Glad to see him back on form. Love him or hate him he is a character for sure and brings fun to the sport and Moto GP needs him. Plus he's one of the very best ever. I guess Jorge lit a fire under his ass as he's now producing results instead of yapping about what's wrong with his bike.
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Yeah I cracked up when I saw that helmet too.
Glad to see him back on form. Love him or hate him he is a character for sure and brings fun to the sport and Moto GP needs him. Plus he's one of the very best ever. I guess Jorge lit a fire under his ass as he's now producing results instead of yapping about what's wrong with his bike.
Glad to see him back on form. Love him or hate him he is a character for sure and brings fun to the sport and Moto GP needs him. Plus he's one of the very best ever. I guess Jorge lit a fire under his ass as he's now producing results instead of yapping about what's wrong with his bike.
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I don't know how anyone can hate Valentino -- he's so carefree, funny and fast. A legend who never takes himself too seriously.
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Back brace. Protects the rider's upper spine during a fall.Rodster wrote:Hey guys what's with the hump on the back of a Moto GP rider? Is it for aerodynamics or to protect their heads during a fall?
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I'm not too sure how to read it, but I'm inclined to think it's not quite as overwhelming as it might seem. Put it this way, he's not exactly riding a wave of goodwill among the larger member clubs - Germany's ADAC and the USA's AAA are threatening to withdraw from the FIA, Britain's MSA are 'respecting the decision' which is some way short of an overwhelming endorsement (Damon Hill, in his role as president of the BRDC, has already been quite vocal in his displeasure), and the Japanese are known to be quite unhappy too. The perception - and it's easy to believe this given the number of larger clubs against him - is that Max is surviving on the back of support from the smaller FIA member clubs, those with whom he has close links and with whom the FIA have financial ties, and since it's one vote per club regardless of size, that'd be enough.Rodster wrote:I'm surprised Mosley was overwhelmingly asked to stay after all the ruckus about the teams and Bernie asking him to step down. He has done some good things for the sport and one of them has been safety, no question.
What he's not, clearly, is popular with the larger influential clubs, and so his victory may well prove to be bad news for motorsport.
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One bad-ass picture of Stoner from qualifying today:

Man, look at his left knee: It's skimming the curb. Never ceases to amaze me the lean angles of these riders and bikes. Unreal talent and balls.
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Man, look at his left knee: It's skimming the curb. Never ceases to amaze me the lean angles of these riders and bikes. Unreal talent and balls.
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Why is it that a Force India being attended to relatively safely off line requires a safety car, while a Force India being towed off the track by a small tractor in an area notorious for driver errors doesn't?
Bugging me, that. Tell you what, though - if Montreal's disintegrating racetrack can serve up such a spectacle every year, is it not time to start throwing marbles and glass beads onto the track at the Hungaroring? Top marks to everyone who got around, and to one who didn't, because Alonso's Renault didn't look like a car that had any business being as far up as it was.
The news report on BBC earlier said, "Kubica led home Heidfeld for a historic BMW 1-2, and yes, that really is David Coulthard on the podium next to them." If that sums up the surprise that inevitably accompanies a good DC result these days, it seems to not really do any justice to how good a drive his was.
Watching the highlights as I type, I'm struck by the efforts of ITV's interviewers to blame someone else for Hamilton's disregard of the pit exit procedure. "Should the team not have been telling you there was a red light?" they asked, and while they may have a point it doesn't excuse neglecting to ask whether Lewis should have seen the light himself or whether the sudden increase in closing speed might not have given him a clue. Saying that, a ten place grid penalty for France seems fairly harsh on Lewis and ludicrously harsh on Rosberg.
If I live to be 100, I'll never understand how exactly Rubens Barrichello managed to lead a race and subsequently score points in that Honda. It looked completely unwilling to stop, turn or go and had the top speed of a continental plate.
Bugging me, that. Tell you what, though - if Montreal's disintegrating racetrack can serve up such a spectacle every year, is it not time to start throwing marbles and glass beads onto the track at the Hungaroring? Top marks to everyone who got around, and to one who didn't, because Alonso's Renault didn't look like a car that had any business being as far up as it was.
