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[dougb]

I wonder if one of the problems with the IPAD is going to be damaged screens if you drop them. Just did that with my Itouch unfortunately and now have wonderful spider pattern to look through on the screen. There may be some places to get it repaired but it's looking like at least $100.

Best wishes,

Doug

[greggsand]

I wonder if one of the problems with the IPAD is going to be damaged screens if you drop them. Just did that with my Itouch unfortunately and now have wonderful spider pattern to look through on the screen. There may be some places to get it repaired but it's looking like at least $100.

Best wishes,

Doug

I'd argue dropping any high-end electronics is a problem (iPads, Laptops, Cell Phones)...

[dougb]

I wonder if one of the problems with the IPAD is going to be damaged screens if you drop them. Just did that with my Itouch unfortunately and now have wonderful spider pattern to look through on the screen. There may be some places to get it repaired but it's looking like at least $100.

Best wishes,

Doug

I'd argue dropping any high-end electronics is a problem (iPads, Laptops, Cell Phones)...

Yep no question about that - it actually made me reconsider buying an e-book reader though because the likelihood is eventually the damn thing is going to slip through the fingers. Given that laptops are usually used while seated I'd imagine they're less likely to be dropped than something often used with standing or moving around.

Best wishes,

Doug

[RobVarak]

Tycho from PA:

Everything the iPhone excels at, this excels at also, and that includes the acquisition of human grease and filth. Every extended interaction with the device leaves it coated with smears of unknown provenance, like a stripper pole.

From a narrative perspective, they've gone the wrong way: they've made a large, less general purpose device after a smaller, perfect one. You come out with the big one first, and then when you make the one that fits in your pocket, there is a gasp from everyone in the room. You may sense this also, upon using it: the sense that time has begun to flow backward.

[wco81]

A phone is the first slam-dunk device, not a tablet, which is unproven.

Original iPhone demo was one of the most effective introductions ever. Apple got at least half a billion worth of free PR for about 6 months after that event.

Once iPhone was established as a brand, then you leverage it to venture into something that's a harder-sell. Brand equity helps -- people who've come to value the product, people who are used to some core apps. may be more inclined to try out a product with some of the same apps. optimized for it.

Other issue is, a lot of the components, especially their current costs, may make introducing the iPad now than 3 years ago.

[Diablo25]

I wonder if one of the problems with the IPAD is going to be damaged screens if you drop them. Just did that with my Itouch unfortunately and now have wonderful spider pattern to look through on the screen. There may be some places to get it repaired but it's looking like at least $100.

Best wishes,

Doug

You can replace it yourself easily. Just Google it. How to videos included.

http://www.directfix.com/category/TOUCH.html

[JRod]

Tycho from PA:

Everything the iPhone excels at, this excels at also, and that includes the acquisition of human grease and filth. Every extended interaction with the device leaves it coated with smears of unknown provenance, like a stripper pole.

From a narrative perspective, they've gone the wrong way: they've made a large, less general purpose device after a smaller, perfect one. You come out with the big one first, and then when you make the one that fits in your pocket, there is a gasp from everyone in the room. You may sense this also, upon using it: the sense that time has begun to flow backward.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:49 pm    Post subject:
A phone is the first slam-dunk device, not a tablet, which is unproven.

Original iPhone demo was one of the most effective introductions ever. Apple got at least half a billion worth of free PR for about 6 months after that event.

Once iPhone was established as a brand, then you leverage it to venture into something that's a harder-sell. Brand equity helps -- people who've come to value the product, people who are used to some core apps. may be more inclined to try out a product with some of the same apps. optimized for it.

Other issue is, a lot of the components, especially their current costs, may make introducing the iPad now than 3 years ago.

Total B.S!! This is nothing more than hindsight. Nothing more! I had the first iPhone and some reviewers were panning it with the same criticisms. It wasn't 3G. Edge was slow and bad. Websites not unitized for it. The keyboard was hard to use. AT&T was crap. No flash.

The iPhone was a culmination of of putting a lot of things into a phone. Hell I remember reviewers panning it as too much of a general device that didn't play music like an iPod, surf the web like on a pc, play games or do email better.

The iPhone didn't hit it out of the park until the 3G version and the second OS.

