OT The NCAA Football Season Discussion

HipE · Post by **HipE** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:42 am

The last few minutes of regulation and OT might be the most exciting football I have ever seen in my life, college or pro. The tying td and 2 pt conversion by OU, the pick six by OU to seemingly win the game, the unreal catch and lateral for the tying td at the end of regulation by Boise St, the 4th and 2 td pass in ot by Boise St, then one of the greatest single plays I have ever seen, the fake wr screen statue of liberty run to win the game on a 2 pt conversion! Unreal!

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 2:44 am

Probably the 2nd best game I have ever witnessed (followed closely by Miami coming back on Florida a few years ago). Ridiculous.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:44 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:Probably the 2nd best game I have ever witnessed (followed closely by Miami coming back on Florida a few years ago). Ridiculous.

Ugh. And to think the only game I recorded Monday was the Rose Bowl, which was a perfect waste of 45 minutes of my day.

Help, ESPN Classic!

Take care,
PK

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:09 am

So why didnt Boise st get to play Ohio St?

After watching Boise St beat Oklahoma and the seeing way USC handled Michigan I have no choice to to move Boise st to #1 in my own personal poll....

Congratulations to Boise St on a well earned , and mythical ( though not that much less mythical than the one being played for by Fla and OSU)XXXIV national championship!!!

I dont wanna hear any crying from Columbus either...If Ohio st had played Wisconsin this year I might consider them as co national champs if they beat the Gators but since the big 10 refuses to crown a real champ...too bad.

* Please no death threats...Im mostly kidding

mostly

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:51 am

It will be interesting if Ohio State loses. Florida will of course be #1, but it will be a giant amount of egg on the system if the only undefeated team isn't the #1 team.

The Broncos should be ranked #2, though. I realize their schedule isn't as hard as many other teams but they did the job and won 13 games.

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:12 pm

One of the best games I've ever seen in my life. And definitely the best exhibition game.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:42 pm

If anyone sees an ESPN Classic listing of this game, please post.

Hook-and-ladder and Statue of Liberty plays in the same game? This is must-see TV.

Thanks,
PK

kevinpars · Post by **kevinpars** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:43 pm

First I turn off the Seminoles bowl win when I shut the TV off in disgust after a 4th down Delay of Game penalty (and miss a 30 yard TD pass on the next play followed by 2 more TDs to end the game) and then I shut off the Fiesta bowl after the pick 6. "Oklahoma won and i have to work in the morning" I told my wife. Lesson learned.

AcemanPR · Post by **AcemanPR** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:44 pm

That Fiesta Bowl was absolutely incredible last night. After OU scored that game tying 2-pt. conversion, I figured the game would be going into overtime knotted at 28. Then Zabransky throws that horrible pass that was picked and returned for 6. Something told me that the game wasn't over. However, when it was 4th and 18, I was thinking "This sucks, Boise St. led the whole game until under 3 minutes, then fell behind the first time with less than two to play. But that hook and ladder play was just awesome, and that overtime period was just outstanding.

Boise St. winning is great for college football and the screams for a playoff system are louder than ever now!

vader29 · Post by **vader29** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:30 pm

pk500 wrote:If anyone sees an ESPN Classic listing of this game, please post.

Hook-and-ladder and Statue of Liberty plays in the same game? This is must-see TV.

Thanks,
PK

They are condensing the game into an hour segment tomorrow night on Fox Sports Pittsburgh at 9pm so be sure to check your local Fox Sports station.

Inuyasha · Post by **Inuyasha** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:26 am

Another overrated Notre Dame team.

I dont know what was worse, the play of the ND team or Fox showing the ND Band doing those stupid dances.

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:11 am

LSMe and More Kilometers 1ups ND.... I like Weis and think he is a great coach, but it takes more than coaching at the college level to win. You have to have good recruits. I don't know if college football is as good a measure as being a good coach as it is in being a good recruiter for the big time programs.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:18 am

Inuyasha wrote:Another overrated Notre Dame team.

I dont know what was worse, the play of the ND team or Fox showing the ND Band doing those stupid dances.

Maybe they should add a stipulation to letting ND into BCS bowl games.

Dont let them in unless Army,Navy or Air Force get in.

EZSnappin · Post by **EZSnappin** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:08 am

Oh what a night...

Nine straight loses! The haterade was sweet nectar last night - now I just have to find the right words to mock all the ND alums in my family. It gets harder to be original as they fail over and over and over.

Maybe my silly cousin will have made a stupid bet and have to run with the bulls at Pamplona again. I can only hope.

kevinpars · Post by **kevinpars** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:49 am

To shield themselves from the fallout of another bowl loss, ND officials plan to protect themselves by holding up huge wads of cash that they have accumulated through their sweet BCS deal and NBC TV contracts.

I didn't stay up to watch Sportscenter. Did Mark May and Lou Holtz come to blows??

F308GTB · Post by **F308GTB** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:50 am

EZSnappin wrote:Oh what a night...

Nine straight loses!

Didn't realize it was an NCAA record until I heard it on NPR this morning. I detest ND and Wed. night was fantastic.

I was thoroughly impressed with Russell for LSU. If he decides to come out early, I wonder what round he'd be projected to go in. The Texans fans are always talking of replacing Carr, and if Russell can perform in the pros like he has in college he'll make the locals forget about Vince Young soon enough. Unlike Young, this kid can throw downfield (way downfield) accurately. Tremendous size.

EZSnappin · Post by **EZSnappin** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 9:07 am

F308GTB wrote: I was thoroughly impressed with Russell for LSU. If he decides to come out early, I wonder what round he'd be projected to go in. The Texans fans are always talking of replacing Carr, and if Russell can perform in the pros like he has in college he'll make the locals forget about Vince Young soon enough. Unlike Young, this kid can throw downfield (way downfield) accurately. Tremendous size.