The news report on BBC earlier said, "Kubica led home Heidfeld for a historic BMW 1-2, and yes, that really is David Coulthard on the podium next to them." If that sums up the surprise that inevitably accompanies a good DC result these days, it seems to not really do any justice to how good a drive his was.
Watching the highlights as I type, I'm struck by the efforts of ITV's interviewers to blame someone else for Hamilton's disregard of the pit exit procedure. "Should the team not have been telling you there was a red light?" they asked, and while they may have a point it doesn't excuse neglecting to ask whether Lewis should have seen the light himself or whether the sudden increase in closing speed might not have given him a clue. Saying that, a ten place grid penalty for France seems fairly harsh on Lewis and ludicrously harsh on Rosberg.
If I live to be 100, I'll never understand how exactly Rubens Barrichello managed to lead a race and subsequently score points in that Honda. It looked completely unwilling to stop, turn or go and had the top speed of a continental plate.
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Lewis is becoming more of a prat as the pressure increases. His insouciant apology to Raikkonen was a joke:GB_Simo wrote:Watching the highlights as I type, I'm struck by the efforts of ITV's interviewers to blame someone else for Hamilton's disregard of the pit exit procedure. "Should the team not have been telling you there was a red light?" they asked, and while they may have a point it doesn't excuse neglecting to ask whether Lewis should have seen the light himself or whether the sudden increase in closing speed might not have given him a clue. Saying that, a ten place grid penalty for France seems fairly harsh on Lewis and ludicrously harsh on Rosberg.
"It wasn't a great stop. I saw the two guys in front battling in the pitlane and all of a sudden they stopped. I saw the red light but by the time I stopped it was too late," said Hamilton.
"It is a lot different if you crash into the wall and are angry, it is not like that. I apologise to Kimi if I cost him the race, but these sort of things happen.
"I would rather neither of us were out, we were so quick, I was in front. Next time."
"But these sort of things happen?" Not if you're the anointed one, the rookie who damn near won the World Championship last season.
"We were so quick, I was in front. Next time." That reads like: "Just remember, Kimi, I was ahead of you before I ruined your race. I f*cked you badly, but I don't feel that bad about it because I was in front, and neither of us scored points today."
Hamilton needs to show Raikkonen a bit more respect. It's simply a matter of scoreboard -- Kimi has a world title and more victories.
Hopefully the "next time" is referring to Lewis' ability to open his eyes and look at the pit exit light. Somehow, I doubt it.
If anything, Hamilton's shoddy driving this season is making Fred Alonso look good. Let's face it: Alonso did masterful development work last year for McLaren, and Hamilton benefited from it with an almost faultless season. Now that Lewis is charged with the lead in development and is the team leader, we're seeing some chinks in the armor.
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One thing I have noticed is that Fernando Alonso seems to be rising in people's estimation almost retrospectively, as if there's something about 2008 that's throwing his 2007 into focus. Given that McLaren are so far looking stronger than last year pretty much everywhere they race, at least on pace if not raw results, and that the 2008 Renault is yet to qualify highly while running anything like a sensible front-running fuel load, I'm not totally certain what that's all about. As a driver he's generally continuing to look good, his pathetic race in Monaco not withstanding, but in development terms I really don't share the love for him just yet.
Bearing in mind that Hamilton's interview was conducted for the benefit of a worldwide audience and not Kimi Raikkonen, is it not enough to publicly state you've apologised and leave it there? Lewis felt he could have won the race, and said so - if that's his belief, and he was far enough in front pre-safety car to make that belief reasonable enough, then I'm alright with that. Quite how that, and the rest of the interview, then becomes not showing Kimi enough respect is something I'm afraid I need explaining to me.
Bearing in mind that Hamilton's interview was conducted for the benefit of a worldwide audience and not Kimi Raikkonen, is it not enough to publicly state you've apologised and leave it there? Lewis felt he could have won the race, and said so - if that's his belief, and he was far enough in front pre-safety car to make that belief reasonable enough, then I'm alright with that. Quite how that, and the rest of the interview, then becomes not showing Kimi enough respect is something I'm afraid I need explaining to me.
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Just watched it Pk and i agree and if it wasnt the fact that Kimi does'nt seem to give a s*** this year we may have seen more sparks.