I don't know where the iPad will end up. But to come in here and say the iPhone was a perfect device is nonsense. Now the iPad is an evolution of the iPhone so maybe it turns into the newton or apple tv. But to critize for not blowing people away is ridiculous. What bothers me is like when reviewers pan sports game because they want it to be something else. Judge the iPad on it's own merits. I don't care if people buy it or not. And I don't care if people like apple or the iPad.

What it does it does well. It won't be until the iPad 2 and iPad os 2.0 for it come into it's own. That's how long it took the iPhone.

[wco81]

I wasn't saying it was perfect or that it didn't have criticisms.

That demo in January 2007 though made people look at touch screen UIs and smart phones differently.

iPhone was in the news for the next 6 months until they finally shipped.

There had been a lot of anticipation of the iPhone (as there was of the tablet too this year) but that demo, with the swiping and the pinching and the way Safari loaded web sites like no previous mobile browser did was a revelation to many.

Sure people complained about copy and paste, MMS, lack of 3G, etc. but the multitouch UI was something a lot of people didn't expect.

[JRod]

I wasn't saying it was perfect or that it didn't have criticisms.

That demo in January 2007 though made people look at touch screen UIs and smart phones differently.

iPhone was in the news for the next 6 months until they finally shipped.

There had been a lot of anticipation of the iPhone (as there was of the tablet too this year) but that demo, with the swiping and the pinching and the way Safari loaded web sites like no previous mobile browser did was a revelation to many.

Sure people complained about copy and paste, MMS, lack of 3G, etc. but the multitouch UI was something a lot of people didn't expect.

I get that. But to judge the iPad on the iPhones hype is unrealistic. I think there's potential for people to look at slates differently. iPad may or may not change market but like the iPhone the potential for it to change the market exists.

[dougb]

I wonder if one of the problems with the IPAD is going to be damaged screens if you drop them. Just did that with my Itouch unfortunately and now have wonderful spider pattern to look through on the screen. There may be some places to get it repaired but it's looking like at least $100.

Best wishes,

Doug

You can replace it yourself easily. Just Google it. How to videos included.

http://www.directfix.com/category/TOUCH.html

Thanks,

I'll have a look at that.

Best wishes,

Doug

[sportdan30]

Wi-fi troubles with the Ipad:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/ptech/04/0 ... tml?hpt=T2

[Diablo25]

I wonder if one of the problems with the IPAD is going to be damaged screens if you drop them. Just did that with my Itouch unfortunately and now have wonderful spider pattern to look through on the screen. There may be some places to get it repaired but it's looking like at least $100.

Best wishes,

Doug

You can replace it yourself easily. Just Google it. How to videos included.

http://www.directfix.com/category/TOUCH.html

Thanks,

I'll have a look at that.

Best wishes,

Doug

No problem. I "spidered" my iPhone screen last weekend and ordered a new screen from Amazon for like $17. There are easy "How To" vids on Youtube that show you how to do it. Once you "break the seal" to fix it your warranty is done though. My 3G iPhone is almost 2 years old and not under warranty so I did the fix. I didn't want to waste my upgrade discount on a 3GS IF there is a new iPhone coming this summer...so this was a great solution for me.

[dougb]

You can replace it yourself easily. Just Google it. How to videos included.

http://www.directfix.com/category/TOUCH.html

Thanks,

I'll have a look at that.

Best wishes,

Doug

No problem. I "spidered" my iPhone screen last weekend and ordered a new screen from Amazon for like $17. There are easy "How To" vids on Youtube that show you how to do it. Once you "break the seal" to fix it your warranty is done though. My 3G iPhone is almost 2 years old and not under warranty so I did the fix. I didn't want to waste my upgrade discount on a 3GS IF there is a new iPhone coming this summer...so this was a great solution for me.

Even with the warranty (mine goes another 2 years I think) it probably still makes sense cost wise to go with the home repair if I can pull it off.

Best wishes,

Doug

[dougb]

Wi-fi troubles with the Ipad:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/ptech/04/0 ... tml?hpt=T2

That's interesting because my Itouch always seems to have difficulty dropping wifi signals that my wife's laptop has no problem picking up. the signal strength displayed by the itouch appears to fluctuate significantly - I've encountered the issue not just at home but also on the road in hotels.

