Madden 08 Hands On

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:29 am

pk500 wrote:
Rodster wrote:PK give this update a try. It's just a roster update with no player ratings. I may try it myself.

http://football-freaks.com/forums/index ... nload=1511
Thanks, dude. Sadly, if you go back and read the roster author comments from versions 1.1 of this roster, he indicates that he plans player updates in future versions.

UGH. It seems like people think their rosters aren't "real" if they don't f*ck with the ratings.

Take care,
PK

Yeah but he didn't touch the ratings in that set so your still good.

Wilk5280 · Post by **Wilk5280** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 11:06 am

RE the PC version. Is there away to adjust the custom controls for the play calling screen? I've got all the other controls to mimic those of the PS2 version, but cannot figure out how to change them for the playcalling screen.

James_E · Post by **James_E** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 12:19 pm

I have the game, I enjoy it as it is... but this stuff is funny:

http://gamers-creed.com/?p=354#more-354

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:08 pm

Does the PC version have gang tackles?

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:09 pm

Danimal wrote:Does the PC version have gang tackles?

Yes. Not to the extent of the 360 version, but they are still there.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:12 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:
Danimal wrote:Does the PC version have gang tackles?
Yes. Not to the extent of the 360 version, but they are still there.

Thanks

Acc clock still in? How about player roles from last year?

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:20 pm

Yes to accelerated clock. Not sure about player roles. Any help from others on that one?

Just an FYI: I'm not seeing the fumble or INT problems reported by some on the 360 and PS3 in the PC version, either.

Take care,
PK

fsquid · Post by **fsquid** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:25 pm

ok, let me ask the dumb question. What does the accelerated clock do? I haven't played Madden in years.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 4:32 pm

fsquid wrote:ok, let me ask the dumb question. What does the accelerated clock do? I haven't played Madden in years.

The clock every quarter starts at 15:00 even if you're playing quarters of a lesser length. The clock is accelerated while you're choosing plays, in a time-scaled fashion depending on what quarter length you choose.

Take care,
PK

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:03 pm

Actually the quarters are whatever length you choose. They will not start at 15 minutes. What happens is the play clock will automatically go down to around 18 seconds after a play is called. It basically adds the usual time between plays which usually doesn't get added in videogame football. That way if you choose a play in 10 seconds it still runs down the time. It makes for more realistic drive times and plays per game.

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:06 pm

pk500 wrote:
fsquid wrote:ok, let me ask the dumb question. What does the accelerated clock do? I haven't played Madden in years.
The clock every quarter starts at 15:00 even if you're playing quarters of a lesser length. The clock is accelerated while you're choosing plays, in a time-scaled fashion depending on what quarter length you choose.

Take care,
PK

That's not exactly how it works, at least in the Xbox version.

My understanding of of it is that you can choose any quarter length you want. Where the accelerated clock comes in is after you select a play, the clock winds down X number of seconds. This way, even if you choose a play within a sec or two, the play clock winds down to 20 seconds before you get to the LOS.

I think the reason for having such a feature is to better simulate the timing of a real game. Without the accel. clock, even if you manage the clock (usually by waiting to select a play or hike the ball) realistically, the CPU tends to get plays off too quickly. It's just an easier way to get a realistic number of plays in a game.

Edit: Yeah, just like Scoop said

I took too long wording it.

matthewk · Post by **matthewk** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:16 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:
Danimal wrote:Does the PC version have gang tackles?
Yes. Not to the extent of the 360 version, but they are still there.

I noticed them on the Xbox too. It's more like 2 man tackling than gang tackling though. The one I saw had 2 of my LBs stand up a HB in the hole and drive him onto his back.

I'll have to check out roles, but I know formation subs are still in there.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:47 pm

My mistake on the accelerated clock, fellas. Sorry.