At first i was screaming as to why , after the pit lane was declared open was the pit lane exit closed doesnt that seem dumb? ok you can all pit but you cant leave.
On the replay you can see cars still coming around on the track which seems to be the only reason for red lighting the exit to let them by and have the others join the end of the line.
But my question is why did it take so long for those guys to make it around and to even hold up anyone they where all under yellow for at least a lap so they all should have been bunched up like the formation lap meaning on a 20/25 sec pit stop they should have been well clear.
Still Lewis was a Pratt , shades of Jenson Button in his williams rear ending someone on the formation lap a few years back.
Great race tho. And how does Kovalinen not score a point ? im guessing the billion dollar mobile Mclaren race base is not a pleasent place to be tonight.
At first i was screaming as to why , after the pit lane was declared open was the pit lane exit closed doesnt that seem dumb? ok you can all pit but you cant leave.
On the replay you can see cars still coming around on the track which seems to be the only reason for red lighting the exit to let them by and have the others join the end of the line.
But my question is why did it take so long for those guys to make it around and to even hold up anyone they where all under yellow for at least a lap so they all should have been bunched up like the formation lap meaning on a 20/25 sec pit stop they should have been well clear.
Still Lewis was a Pratt , shades of Jenson Button in his williams rear ending someone on the formation lap a few years back.
Great race tho. And how does Kovalinen not score a point ? im guessing the billion dollar mobile Mclaren race base is not a pleasent place to be tonight.
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Constructors Points after Montreal, 2007:GB_Simo wrote:One thing I have noticed is that Fernando Alonso seems to be rising in people's estimation almost retrospectively, as if there's something about 2008 that's throwing his 2007 into focus. Given that McLaren are so far looking stronger than last year pretty much everywhere they race, at least on pace if not raw results, and that the 2008 Renault is yet to qualify highly while running anything like a sensible front-running fuel load, I'm not totally certain what that's all about.
McLaren-Mercedes 88
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Ferrari 73
BMW Sauber 70
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Through Montreal last season, McLaren-Mercedes had two poles, three victories and three fastest race laps. Through Montreal this season, McLaren-Mercedes has two poles, two victories and two fastest race laps.
How do you see the 2008 McLaren-Mercedes outperforming last year's car? I'm really struggling to see that, mate, by any measure -- pure pace or race performance.
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Lewis ruined Raikkonen's race, yet showed little remorse for it. As Jimmy said, Hamilton is lucky that it was the phlegmatic Raikkonen he cornholed -- otherwise there could have been some real fireworks. That would have been nice to see.GB_Simo wrote:Bearing in mind that Hamilton's interview was conducted for the benefit of a worldwide audience and not Kimi Raikkonen, is it not enough to publicly state you've apologised and leave it there? Lewis felt he could have won the race, and said so - if that's his belief, and he was far enough in front pre-safety car to make that belief reasonable enough, then I'm alright with that. Quite how that, and the rest of the interview, then becomes not showing Kimi enough respect is something I'm afraid I need explaining to me.
What irritates me the most is Lewis' dismissal of the incident as "something that happens in racing." Not very often, it doesn't, and it certainly shouldn't happen to a driver of Hamilton's caliber.
The kid is making more mistakes this season than last, yet the fawning British press -- which dominates the English-speaking F1 worldwide press corps -- thinks this kid can do no wrong even when he's clearly f*cking up.
Don't get me wrong -- Hamilton isn't a sh*thead. But he's not as perfect behind the wheel as he's depicted by the boys at Autosport, ITV and the BBC. And yes, I think he's struggling a bit with the added responsibility of being a team leader this season. It's a smidge different than being the cheeky chappy, "happy and thrilled to be here" lad he was last year.
If Hamilton wins the World Championship this year, he will earn my whole-hearted respect, because I think he will need to dig more deeply to win the title this season than he would have last year. I don't think the car is as good, and I don't think his teammate is as good as Alonso. That's putting an additional burden on Hamilton.
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That's what i've been saying for a while that Fernando took McLaren over the top last year and Lewis greatly benefited from his experience in setting up the race car. You can see him as the trash bucket Renault keeps moving up the qualifying grid.pk500 wrote: If anything, Hamilton's shoddy driving this season is making Fred Alonso look good. Let's face it: Alonso did masterful development work last year for McLaren, and Hamilton benefited from it with an almost faultless season. Now that Lewis is charged with the lead in development and is the team leader, we're seeing some chinks in the armor.
