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J_Cauthen wrote:
10spro wrote:I think the CE version which is what I am getting should include the following courses:
I just ordered the CE version today from Amazon.com. I opted for release day delivery. What they did was to apply my $10 credit to a future purchase to the shipping, and I wound up having to put 70 cents with the purchase to cover release day shipping costs. It was worth it to me. Oh, I'll get the celebrity pack, which features: Ice Hockey legend Jeremy Roenick, Football Hall of Famer Marshall Faulk, Basketball super-star Dwight Howard and Boxing legend Sugar Ray Leonard. None of the means anything to me, but some folks may see this as a plus.
Yeah, last year I got it for the PS3 because of the move but seeing enough interest on the 360 I am going to go with MS this time. And CE version too as I end up buying the same courses and more every year. :evil:
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Demo is here and I've played it for about 1 1/2 hours. I posted this on the official forum this morning:

"The demo almost feels broken to me. I feel virtually no proportionality between the controller and what's happening on the screen!? I started off with Rory at Kiawah, on Tournament difficulty. I couldn't get him to bring the club back more than 2/3 of his backswing and then it was very difficult to manage a downswing that would engage the golfer. I bet I had to * and fire a dozen times before I hit managed to produce a swing :?

I've tried all three golfers now and I'm having problems feeling any proportionality to any of them. I guess Tiger comes closest, but honestly, the feeling of actually controlling the swing just isn't there yet. I dropped back to Tour Pro, thinking that might help forgive some of my input errors, but no... same thing there. The swings I do produce have all had a slow tempo on the swing feedback meter report, no matter how I vary the movement with the swing stick :oops:

What in the wide world of sports is up with the putting? Even in Tournament difficulty, it seems like the putting interface is scaled to the distance to which you've set your aiming marker. Seriously, I can set my aiming marker at say 25 feet, and take a full rap with the putter and it will go 30 - 35 feet, at most. It's not requiring much at all in the way of feel for distance on putting. If I calculate the power needed to account for green speed and elevation change, I can set my aiming marker appropriately and let her have a full rip!?

I'll be curious to read the thoughts of others on this, but right now, I'm very puzzled at what I'm experiencing on the interface side of the equation. OTOH, I gotta give them props for finally stopping the camera drop to waist height during putts... the camera holds the height of the camera you chose for your putt - nice! Also, I finally got an answer to my question about cut-views in True-Aim; yes we have cut-views, but they leave a good bit to be desired. There's an awkward intermediate pan which frequently has a perspective disorienting angle and tells you next to nothing about what's happening with the shot. There's always a final shot of the ball at rest, but the camera angle is so zoomed and low that you often can't get much of a feel for where it actually finished. Both the Wii and the PC version of Tiger Woods Online do a better job with these final cut-views in their equivalent of True-Aim.

Sorry to rain on the parade here, but I'm calling it like I see it. Maybe I need to spend some more time with this and learn that some of my complaints are attributable to user error. Interested to get the buzz from others on this though."
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If anyone figures out how to get Rory McIlroy to take a full backswing in this demo, please let me know how. He stops at like 65% for me, especially with a driver. The longest drive I've hit with him was a wind aided 283 yarder. This swing interface just doesn't feel fluid to me; I sincerely hope this demo has tuning problems.

I'm curious to read the reactions of the Kinect owners who try the demo. There's a "First Person Camera" option available in the presentation settings menu. You can turn it "on" even with a controller, but there's a note on the menu page that says it's only active when the Kinect is in use. I'd like to know how the First-Person camera views might improve on the disappointing cut-views that are packaged with the True-Aim camera. Mostly, I want to find out if the Kinect delivers something closer to a playable game than the controller, at least in the demo!
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Online club is open.

Search for Digital Sportspage

Password is thunderbolt

I have a meeting right now but will come back and post what I found inside it.

I set up a weekly tournament, options are interesting. I have no idea if this tournament will even show up in the demo.

When someone else joins let me know if you can also set up a tournament.
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Danimal wrote:Online club is open.

When someone else joins let me know if you can also set up a tournament.
Dan, I joined and it said I would receive a confirmation e-mail from the club administrator if I was accepted. Nice logo btw... I like it! The Online Country Club menu in the demo isn't active. When you click on it, it just takes you to a feature page telling us everything we've already seen on their website. I see your weekly tournament you created on the club's website. So we'll be able to tee off at Blackwolf Run in 9 minutes, the way I'm seeing it :) It also looks like we'll only be able to have one Daily and one Weekly Tournament active at a time.
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I have joined as well. Thanks for setting this up.
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I'll get in as soon as it's downloaded. Preordered the Collector's Edition just a few minutes ago when I picked up Mass Effect 3...
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So Dchapps joined and I can see that I can promote anyone to an admin.

During setup of the club there was an option called petitions which I have no idea what it does so I set it to on.

On the main screen besides promoting people and changing club options I have basically 2 choices. Create a Daily Tournament or a Weekly tournament. Regardless of type I have these options.

Course: 37 in the list right now
Holes: 9 or 18
Duration: 1 day is only option for daily. 4-7 for weekly. I have no idea if weekly means more then one round in the tourney if not then there doesn't appear to be a way to string a 4 round tournament with cuts into the system.
Start time: when it opens
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Submissions: 1 - 10 and unlimited (Not sure how these two work together. I would assume if I set 1 try you only get 1 submission however the drop downs aren't preventing me from that)

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Putt Preview
Swing Meter
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You then have a Caddie option for automatic, Manual or off

Finally a Motion Controller option for off or on.