Take care,
PK

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:45 pm

The is ONLY two man tackles on the 360 version. There's also a 3rd guy in to hump the two-man tackled but he never does anything. I've never seen a true 3 or 4 man tackle.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 6:56 pm

JRod wrote:The is ONLY two man tackles on the 360 version. There's also a 3rd guy in to hump the two-man tackled but he never does anything. I've never seen a true 3 or 4 man tackle.

So it's just a canned animation nothing more, nice EA. I know the PC version has two man tackles. I'm glad I went with the PC version this year.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:03 pm

Isn't EVERYTHING in the game canned?

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:32 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:Isn't EVERYTHING in the game canned?

You're right but I was hoping it would be more like the gang tackles in NFL2K5 where it looked more organic than what's currently in Madden and NCAA. The two man gang tackles always looked the same whereas in NFL2K5 it was more fluid. Sometimes in NFL2K5 you got hit by one guy and the other two or three defenders came in to finish you off. I didn't see that in the NCAA demo.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:37 pm

Rodster wrote:
dbdynsty25 wrote:Isn't EVERYTHING in the game canned?
You're right but I was hoping it would be more like the gang tackles in NFL2K5 where it looked more organic than what's currently in Madden and NCAA. The two man gang tackles always looked the same whereas in NFL2K5 it was more fluid. Sometimes in NFL2K5 you got hit by one guy and the other two or three defenders came in to finish you off. I didn't see that in the NCAA demo.

Those were always the best. I loved when the CPU would wrap-up a guy & then I'd come flying to take the dude down. good stuff.

Diablo25 · Post by **Diablo25** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 7:46 pm

Damn excessive turnovers are killing the game for me. last night less than 5 minutes in - 3 fumbles and an INT. BS.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:25 pm

greggsand wrote:Those were always the best. I loved when the CPU would wrap-up a guy & then I'd come flying to take the dude down. good stuff.

That happens in NCAA and Madden this year as well. Not quite as cool looking, but it's there.

kicko · Post by **kicko** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:39 pm

Diablo25 wrote:Damn excessive turnovers are killing the game for me. last night less than 5 minutes in - 3 fumbles and an INT. BS.

Don't turbo into a crowd, do you?

i stopped boosting into defenders and fumbles are like 1-2 a game, i only use it when after i break tackles.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:53 pm

kicko wrote:
Diablo25 wrote:Damn excessive turnovers are killing the game for me. last night less than 5 minutes in - 3 fumbles and an INT. BS.
Don't turbo into a crowd, do you?

i stopped boosting into defenders and fumbles are like 1-2 a game, i only use it when after i break tackles.

I always cover ball going into crowd...learned it at the school of losse balls

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:09 pm

Diablo25 wrote:Damn excessive turnovers are killing the game for me. last night less than 5 minutes in - 3 fumbles and an INT. BS.

It comes and goes. Last night was my first really excessive turnovers-for-TD game -- my opening season game in my Bears franchise, 9 minute quarters, INTs turned to 0 and Defensive Awareness at 30. I threw two picks with Grossman, one of which was returned for a TD, and also fumbled when Desmond Clark got absolutely drilled by a safety. Phillip Rivers threw three picks, two of which got taken to the house. None of the turnovers were really ridiculous in terms of how they happened, but three defensive TDs is a lot.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:13 pm

Brando70 wrote: but three defensive TDs is a lot.

Thats my key too...most of the TOs are okay...Over a season I dont think they will be too many...its the amount that get returned for TDs thats not right.

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:20 pm

XXXIV wrote:
Brando70 wrote: but three defensive TDs is a lot.
Thats my key too...most of the TOs are okay...Over a season I dont think they will be too many...its the amount that get returned for TDs thats not right.

I think it's because of the jumps the defenders get. In the actual league, a lot of picks involve the defender occupying the same space as the receiver, getting the ball, and going down. Because of the way DBs react in Madden, they often have a lot of momentum when they make a pick, and if the pass is to the side, they have a head start toward the end zone.