding job with my favorite play by play announcer on the planet Gary Thorne.

GTHobbes · Post by **GTHobbes** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:49 am

When asked about 3D, the guy from SCEA had this to say:

"It's already working we have a setup at CES with the Show in 3D and it looks amazing. (Yes I'm a homer)"

Also, there is a first clip from CES up on youtube, but unfortunately it only shows the pitcher-batter confrontation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viEK_Goff30

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:25 am

working on what is the question?

It's not like I can go grab a copy of the Show, slap on some 3D glasses and expect it to work on any TV in my house.

GTHobbes · Post by **GTHobbes** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:09 pm

Danimal wrote:working on what is the question?

It's not like I can go grab a copy of the Show, slap on some 3D glasses and expect it to work on any TV in my house.

I'm not in any real hurry to run out and buy a new 3D television either, but it's great knowing the guys at SCEA already have it working for when the day comes I'm in the market for a new set.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:23 pm

Toshiba just announced their 3D HDTV.

I guess i'll pass on 3D gaming as i've done on the Bluray tech.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:59 pm

Rodster wrote:Toshiba just announced their 3D HDTV.

I guess i'll pass on 3D gaming as i've done on the Bluray tech.

Any announcement on pricing yet for these? I can't imagine they will be even remotely affordable, or comparable to the HDTVs that are currently on the market.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:06 pm

sportdan30 wrote:
Rodster wrote:Toshiba just announced their 3D HDTV.

I guess i'll pass on 3D gaming as i've done on the Bluray tech.
Any announcement on pricing yet for these? I can't imagine they will be even remotely affordable, or comparable to the HDTVs that are currently on the market.

I read yesterday and I forgot where that Sony's version is in the 5K range.

GTHobbes · Post by **GTHobbes** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 1:50 pm

Even with the crappy footage, this game is just beautiful. The new broadcast camera angle and the real time presentation look to be EXACTLY what I've been hoping for. March 2nd can't come soon enough for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W67uXzc-yRM

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ces-1 ... -the/60574

vinny-b · Post by **vinny-b** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:51 pm

that look TIGHT.

didn't expect 'real-time' to add this much. It looks like YES network footage. minus Michael Kay

Jackdog · Post by **Jackdog** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 2:59 pm

GTHobbes wrote:Even with the crappy footage, this game is just beautiful. The new broadcast camera angle and the real time presentation look to be EXACTLY what I've been hoping for. March 2nd can't come soon enough for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W67uXzc-yRM

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ces-1 ... -the/60574

Damn. Very nice. Broadcast camera is sweet!! Target Field looks nice.

GameSeven · Post by **GameSeven** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:03 pm

Rodster wrote:
sportdan30 wrote:
Rodster wrote:Toshiba just announced their 3D HDTV.

I guess i'll pass on 3D gaming as i've done on the Bluray tech.
Any announcement on pricing yet for these? I can't imagine they will be even remotely affordable, or comparable to the HDTVs that are currently on the market.
I read yesterday and I forgot where that Sony's version is in the 5K range.

Latter generation DLP sets such as my Samsing are 3D-capable, though until source material is out, there is little incentive for me to spend the money on the upgrade ( $100+ ) to sample the tech.

Regrettably, Samsung got out of the DLP Rear projection arena, but for those who can accomodate a set, Mitsubishi makes some nice 3D-capable sets for $1-2K

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:44 pm

JackDog wrote:
GTHobbes wrote:Even with the crappy footage, this game is just beautiful. The new broadcast camera angle and the real time presentation look to be EXACTLY what I've been hoping for. March 2nd can't come soon enough for me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W67uXzc-yRM

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/ces-1 ... -the/60574
Damn. Very nice. Broadcast camera is sweet!! Target Field looks nice.

I love the broadcast camera too! It looks different than last year, but I can't put my finger on it. It just looks more real or natural. And I love the real time. This game is just looking and sounding ridiculously awesome.

GTHobbes · Post by **GTHobbes** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:41 pm

Can't really notice the 3D from the video, but here's video of someone playing it in 3D at CES. What a beautiful game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3flB_rJj ... re=related

Jackdog · Post by **Jackdog** » Fri Jan 08, 2010 10:10 pm

GTHobbes wrote:Can't really notice the 3D from the video, but here's video of someone playing it in 3D at CES. What a beautiful game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3flB_rJj ... re=related

It would be wild to play The Show in 3D. I'm intrigued,but my wallet just told me to shut up and sit down.

vinny-b · Post by **vinny-b** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 7:53 am

JackDog wrote:It would be wild to play The Show in 3D. I'm intrigued,but my wallet just told me to shut up and sit down.

lol. The same

dougb · Post by **dougb** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:05 am

JackDog wrote:
GTHobbes wrote:Can't really notice the 3D from the video, but here's video of someone playing it in 3D at CES. What a beautiful game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3flB_rJj ... re=related
It would be wild to play The Show in 3D. I'm intrigued,but my wallet just told me to shut up and sit down.

Sure that was your wallet and not your wife?