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Good for BMW as i'm getting pretty tired of the Championship battle always between Ferrari and McLaren. I saw the race on Fox while I was in Miami over the weekend. What a brain fart by Lewis in the pits.
I cracked up when Kimi patted him on the back and pointed towards the pitlane lights.
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I did say that in terms of raw results, there'll be nothing there to back me up, but I don't just post these things blithely, mate. What I'll say in response is that the first McLaren home in Turkey last year was 26.1 seconds away from winning, as compared to 3.7 seconds this year on a disadvantaged strategy, and that from 7.2 seconds behind a coasting Raikkonen in Melbourne last year, the team won at a canter this year. As last year they won Monaco, Hamilton's pole margin in Canada was large last year and larger this year, and Spain (safety car), Malaysia (qualifying penalties) and Bahrain (Hamilton/Alonso accident) can't be fairly compared. Where their position relative to the opposition can be reasonably judged, I continue to maintain that they're closer. That Hamilton keeps hitting things and Kovalainen's car falls apart every hour on the hour is neither here nor there for these purposes, though inevitably the points scored are fewer as a result.pk500 wrote:How do you see the 2008 McLaren-Mercedes outperforming last year's car? I'm really struggling to see that, mate, by any measure -- pure pace or race performance.
As far as your other point, Hamilton's reaction should someone ever do something similar to him will be interesting, and a telling insight into his character. As anyone who watched ITV's coverage from 2003 to 2006 will tell you, we know Hamilton isn't as good as they make out, because Jenson Button is better...
I've said this before, but for a nation whose real petrolheads are generally among the least partizan in the world (with obvious Hunt and Mansell-based exceptions), we've managed to saddle ourselves with a terribly over-patriotic media.
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If the car's getting better, though, then Piquet's getting worse. Not that it's impossible, mind...Rodster wrote:That's what i've been saying for a while that Fernando took McLaren over the top last year and Lewis greatly benefited from his experience in setting up the race car. You can see him as the trash bucket Renault keeps moving up the qualifying grid.
I'm keen for Renault to put a fuel load in for Q3 that matches Ferrari, McLaren and BMW so we can really see where they are, because I'm still not convinced the car is massively better than it was a few races back. I am, though, convinced that Alonso is driving the wheels off that thing, and for that he has my admiration. Regardless of your thoughts on the man, or my thoughts on the development work, as a driver he's been difficult to fault lately.
How small do you suppose Lewis felt at that precise moment?Rodster wrote:I cracked up when Kimi patted him on the back and pointed towards the pitlane lights.
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I have to agree with Adam's view on this. I admit that last year I wasn't as quick to fawn over Hamilton as many other people were. I also think that he seems to have gotten quite cocky lately. But I think it's not clear that Alonso's absence has hurt McLaren.
I think last year's pairing was stronger than this year's pairing at McLaren. As well, aside from the first race, Kimi's presence wasn't being felt much at the start of the season last year.
It's true that Lewis has to bare ultimate responsibility for his accident. But JPM and Fisi have both run the red light and been disqualified at the same race in recent years. So I'm surprised that the teams aren't providing drivers with friendly reminders over the radio during safety car periods.
At the time of the crash I wasn't so forgiving though. I was looking through my lens and was cheering to see Kimi come out ahead. Then all of a sudden, BAMMO! I started shouting out loud "Lewis just hit Kimi!" Things were shaping up to make it an exciting race with Kimi and Kubica ahead of him, but we were denied the chance to see a good battle.
I can't think of any driver who's hands look smoother than Hamilton's on the wheel. He's able to excellently slide his car without losing it.
By-the-way, I suspect I'm the only person in these forums who still rates Button quite highly as a driver. He's fared quite well against his teammates since his arrival at BAR/Honda and I can't think of a cleaner, fairer racer. Even when there was traction control two years ago, I remember how little he leaned on it when accelerating out of turn two in Montreal.
For quite a while I've been a fan of Heidfeld so I have to say I'm surprised how Kubica has consistently beat him this year. It seems to me that Kubica's moved to a higher level this season.
