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Lancer wrote:OMFG!!! SPURS LOL - amazing, back from the dead to get OT- 3 at the buzzer, will this be a turning point?
Turning point for what? Beating a team that has never won a playoff game before this year? For making it to the second round where they will get rolled? Sure, why not.
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I did not expect ATL to take Game 1 at CHI. Good win for the Hawks.
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Rodster wrote:I did not expect ATL to take Game 1 at CHI. Good win for the Hawks.
Surprising, but Chicago is relying way too much on Rose. Everyone else is standing around and expecting him to carry them.

That worked against Indiana, even though that series was more of a struggle than it looked. It still might work against Atlanta. But it sure as hell won't work against Miami or Boston.
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IIRC Miami had a tough time and lost several times to CHI. Wrt Rose I picked up on the same thing too. They were getting beat badly early on and they got a spark when he came off the bench.
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Rodster wrote:I did not expect ATL to take Game 1 at CHI. Good win for the Hawks.
That makes two of us :)

Joe Johnson finally earned some of that huge salary and stepped up big time.
He and Jamal Crawford can carry the team when they are on. Hawks are
following the same recipe that worked against Orlando...steal the first game
on the road.
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Rodster wrote:I did not expect ATL to take Game 1 at CHI. Good win for the Hawks.
It was a good win. OTOH, the Bulls are unlikely to start that flat again. I also expect that both Johnson and Crawford had their best shooting nights of the series at the same time. Bulls D was actually better than it had been in some parts of the Pacers series, but those two guys were just smoking.

Bull problem remains no consistent second option after Rose. They're a great defensive team with nice depth who are incredibly unselfish, but they lack another player who can command double-teams. Tough to win against good teams that way.
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Nice to see Rose win the MVP, especially the way he thanked his mom. I feel lucky to root for a guy like him. Now I just hope he can make it to the finals.
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I don't know how you can be a PF and get blocked three times in one quarter the way Carlos Boozer did last night.

Great D by the Bulls, their best effort of the playoffs, but they look lost offensively. It's funny how they showed a lot of energy and movement on defense and then stood around and looked flat on offense. They have to get Boozer in gear because he and Deng are the only other consistent scoring options after Rose.
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If he's 6-8, that's being generous.

At Utah, Gasol owned him in the playoffs. Only time he had any success was against Yao once or twice, shooting rainbow jumpers at the elbow. Or he'd get away with pushing in the lower back on offensive rebounds against lesser teams.

He can't be a primary or secondary scorer in the playoffs.
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Lakers on the ropes. Is this the end of the line?
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Brando70 wrote:Nice to see Rose win the MVP, especially the way he thanked his mom.
When they showed his mom on TV at the game last night all I could think was that she looked like a real nice lady. She sure didn't look like the type of mom who would... how shall I say?... cause any "distractions" to her sons' team... like a certain other MVP's mom. :D
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Brando70 wrote:I don't know how you can be a PF and get blocked three times in one quarter the way Carlos Boozer did last night.

Great D by the Bulls, their best effort of the playoffs, but they look lost offensively. It's funny how they showed a lot of energy and movement on defense and then stood around and looked flat on offense. They have to get Boozer in gear because he and Deng are the only other consistent scoring options after Rose.
I think Chicago was very lucky to win Game 2. The Hawks shooting was atrocious, excepet for 2 guys (Johnson and Teague).
That game was winnable for ATL if just one or 2 other guys stepped up on offense. Chicago has looked very vulnerable in the
first 2 home games. I don't think the Hawks have any fear of them right now.

One thing that had me shaking my head was, why did Larry Drew have Jamal Crawford guard D. Rose?
Teague is so much better on D than Craw and Rose was just getting any shot he wanted when Crawford
was covering him.
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Brando70 wrote:I don't know how you can be a PF and get blocked three times in one quarter the way Carlos Boozer did last night.

Great D by the Bulls, their best effort of the playoffs, but they look lost offensively. It's funny how they showed a lot of energy and movement on defense and then stood around and looked flat on offense. They have to get Boozer in gear because he and Deng are the only other consistent scoring options after Rose.
I think Chicago was very lucky to win Game 2. The Hawks shooting was atrocious, excepet for 2 guys (Johnson and Teague).
That game was winnable for ATL if just one or 2 other guys stepped up on offense. Chicago has looked very vulnerable in the
first 2 home games. I don't think the Hawks have any fear of them right now.