Best wishes,

Doug

[wco81]

With aluminum casing, there could be reception problems for the internal antenna.

Other thing I've heard is that it will shut down if you use it where it can't cool down. There is no fan probably.

[pk500]

Wi-fi troubles with the Ipad:

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/ptech/04/0 ... tml?hpt=T2

That's interesting because my Itouch always seems to have difficulty dropping wifi signals that my wife's laptop has no problem picking up. the signal strength displayed by the itouch appears to fluctuate significantly - I've encountered the issue not just at home but also on the road in hotels.

Best wishes,

Doug

Same with my daughter's Touch. Drops signals often that our upstairs laptop maintains with ease.

The Touch still is a mighty nifty device.

[JRod]

With aluminum casing, there could be reception problems for the internal antenna.

There's truth to this but I find my aluminum mac doesn't get wi-fi signals my 3gs iphone gets.

I haven't taken my iPad out in the wild. So maybe I'll do that today and report back.

[10spro]

Don't know what the hell is with hotel WI-FI signals, but the reception definitely drops down dramatically with my iphone.

[Danimal]

I'll admit I was actually wavering on maybe getting one but the Wi-fi story and more importantly the reports that if you take this outside in temps over 70 degrees it will overheat are concerning.

[JRod]

Some apps that really show off the iPad and they don't seem like much but their simplicity and effectiveness show off the potential of future apps.

Kayak flights -
Now this isn't a killer app where it's going to make you buy an iPad but it's one that shows just how unintuitive web pages are. Simply put in flight data and tick off a few options. There's a few more display options on the initial page after you have your flight selected, it lists all the flights.

Now I know it's nothing that a website doesn't do but maybe it's just the screen real estate that shows all the information that you need.

World Atlas
Beautiful maps in HD. I can see Google Maps are someone really do some special things with map applications.

The Guardian Eyewitness -
This is just a picture application that shows The Guardians print pictures. It's like national geographic and Life magazines. It's bare-bones but again it shows off what a national geographic could do if they have the guts to step away from PDF style ebooks and design apps geared towards Slates.

Someone I will try to get some pictures uploaded.

[dbdynsty25]

I do like how when you go to espn.com you can choose which version you want to see, the mobile or the full web page. It really is an awesome device...assuming I didn't have a laptop and a smartphone.

[JRod]

I wish apple would free up the reigns on document sharing. It's really a f*** up with the iPad/iPhone. Outside of sharing songs which there are piracy issues, the ability to shoot documents wirelessly to other devices or to even have a folder structure within the iPad is needed in some form. Even if it's not a laptop, file management for a device where you will be opening and using files is necessary and Apple has no system in place.

[F308GTB]

BTW, flew from Houston to Tokyo Monday through San Francisco. In the business lounge at SFO I saw a dozen or so of Apple lemmings with iPads in tow. Not too surprising for the Bay Area. Looks like these things are getting some international use pretty quick. Wide demographics - younger white males to elderly Asian females.

[greggsand]

Finally got to play around with one today. Pretty much the same reaction as most: heavier than I thought, surprisingly fast browsing & nav, smudgey screen, & I got a little tired of looking at my reflection in the thing. The lack of a cam of any sort is a little odd. Even though it's not essentially, it just "seems" like there should be one.

One surprise was that you can't make the app icons smaller to accommodate more per page. The screen seem big enough to put 30 apps on a page if you shrink them a bit. I bet this becomes an option in a future OS.

[JRod]

Finally got to play around with one today. Pretty much the same reaction as most: heavier than I thought, surprisingly fast browsing & nav, smudgey screen, & I got a little tired of looking at my reflection in the thing. The lack of a cam of any sort is a little odd. Even though it's not essentially, it just "seems" like there should be one.

One surprise was that you can't make the app icons smaller to accommodate more per page. The screen seem big enough to put 30 apps on a page if you shrink them a bit. I bet this becomes an option in a future OS.

At first I thought the same thing, but after going back to the iPhone it feels cramped. It could fit maybe five per line with the current five lines. Now the "dock" can fit 6 apps so it's possible. Right now the max on a screen is 20 apps at 4 per 5 lines.