NHL 15

[GameSeven]

If it still does EASHL and the other stuff, it really might be the game worth buying for a lot of folks.

But, see, that's the Catch-22. NHL 15 on last-gen is purportedly a roster update, excepting the new dialog. *If* that's the case, then dedicated EASHL players have *zero* need for it, other than keeping current with other EASHL players who've decided to go forward... fragmenting the player base.

Don't get me wrong, I *want* the effort better expended on game play and I agree that the 'laundry list' post of missing modes is pretty disingenuous. The community is not up in arms over 3/4 of that list, I'd say. NHL 94 mode? Created plays?

But to regress, at best, 6 years (NHL 09 had 6v6 play) or, at worst, 11 years (NHL Rivals had 5v5 in 2003), in an increasingly online gaming world is an incredibly questionable move, especially when its sister product in FIFA had better online features a year prior on the hardware. Yes, I know FIFA has a bigger budget, but still... And, yes, I can forgive some of this transgression if OTP comes to next-gen somewhat soon.

That's why I think a cross-buy would be ideal. The community can move forward to 15 on next-gen, but last-gen could fill in for missing modes. By most accounts the last-gen version was a minimal investment by EA.

Instead, I'm an example of someone stuck with what appear to be two half-products and may refrain from either. If I had to get one, it would be next-gen, but at this point I'm not really certain what I'll do.

[vader29]

I'll mess around with the 360 version tonight as I believe my season ticket expires at midnight, it just said that I had less than a day left of season ticket when I logged on and started the download.

[Jimmydeicide]

But what have they done to the core gameplay ? The puck physics are better ? Im still hearing the AI sucks. All the teams are still going to play the same and the AI scores 10 seconds after you do .

Is the gameplay that much better because thats not what im reading.

[10spro]

I'm downloading the 360 Season Ticket version now. I know it is just going to be NHL 14+, but I'm curious about the modes. I'm wondering about what they left in versus removed because of the next Gen version. If it still does EASHL and the other stuff, it really might be the game worth buying for a lot of folks.

One thing I did noticed from the video posted yesterday us that the bounce of the puck after a dump in is more realistic. The rest of the game remains the same which is not too bad. Although for $60 to many an updated rosters and better dump physics may not sit well.

Let us know of any other changes if you notice it.

[TCrouch]

But what have they done to the core gameplay ? The puck physics are better ? Im still hearing the AI sucks. All the teams are still going to play the same and the AI scores 10 seconds after you do .

Is the gameplay that much better because thats not what im reading.

The puck physics being better can't be understated, though. How many times have you dumped it in, only to watch the puck somehow bounce 10 feet in the air in the corner, and you totally overskate the dump?

Being able to just ride up next to a guy and subtly nudge him and have him lose the puck, or not being able to get a crisp shot off when somebody is harrassing you. I haven't seen these massive AI issues, as I've battled back and forth with teams pretty evenly until one of us takes a penalty, and then penalty kills feel overwhelming. They're so good at hanging back and setting up shop unless you force the issue--and of course, when you force the issue, you usually leave an opening somewhere. I get scored on so much more on the PK now, and a lot of goals FOR me come on the power play, because I follow the same routine.

I don't know, maybe I'm a hockey idiot--but I have had some really fun games when I fire it up.

[TCrouch]

Also, the skating physics are pretty big, IMO. I can pressure guys on defense without the player completing some arbitrary circle animation that I didn't want. I can control my player much better, leading to a lot tighter gameplay when on D. I'm not just waiting for them to come up near the boards and blast them--I can incorporate an actual pressure defense, forcing them into mistakes on Hardcore mode.

[XXXIV]

If it still does EASHL and the other stuff, it really might be the game worth buying for a lot of folks.

But, see, that's the Catch-22. NHL 15 on last-gen is purportedly a roster update, excepting the new dialog. *If* that's the case, then dedicated EASHL players have *zero* need for it, other than keeping current with other EASHL players who've decided to go forward... fragmenting the player base.

Don't get me wrong, I *want* the effort better expended on game play and I agree that the 'laundry list' post of missing modes is pretty disingenuous. The community is not up in arms over 3/4 of that list, I'd say. NHL 94 mode? Created plays?

But to regress, at best, 6 years (NHL 09 had 6v6 play) or, at worst, 11 years (NHL Rivals had 5v5 in 2003), in an increasingly online gaming world is an incredibly questionable move, especially when its sister product in FIFA had better online features a year prior on the hardware. Yes, I know FIFA has a bigger budget, but still... And, yes, I can forgive some of this transgression if OTP comes to next-gen somewhat soon.