I love what Alonso's been doing with that Renault this year. It's the kind of stuff that proves who's a great driver. However, he's also crashed out of two races in a row without anyone else being at fault. I suspect that at his prime Michael Schumacher would have been just as fast in the Renault and been able to finish the last two races.
I was one of those people who wrote off Coulthard this year as a has-been so I have to eat crow over his latest performance. I also have to say that having seen the drivers parade three times now, Coulthard is easily the most crowd friendly driver on the grid. He doesn't hide in the shade of a cap and he appears to genuinely enjoy interacting with the crowd.
Did I ever mention how ugly that Honda is? Well I'd rather the Honda drivers show us their butts than drive around in these things. If you're going to make an ugly car at least make sure it's fast.
One more thing... It was neat to see how during qualifying the drivers slide their cars through turn one. They are too protective of their cars to do that during the race. It's one of those things that makes qualifying so special.
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I have to agree with Adam's view on this. I admit that last year I wasn't as quick to fawn over Hamilton as many other people were. I also think that he seems to have gotten quite cocky lately. But I think it's not clear that Alonso's absence has hurt McLaren.
I think last year's pairing was stronger than this year's pairing at McLaren. As well, aside from the first race, Kimi's presence wasn't being felt much at the start of the season last year.
It's true that Lewis has to bare ultimate responsibility for his accident. But JPM and Fisi have both run the red light and been disqualified at the same race in recent years. So I'm surprised that the teams aren't providing drivers with friendly reminders over the radio during safety car periods.
At the time of the crash I wasn't so forgiving though. I was looking through my lens and was cheering to see Kimi come out ahead. Then all of a sudden, BAMMO! I started shouting out loud "Lewis just hit Kimi!" Things were shaping up to make it an exciting race with Kimi and Kubica ahead of him, but we were denied the chance to see a good battle.
I can't think of any driver who's hands look smoother than Hamilton's on the wheel. He's able to excellently slide his car without losing it.
By-the-way, I suspect I'm the only person in these forums who still rates Button quite highly as a driver. He's fared quite well against his teammates since his arrival at BAR/Honda and I can't think of a cleaner, fairer racer. Even when there was traction control two years ago, I remember how little he leaned on it when accelerating out of turn two in Montreal.
For quite a while I've been a fan of Heidfeld so I have to say I'm surprised how Kubica has consistently beat him this year. It seems to me that Kubica's moved to a higher level this season.
I love what Alonso's been doing with that Renault this year. It's the kind of stuff that proves who's a great driver. However, he's also crashed out of two races in a row without anyone else being at fault. I suspect that at his prime Michael Schumacher would have been just as fast in the Renault and been able to finish the last two races.
I was one of those people who wrote off Coulthard this year as a has-been so I have to eat crow over his latest performance. I also have to say that having seen the drivers parade three times now, Coulthard is easily the most crowd friendly driver on the grid. He doesn't hide in the shade of a cap and he appears to genuinely enjoy interacting with the crowd.
Did I ever mention how ugly that Honda is? Well I'd rather the Honda drivers show us their butts than drive around in these things. If you're going to make an ugly car at least make sure it's fast.
One more thing... It was neat to see how during qualifying the drivers slide their cars through turn one. They are too protective of their cars to do that during the race. It's one of those things that makes qualifying so special.
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It's not like Button has faced tough teammates since joining Honda in 2003:Smurfy wrote:By-the-way, I suspect I'm the only person in these forums who still rates Button quite highly as a driver. He's fared quite well against his teammates since his arrival at BAR/Honda and I can't think of a cleaner, fairer racer.
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Button is solid, capable Grand Prix driver who will stay in the sport for a long time because he's a personable, marketable and British set of safe hands, much like Martin Brundle, Johnny Herbert and DC.
But Button never will win a World Championship. There are too many faster, younger, hungrier guys on the grid now who would eat him alive in equal cars. Hamilton, Kubica, Raikkonen, Alonso and Rosberg come to mind immediately.
There's also something lacking in Button's skill set as a team leader, too. Great team leaders will their team to improve, to reach the top. Schumacher brought that culture to Benetton and Ferrari; Ron Dennis has instilled it throughout McLaren; and as you said, it appears Kubica is rising to a new level at BMW.