Best wishes,

Doug

Jackdog · Post by **Jackdog** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:22 am

dougb wrote:
JackDog wrote:
GTHobbes wrote:Can't really notice the 3D from the video, but here's video of someone playing it in 3D at CES. What a beautiful game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3flB_rJj ... re=related
It would be wild to play The Show in 3D. I'm intrigued,but my wallet just told me to shut up and sit down.
Sure that was your wallet and not your wife?

Best wishes,

Doug

snaz16 · Post by **snaz16** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:49 pm

JackDog wrote:
GTHobbes wrote:Can't really notice the 3D from the video, but here's video of someone playing it in 3D at CES. What a beautiful game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3flB_rJj ... re=related
It would be wild to play The Show in 3D. I'm intrigued,but my wallet just told me to shut up and sit down.

Hdguru is predicting that prices for the 3d hdtv's won't be a whole lot higher at all
http://hdguru.com/predictions-for-2010/1213/
I also read on Cnet's article about CES 2010,that Vizio has already priced thier 47" high end LCD at around $ 2000,and should be ready to ship at August. Cnet also mentioned that Vizio isn't always reliable on thier anouncements,but at least between the 2 articles,you got a reference point to start with.
I've been thinking about pulling the trigger this spring on a new tv,but may hold off a little longer and let this 3d stuff sort itself out. I'm very intrigued about this also

1 thing that bothered me in that Cnet article,a Sony rep mentioned that the ps3 with a firmware update would be capable of producing the 3d signal, but only be compatable w/ a Sony 3d tv. The Cnet editor thinks the the rep misspoke on that. I couldn't imagine Sony limiting themselves to that, locking out other tv manf. from playing 3d games and movies. But in this era of exclusive agreements,etc., who knows.

GTHobbes · Post by **GTHobbes** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:57 pm

I bought The Polar Express 3D Blu-Ray last Christmas and was able to watch that with the crappy 3D glasses that came with it on my big screen. If my TV could handle that, I wonder why new technology is needed?

GameSeven · Post by **GameSeven** » Sat Jan 09, 2010 2:32 pm

GTHobbes wrote:I bought The Polar Express 3D Blu-Ray last Christmas and was able to watch that with the crappy 3D glasses that came with it on my big screen. If my TV could handle that, I wonder why new technology is needed?

The Red-Blue (Anaglyph) glasses, necessarily impart a tint to the image that distorts the original source and is unable to reproduce certain colors properly.

The resulting image pales in comparison to a proper 3D display system using either polarized or shutter glasses, IMHO.

GTHobbes · Post by **GTHobbes** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:11 am

Saw this posted elsewhere from someone who played the game at CES. The broadcast cam makes such a huge difference, IMO:

"First and foremost I would like to thank Russell for his time with me today. I know he's worn out from all the interviewing and the repetition of answering the same questions over and over. He is a very cool individual like many have said here in this forum.

Unfortunately I was not able to get to the area where he was at till late in the day (LONG STORY). I probably won't be able to answer very many questions but I will try to. I think Russell is probably the better person to ask when it comes to individual questions.

What I will do is try to give you an idea of what I thought about it and some of the questions I asked Russell. Remember.. I'm an ONLINE ONLY person. I don't know anything about franchise or RTTS.

Also I did take about 5 short video clips. This was when Russell was on break perhaps. When Russell came back I immediately introduced myself and he took about 30 minutes too show me the new things that have been implemented. So we threw a lot of balls down the middle and walk players intentionally so we could create double play scenarios and try to see all the new animations and such. Then we started up a real game between the Braves and Dodgers @ Dodger Stadium. Russell - Dodgers, Me - Braves (tried to match up the team he chose)

I will PM Russell FIRST to see if its allowed before I put the videos on YouTube. Unfortunately, there wasn't a lot of action in the clips I got but a lot of you guys have good attention to detail so maybe you'll see something new.

Impressions:

GRAPHICS -
I couldn't quite put my finger on it at first but the graphics jumped out at me immediately. I didn't know what was so different. Maybe its because I play online and the graphics suffer. But I can conclude that the lighting has improved greatly. The daylight transition looks nice too (Russell went thru each inning to show the transitions including the lights being turned on at the park).

The bats do indeed look much nicer than last years iteration. Saw the games played in Philadelphia, Minnesota, St. Louis, LAD. He mentioned that fireworks were added this year and I saw them in St. Louis during a night game when a player hit a homerun (Funny thing here: We were playing in MIN when a hometown player hit a homerun and the fireworks didn't go off. Russell jotted this down/made note of this error and pointed out you don't know because no one had played the game yet in that park!)

ANIMATIONS -

This part of the game got a lot of love. There are a lot of new throwing animations. Saw a lot of new different throws from the OF. This makes the game even more realistic of course. I saw other animation too like popping the mitt from a 1st baseman or the pumping of the first from a pitcher (seemed different from last year). There are all new wall climbs but we didn't see any. Pujols did his ritual after hitting a HR 428ft to dead center (actually we didn't see it but Russell said it would be there). The fireworks were nice addition after hometeam HR (for some reason I thought they were there last year).
We also saw a double play ball up the middle where the runner tries to take out the 2nd baseman. When the 2nd baseman threw the ball he lost velocity on his throw AND he almost did a handstand after he released the ball!!! Being able to break up double plays is a much WELCOMED addition!
I think Russell said their were like 15 added animations for when throwing at a batter. I saw at least 3 new ones. The best one that I had seen so far was the one behind the batter. There was also another where the batter would turn in his tricep (facing pitcher) to avoid being hit.