The bigger budget is just an EA excuse that has a huge hole in it. EA are the ones who allocate the resources. The ones who decided to gut the game.

FIFA did get in clubs with ONE LESS YEAR. Correction it will be TWO YEARS less time and thats if ( A BIG IF) it makes it into the game next year.

Maybe the game play is improved. Ill play my six hours and maybe Ill love the play. The problem with that it is it will make me that much more disgusted with this failure.

I wouldnt piss on this f***in game if it was on fire.

[Jimmydeicide]

I cant find my rant over at OS about the same thing 34 otherwise id paste it here.
I agree its not the customers fault they have a small team or whatever they are still charging the same as other games correct.
I know we have a choice not to buy but no other business could get away with these practices... well maybe car dealers... wait its the same feeling...

I totaly get it now, thanks EA. :thumbs up smiley guy:

[Jimmydeicide]

And oh yeh what the f*** am i supposed to do tonight? go for a walk with the wife? Enjoy the kids? clean the garage?

FFS

[Aristo]

Funny, after your post about the AI, I was going to tell you to stop listening to the teenagers at OS.

[Jimmydeicide]

Its not like im listening to some shmo rant on about come back AI, There are a few i used to league with and its what those guys say that i will listen too until next week of course then i can try it myself ...and probably love it and tell you all to stop crying like 6 yr olds.

[vader29]

Played first OTP drop in game on the 360 lost 4-2, of course they got their 4 goals on only 11 shots, both teams with robo goalies. Didn't see any basketball pucks, no fights in the game and it didn't let any hitting go on after the whistle.

[Jimmydeicide]

Pros or The Merv ?

[vader29]

Pros or The Merv ?

The Merv. Had a goal and an assist, probably was number 4 star of the game.

[XXXIV]

Pros or The Merv ?

The Merv. Had a goal and an assist, probably was number 4 star of the game.

Cool.

What if any differences are there in 15 from 14?

Do the jerseys creepily and unrealistically wave as you skate ?

Is the crowd excited like newly infected zombies?

[MizzouRah]

Just lost 8-1 to Buffalo.. good grief.. game is much harder for me so far this year. Although I've never played on "hardcore" before. Anyone know what that changes from simulation besides the speed of the game?

[vader29]

After playing around 15 drop in OTP games on the 360 last night the gameplay is definitely improved, only saw one guy all night able to use the cheese move to score a couple of goals with the wrist shot in the slot, all of the other games were very competitive the whole game. No more basketball puck dump ins is nice, collision physics work well and the commentary was smooth and a nice change from the old announcing crew, also the goonery after the whistle is for the most part gone, only saw a couple of instances with it after a late shot was taken on net. Everything else about the game is exactly the same as 14 with the menus and game modes though. Wish they would just give away a digital code for the old version with the next gen versions and that would probably make up for the lack of EASHL on it.

[Diablo25]

Man, I am seriously hedging on getting the next gen version. I love the way it plays but EASHL was ALL I played...other than some 1 v 1 games. I may hold off for a bit. Keep us posted on the 360 version. If we (Dragons) go for it I will get the 360 version.

[vader29]

[XXXIV]

At the very least they should remove that "If its in the game, its in the game" insulting bullsit from the games opening

Though it was funny when that came up before I played the game today.

[XXXIV]

[Inuyasha]

The CPU on the PP is just lethal in this game. They are so aggressive compared to last gen. When I'm down on a PP, I really feel like I'm a man short. Even when I'm on a PP, sometimes the CPU will attack if they have #'s instead of just dumping the puck each time.

[10spro]

The CPU on the PP is just lethal in this game. They are so aggressive compared to last gen. When I'm down on a PP, I really feel like I'm a man short. Even when I'm on a PP, sometimes the CPU will attack if they have #'s instead of just dumping the puck each time.

Yes, on all the matches that I lost it was due mainly to my inability to defend their tic tac toe plays which is fine. I fare rather well five on five but not when I am short handed.

[XXXIV]

No words.

At least these worthless cowards and liars are giving me something else to do on a saturday night besides play Dragon hockey.





This one had me laughing though....




YES YOU ARE!



Worst is being kind!

[XXXIV]

Too bad John Wooden wasnt around to help ramjagoff.



He would have kicked that lazy f*** in the place his nuts should have been if he had any to begin with.