But since David Richards was inexplicably forced out of Honda after its superb 2004 season, what has the team done? Almost nothing other than the strong finish to the 2006 season.
Much of the blame must fall on the sluggish, consensus-based corporate culture in Japan, which doesn't work in F1 at all. And some of it must be placed on Nick Fry, who strikes me as one of the larger bullsh*tters in an F1 paddock filled with fecal heads.
But some of it must fall upon Button as team leader, too. He just doesn't seem to have willed this group to greater heights like Schumacher did at Benetton and Ferrari or like Alonso did in his first stint at Renault.
I like the guy, but he's no longer a member of the F1 elite. I'm not sure if he ever was part of it, to be honest. I still say the guy's greatest F1 moment was when he qualified third and finished fourth in 2000 at Spa as a rookie with Williams. I rate that drive higher than his victory in 2006 at Hungary.
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If Barrichello's well past his sell-by date, then what's Jenson lately? One of those two is picking up the scraps at the lower end of the points, qualifying well and finding the time to pass Mark Webber, of all people, in Monaco, and that one isn't Jenson Button. Sometimes the Next Big Thing of a few years back seems an awfully long way away, and it's incredible to think that the media (the British media, naturally) were attempting to tout him as a serious candidate for this year's McLaren drive, as if Ron wouldn't have signed him years ago had he thought it wise.
Whatever merit he may have as a team leader, and whatever those at Honda may say publicly, how easy can it be to feel driven and motivated by a driver who seems continually on the brink of engineering a move to another team? He's an excellent wet-weather driver, Button, and a clean, fair racer as Smurf says, but it's difficult to imagine that Honda can ever benefit from his leadership skills, somehow.
Whatever merit he may have as a team leader, and whatever those at Honda may say publicly, how easy can it be to feel driven and motivated by a driver who seems continually on the brink of engineering a move to another team? He's an excellent wet-weather driver, Button, and a clean, fair racer as Smurf says, but it's difficult to imagine that Honda can ever benefit from his leadership skills, somehow.
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OK, sincere apologies to Honda's Nick Fry. I called him an extreme bullsh*tter, but Norbert Haug of Mercedes has that market cornered.
Haug defended Hamilton's mistake at Montreal, saying it wasn't his fault because he was so special everywhere else on the circuit.
McLaren's Ron Dennis also is neck deep in turds, as he blamed Nico Rosberg for Hamilton's collision.
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Lewis Hamilton should take no blame for his pitlane accident with Kimi Raikkonen in the Canadian Grand Prix, according to McLaren and Mercedes chiefs.
Hamilton slid into the back of Raikkonen as the Ferrari driver waited at a red light at the exit of the pits. The crash put both men out of the race.
As well as Hamilton apologising to Raikkonen for what happened, autosport.com has learned that Mercedes-Benz motorsport boss Norbert Haug and McLaren F1 CEO Martin Whitmarsh also said sorry to Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali on Sunday night in Montreal.
Although the incident has turned the fight for the world title on its head, McLaren chiefs have jumped to the defence of Hamilton.
Haug said: "These things happen. I never was a friend of safety cars - it's a Mercedes but it doesn't bring us luck!
"As for the mistake, we win as a team and lose as a team. We could see Lewis had the speed, he was absolutely under control until the safety car took our advantage away.
"Anyway, two cars were stationary at the end of the pitlane, Lewis hit one, so it was our mistake at the end of the day. But I definitely will not blame him because he was so good, so special here, on this tricky circuit. He was in a class of his own in the first 20 laps.
"Everyone saw we had the speed to win it, but didn't do it. The good thing is the leader is only a few points ahead, so it's quite close together."
McLaren boss Ron Dennis said there was little point wasting time analysing what he feels was a simple accident.
"Nico ran into the back of Lewis, which showed what happened – it was a chain reaction as they were accelerating out of the pitlane," he explained. "Obviously the guys in front started to stop, Lewis was watching the back of the cars, driving off their actions, you know, we don't have brake lights.
"At the end of the day, he put himself out of the grand prix, as simple as that, and one that he was comfortably leading. We wanted to go longer, so our stop was long, and we wanted to cover off the outcome of what unfolded [with the safety car], those with long strategies took advantage, and that's where the race was turned around so dramatically by that safety car deployment."