There was a great deal of talk about this being "the Number 1 Pick Bowl" - that whomever performed the best between Quinn & Russell would be the likely Raider. Whomever Oakland passes on will likely end up in Detroit (assuming Millen doesn't pick USC's Jarrett just to be consistent).

I think the Texans should take a long look at Troy Smith. He isn't projected to go that high, but he just wins. Always seems to be an overlooked aspect in the draft - length, arm strength, Wunderlic, and the like seem to take precedent. Players are more than cattle, and in each and every sport they go by the quantitative stuff instead of how they play the game.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:08 am

Another bowl, another loss for Notre Dame. How refreshing!

At least the nation saw how the "mystique" of Notre Dame doesn't do jack sh*t when it comes to winning football games against quality Division I opponents. Let's face it: Notre Dame is closer to a mid-major than a powerhouse. For comparison, I think ND would have finished third or fourth in the Big East this year, behind Louisville, Rutgers and West Virginia.

And Brady Quinn as the No. 1 pick? Give me a f*cking break. Another overrated ND golden arm. OK, he's better than Ron Powlus, but look at Quinn's two worst games this season -- against Michigan and LSU. Both of those defenses have the speed and athletes that Quinn would see every Sunday in the NFL.

I have my doubts whether Quinn is even a first-rounder. Russell, Troy Smith and Brian Brohm are three QB's I would put ahead of him instantly.

It's a wonderful morning: The last time Notre Dame won a bowl game, Bill Clinton was entering his second year as President!

Take care,
PK

F308GTB · Post by **F308GTB** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:56 am

I agreen on Quinn. Overrated like the rest of the team. I haven't seen anything in him that would make me want to have him on my NFL team were I a GM. Heck, I thought Colt McCoy for the Longhorns was much better in his freshman year than Quinn has been. Locally, I've been impressed with Kevin Kolb as well. Even though he's only a junior, I'm wondering what the pros thing of Chad Henne. Doesn't have the mobility I'd want, but he does seem to read defenses well.

On Kolb, even though UH lost their bowl game, he had a tremendous year. Finished the year with 3809 yards, 30 TDs, 4 INTs and a QB rating of 162.7. And no, this wasn't the old UH run-and-shoot offense to pad the stats. Good article on him at http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug ... &type=lgns

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:24 am

James:

I wonder about Henne, too. I've seen nearly every game he's played in the last three years since he and Hart arrived in Ann Arbor simultaneously, and I think his draft status depends on his senior season and the "flavor of the month" in NFL circles.

Henne is a classic dropback, fairly immobile passer. Fifteen or 20 years ago, he would have been NFL draft gold. He reminds me of Jim Kelly, Troy Aikman, Drew Bledsoe or Bernie Kosar in a lot of ways, although his mechanics are a lot better than Kosar's.

But it seems that mobile QB's are becoming the standard in the NFL, a trend that only will continue to emerge after the stunning play of Vince Young this year. Henne doesn't fit that mold. But the kid is big, has a hell of an arm, wins games (except bowls and Buckeyes) and reads defenses well, as you said. He also seems to have quite a bit of leadership and composure, at least from what I see from afar.

Many of the same qualities Tom Brady showed at Michigan, perhaps? All I know is that I'd love for the Bills to draft Henne in April 2008, as I'm still not sold on J.P. Losman. That opinion may change, though, if J.P. breaks out next season!

Take care,
PK

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:26 am

Speaking of Colt, what about Colt Brennan at Hawaii? Is he a true passer or the product of a system, like David Klingler, Andre Ware or Dan McGwire?

The more I see Brady Quinn, the more I see Rick Mirer. A tough kid who hates to lose, a trait that can overcome the lack of true athletic greatness at the college level. But heart only goes so far in the NFL.

Take care,
PK

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:50 am

I heard Quinn was one of the top 5 senior prospects. May have been number one.

But Russell would be considered the better prospect if he came out.

Rap against Smith is his height. Yes I know he just wins and wins but so did Jason White, including a Heisman. But Smith should have a better arm than White, which was his downfall.

Problem with ND is they just don't have the talent to compete with the major programs. Weiss' schemes can only take him so far at the collegiate level.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:35 am

I can't recall a BCS title game with less buzz than this one. Hell, kickoff is less than 12 hours away, and I had to bump this thread from the second page.

The NCAA and TV networks have done a superb job at sucking any remaining life out of the college football postseason. Nearly a bowl per night from Christmas to Jan. 8 has ruined what used to be an orgy of meaningful New Year's Day football that most of us knew and loved in days past. Don't you remember dancing with the remote between the Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, Cotton and Rose, usually each with a team with either a good or an outside national title shot, all on one day?

Once the NFL playoffs start, the NCAA has lost nearly any chance it has to capture the public imagination for more than five or six hours on game day. NO ONE outside of Florida and Ohio was talking about tonight's BCS title game last weekend due to two days of NFL playoff football.

The BCS is bad enough, but this endless, meaningless steady IV drip of a college football postseason is beyond stupid. I've grown to enjoy college football nearly as much as the NFL the last few years, yet the postseason is SUCH a drag.

Take care,
PK

Leebo33 · Post by **Leebo33** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 10:47 am

I was thinking the exact same thing today. The BCS title game was the *last* news item on ESPN Radio's SportCenter this morning on the drive in.

What time is the actual kickoff?

Pete · Post by **Pete** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:24 am

Agreed. I love college football, but sitting, watching the NFL yesterday I said, "Oh yea, that game is on tomorrow night". It just took to long to get here.

I'll watch until I fall asleep, probably sometime in the 3rd quarter.