One thing that had me shaking my head was, why did Larry Drew have Jamal Crawford guard D. Rose?
Teague is so much better on D than Craw and Rose was just getting any shot he wanted when Crawford
was covering him.
Just like Atlanta was very lucky to win Game 1. The Hawks shooting was amazing yet the Bulls still had a chance to win with 5 minutes left. The Hawks are tough but I just don't see them being as good as the Bulls.
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pk500 wrote:Lakers on the ropes. Is this the end of the line?
If they get some 30 FT attempt quarters, which has happened, they can come right back.

Everyone is praising the Dallas centers for being tough. But the Hornets centers were getting in foul trouble without being nearly as aggressive. Chandler can get in foul trouble and that could solve the Lakers offense problems -- won't matter if they shoot 0-15 from 3s.
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wco81 wrote:If he's 6-8, that's being generous.

At Utah, Gasol owned him in the playoffs. Only time he had any success was against Yao once or twice, shooting rainbow jumpers at the elbow. Or he'd get away with pushing in the lower back on offensive rebounds against lesser teams.

He can't be a primary or secondary scorer in the playoffs.
False. He averaged 20 ppg and 12.5 rpg in the playoffs during his Utah career (44 games). He can get it done, he's just not. He looks tentative and isn't using his size to compensate for his smallish height and lack of leaping ability. But he can definitely be a productive second scorer because he was all season for the Bulls.
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ScoopBrady wrote:Just like Atlanta was very lucky to win Game 1. The Hawks shooting was amazing yet the Bulls still had a chance to win with 5 minutes left. The Hawks are tough but I just don't see them being as good as the Bulls.
Agreed. Jamal Crawford isn't going to pull 3s out of his ass the way he did in game 1. The Bulls defense did what they do well, frustrate a team and get them to take bad shots. With the way Chicago's offense is playing, Atlanta could definitely beat them. I just think the Bulls could pull the series out on good defense. However, that won't be enough if they advance.
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Brando70 wrote:False. He averaged 20 ppg and 12.5 rpg in the playoffs during his Utah career (44 games). He can get it done, he's just not. He looks tentative and isn't using his size to compensate for his smallish height and lack of leaping ability. But he can definitely be a productive second scorer because he was all season for the Bulls.
You're partially right. Look at his 4th quarter late game scoring for Utah in those playoffs. Yikes. He appears to be the polar opposite of clutch, even tho he put up nice averages which is why Utah never made it out of the west.
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I said before the playoffs that I thought it was rash to assume the Bulls would ease their way through to the Conference Finals. That said, I think both Boozer's and Rose's injuries are significantly affecting their games. Having seen this Atlanta team a bit now, I'm quite sure that the Bulls will win the series, but without those two guys playing at their peak it's going to be a slog. Deng is going to have to really step it up.

That last sentence is humbling. :(
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Brando70 wrote:False. He averaged 20 ppg and 12.5 rpg in the playoffs during his Utah career (44 games). He can get it done, he's just not. He looks tentative and isn't using his size to compensate for his smallish height and lack of leaping ability. But he can definitely be a productive second scorer because he was all season for the Bulls.
You're partially right. Look at his 4th quarter late game scoring for Utah in those playoffs. Yikes. He appears to be the polar opposite of clutch, even tho he put up nice averages which is why Utah never made it out of the west.
True, but he wasn't invisible the way he has been for most of this year's games. He just needs to be somewhat productive, or they won't last much longer. Deng has played pretty well but he's not enough of a scorer to make up the difference from Boozer, and no one else on the Bulls is much of an offensive threat.
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Does Phil Jackson not know how to defend a pick and roll? The whole series, it looks like the Lakers had never heard of a pick and roll until this series and are dumbfounded by it. Amazing but not over.
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Lancer wrote:Does Phil Jackson not know how to defend a pick and roll? The whole series, it looks like the Lakers had never heard of a pick and roll until this series and are dumbfounded by it. Amazing but not over.
Not so amazing and over.

Lakers showing their true colors today.What a bunch of assholes.
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Gutless. These are 2 time defending champs? Kobe doesn't care, arrest is a nut, odom should stay on reality tv. What a waste for Phil to come back.
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Don't worry: The last five minutes are coming. That's Kobe's time to take over, as he told the world yesterday. ;)
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Dallas just shot too well in the clutch the whole series and today, they had one of these red hot shooting games that they're capable of having.

Meanwhile, Lakers shot poorly from the outside all series. They didn't get those games with lopsided FT attempts in their favor either, even though they pounded the inside while Dallas mostly scored from outside the paint.

Not sure why Fisher got so much PT over Brown, who's more lively and has a better chance of defending Terry or Berea.
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For some reason I see the Finals between CHI and DAL. When the Heat played DAL they took it to the Heat, Dirk was a monster. The Heat also had lots of problems with CHI.
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