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Unbelievable.
Take care,
PK
Haug defended Hamilton's mistake at Montreal, saying it wasn't his fault because he was so special everywhere else on the circuit.
McLaren's Ron Dennis also is neck deep in turds, as he blamed Nico Rosberg for Hamilton's collision.
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Lewis Hamilton should take no blame for his pitlane accident with Kimi Raikkonen in the Canadian Grand Prix, according to McLaren and Mercedes chiefs.
Hamilton slid into the back of Raikkonen as the Ferrari driver waited at a red light at the exit of the pits. The crash put both men out of the race.
As well as Hamilton apologising to Raikkonen for what happened, autosport.com has learned that Mercedes-Benz motorsport boss Norbert Haug and McLaren F1 CEO Martin Whitmarsh also said sorry to Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali on Sunday night in Montreal.
Although the incident has turned the fight for the world title on its head, McLaren chiefs have jumped to the defence of Hamilton.
Haug said: "These things happen. I never was a friend of safety cars - it's a Mercedes but it doesn't bring us luck!
"As for the mistake, we win as a team and lose as a team. We could see Lewis had the speed, he was absolutely under control until the safety car took our advantage away.
"Anyway, two cars were stationary at the end of the pitlane, Lewis hit one, so it was our mistake at the end of the day. But I definitely will not blame him because he was so good, so special here, on this tricky circuit. He was in a class of his own in the first 20 laps.
"Everyone saw we had the speed to win it, but didn't do it. The good thing is the leader is only a few points ahead, so it's quite close together."
McLaren boss Ron Dennis said there was little point wasting time analysing what he feels was a simple accident.
"Nico ran into the back of Lewis, which showed what happened – it was a chain reaction as they were accelerating out of the pitlane," he explained. "Obviously the guys in front started to stop, Lewis was watching the back of the cars, driving off their actions, you know, we don't have brake lights.
"At the end of the day, he put himself out of the grand prix, as simple as that, and one that he was comfortably leading. We wanted to go longer, so our stop was long, and we wanted to cover off the outcome of what unfolded [with the safety car], those with long strategies took advantage, and that's where the race was turned around so dramatically by that safety car deployment."
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Unbelievable.
Take care,
PK
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Speaking of the penalty, which was handed to Hamilton after he crashed into the back of Raikkonen's stationary Ferrari which had stopped for a red light at the end of the pit lane, the Brit said: "The rule is silly. We are in the race - how can you see a red light at the end of the pit lane? But that's the rule and I accept it. I start ten places back in the next race. It's a bit harsh really. I didn't aim to ruin anyone's race."
I think the penalty is harsh too but to say that you can't understand how anyone can see the red light at the end of pit lane makes him sound like a whiny brat. If I had never heard Hamilton speak nor read any of his quotes I think he would easily be one of my favorite drivers. Even as is I love watching him drive. I just can't find it in my heart to root for him.
I think the penalty is harsh too but to say that you can't understand how anyone can see the red light at the end of pit lane makes him sound like a whiny brat. If I had never heard Hamilton speak nor read any of his quotes I think he would easily be one of my favorite drivers. Even as is I love watching him drive. I just can't find it in my heart to root for him.
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I'm finally getting around to listening to the BBC's SUPERB F1 podcast, The Checkered Flag, from Montreal, and Hamilton's responses to reporter Holly Samos' questions about the pit lane incident are astounding:
HAMILTON: "It's not as if I crashed into the wall while I was racing and leading. Then I'd feel really bad. Today, that's not even like ... you can't even call it a racing incident, really, can you? What is it?"
SAMOS: "Just one of those mistakes?"
HAMILTON: "Again, I don't call it one of those, either. I don't know what I call it."
Delusional, perhaps?
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PK
HAMILTON: "It's not as if I crashed into the wall while I was racing and leading. Then I'd feel really bad. Today, that's not even like ... you can't even call it a racing incident, really, can you? What is it?"
SAMOS: "Just one of those mistakes?"
HAMILTON: "Again, I don't call it one of those, either. I don't know what I call it."
Delusional, perhaps?
Take care,
PK
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