BALL PHYSICS -

Much Improved. When balls are hit down the line they don't just stop and wait to be picked up by the OF it will actually roll around in the corner. Ball collision detection is added. I saw balls get kicked around, ball hitting shin gaurd of the catcher and roll away. We shouldn't see the issue last year of balls going thru the pitcher or balls going completely thru a player's chest in the OF. There are choppers and dribblers. Seen a 1st baseman get eaten up by a chopper that rolled up his arm and on into RF. Flight of the ball looks more realistic as well.

GAMEPLAY-

Well as I've said I'm an ONLINE ONLY guy. Much to my suprise I was slow getting the bat off my shoulders. Offline is much faster it seems as I was late on almost everything. It took me a few innings to adjust but still felt that the game was so fast I couldn't watch the flight of the ball like I do with online.

Now Russell and I play for real! He chose the Dodgers (Billingsly) and I chose a team that was ranked next to his, the Braves (Lowe). Through 5 innings Russell had a 1-0 lead. I think hits were even around 4 or 5 a piece. I believe Furcal was at the plate and I hit him in the foot and the game locked up (I'm sure he jotted this down too!). Unfortunately then I had to go. My offline game sucks when it comes to hitting.

The pitching meter was tweaked a little. I got lost somewhat about what he was telling me but I think this is what he meant. When pitching if you hit the meter then your more likely to hit your spot or very close to your spot. However on the flipside if you miss then you can miss badly. So anotherwords, there should be less complaints about people saying they can't hit their spots if they hit their meter (however pitcher confidence, etc still has effects on outcome.

Three new pickoff moves. Very sweet. Tap the 'O' button and the pitcher will throw a weak toss over to 1B. Hold the 'O' button and the pitcher will make a strong pickoff throw. Double-tap the 'O' button and the pitcher will give you a deceptive pickoff move (think Petitte here).

Maybe the best thing I saw improved was the throws to homeplate not being way offline all the time. Now it seems when they are offline they catcher for the most part just had to stretch to reach it then move his body to the other side to apply the tag. This is attribute based so I'm sure someone with a more erratic or weaker arm would make the catcher move away from the plate.

SOUND -

What sound. Too damn noisy @ CES! A lot of commentary was still not in the game.

OPTIONS -
You can actually SCHEDULE a pitcher to be warmed up after a certain inning. This is real nice! You can also view your opponents bullpen from the start menu. Also when you are in the bullpen you can see the next 3 batters that are up on the opposing team!

CAMERA / PRESENTATION -
There are no cutscenes. Everything is in real time. Nice! It's hard to explain. Its just like on television when the camera switches to another part of the field. The broadcast camera will take some getting used to when fielding. I only tried it for a little bit but I can imagine that when getting grounders it could be tough to judge at times. Neither one of us had any problems for a couple innings so maybe it'll all be good. I think I still prefer the default camera. Not sure would need much more time with this to be sure.

ONLINE -
I made my case with how hard it was to get the MIC setup online with people because of the button mapping. He told me to PM him to remind him and he was going to talk with Jason about this. I wouldn't think it would be too hard to re-map the button but I'm no programmer! For us online gamers, let's pray that they can get this in before pressing!
Can't change camera view. They tried to get it in this year. Maybe next year.

That's all this old man can remember for now! I hope you guys enjoy the read. I hope I can get the videos upped to YouTube (pending Russel's approval). If not we should be seeing lots of gameplay footage from gametrailers.com soon.

UPDATE: Here are the VIDEOS:

VID 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwCRJDoQkbs
VID 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIcvC85nYxk
VID 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwiuHk80T9c
VID 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKL-O808TZM

Again I apologize for the poor quality due to me using the zoom. I don't own this recorder and didn't know the quality would suffer that bad."

vinny-b · Post by **vinny-b** » Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:56 pm

GTHobbes: thank you for re-posting this

it does look very positive. In particular the real-time. By the way is the new broadcast camera basically a synonym for real-time?

that said, this year i am reserving my excitement until i personally try RTTS in the 2010 version. Am strictly a RTTS person, and last year's version dissapointed me. The title was perfect except for the fielding camera (when playing in the outfield). Unlike MLB 08 (ps2) when playing as a center-fielder in 2009 the camera was panned out so far away, that you felt completely removed from the experience. No immersion factor when playing defense. To me, this was a game-stopper and had to abandon my dreams of being a CF'er in the Cubs organization, in favor of being a starting pitcher. Dissapointing

when playing the field in RTTS mode, SCEA either needs to revert back to the camera in 08 (ps2 version). Or better yet, offer a variety of camera angles. The point of RTTS is immersion. When playing as a centerfielder i don't want to feel like am watching the game on tv. I want to feel like i am on the field

end of rant