There is no help anywhere saying what these specifically do that I can find.
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J_Cauthen wrote: Dan, I joined and it said I would receive a confirmation e-mail from the club administrator if I was accepted. Nice logo btw... I like it! The Online Country Club menu in the demo isn't active. When you click on it, it just takes you to a feature page telling us everything we've already seen on their website. I see your weekly tournament you created on the club's website. So we'll be able to tee off at Blackwolf Run in 9 minutes, the way I'm seeing it :) It also looks like we'll only be able to have one Daily and one Weekly Tournament active at a time.
Well that's odd because I don't see anywhere I need to approve you. I see you, DChapps and Vader as members. Clicking the options next to your name gives me two choices. Make you an admin or boot you out.

John I made you an admin so you can play around as you might have more time then I do today. But other then what I posted I don't see many options.
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Also you're right tourneys can't overlap
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I just joined the Digital Sportspage Country Club.

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BTW 25 person max for the country club apparently
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I realize that I might not be the most 'simhead' person out there, but I've played the demo via Kinect, and...I love it. Turned on First Person View, and I am fully on board with the 'face the tv' thing, because, when I look up, I'm looking down at the ball...just as I was meant to. Wonderful. Is it perfect? I'm sure it's not, and I'm sure I'll hear all the ways it isn't, but it's damned perfect for me. I want to play golf, not suck, and play on courses I'll never get to in real life (because I suck). Those are my desires, and every box is checked. I may fiddle with Tournament difficulty with Kinect, but again, I don't WANT to suck. I want to be a badass, and a baller, and a competitive golfer when I play a video game. So I couldn't be happier that I plunked down the jack for this sucker this morning. Gonna sign up for the country club right now, and the end of the month can't get here fast enough. Happy Camper. :D
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Just signed up, but I had to 'petition' to get in, too, Dan. Pending approval from the admin.
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Played a bit of the demo with the controller at lunch. Fun, intuitive, deep. I'm leaning toward buying Tiger at the end of the month. I'm not a golfer, but I've always enjoyed golf games, going all the way back to Birdie King and Golden Tee arcade cabinet games in bars in the 1980s. :)

One minor quibble, though. Maybe I've played too much PC golf over the last five years, but the graphics of Tiger for the 360 do nothing to ignite the inner artist in me. Pretty washed out and lacking in detail from distance. I expected more.

But the game seems to play well, and that's most important.
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I RTJd too.
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Is there a link to join, or did I miss it?

I may not be able to join until I get home from work due to work filters.
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Wilk5280 wrote:Is there a link to join, or did I miss it?

I may not be able to join until I get home from work due to work filters.
found it and was able to join. Pending approval
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Guys, I just learned that I was way offbase with some of my comments about the new swing mechanic. I was having problems getting a full backswing (often no further than ~70%) with two controllers I tried, and then this happened:

I tried my third controller and had the same 65-70% maximum backswing and thought... what the heck is going on here!? I should have thought of this earlier, but I went into the gameplay options and switched to the right stick. Lo and behold, I've now got a full backswing, including the full overswing region! The problem is that I stink with the right thumbstick.

I picked up my 4th controller, the black one that came with my XBox 360 slim and its left stick performed like the right stick in the 3rd controller I tried. I know I've got issues with the left stick now on at least the 3rd controller because while I was swinging with the right stick, the cursor on the strike meter was drifting, on its own, off the top of the ball during my backswing, in Amateur! What are the odds that I have three wireless controllers whose left thumbstick problems were so peculiar that they didn't manifest themselves until this demo? The first controller I tried is designated as my Tiger Woods controller with an etching on it and hasn't affected my backswing in Tiger 12, or my distance, yet it does exactly the same thing in the Tiger 13 demo as two of my other controllers.

Does this change the way the demo now plays for me? Absolutely! It is a better experience for sure and I can feel more of the merits of Total Swing Control as a result.

So, I'm back to being more upbeat about this game, although I still don't like the new scaled distance putting technique. It's like an analog version of what we now call "Classic Putting", where one had seven different putting ranges. I've got to go back out on a new first date with the demo now :)
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Dan, I was able to get into the OCC and set up a Daily Tournament. It doesn't show up in the Daily window when I go to the DSP main member page, or it didn't when I last checked. When I tried to create it again, thinking it hadn't really "taken", I got a message saying I couldn't overlap tournaments and to set the start of my new tournament after the scheduled finish time of the current tournament.

Does anyone see a "Daily" Tournament at Kiawah on the main page at the OCC site now?
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Well I am going to say this website doesn't have all the bugs worked out.

I have petitions off.

With the exception of Teal everyone who got that email about waiting to be approved, well you were already in the user list. In fact I didn't even know how to approve anyone until Teal magically showed up in a new tab called petitions.

If it says you're waiting approval just try logging in again because everyone should be in.
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Danimal wrote:Well I am going to say this website doesn't have all the bugs worked out.

I have petitions off.

With the exception of Teal everyone who got that email about waiting to be approved, well you were already in the user list. In fact I didn't even know how to approve anyone until Teal magically showed up in a new tab called petitions.

If it says you're waiting approval just try logging in again because everyone should be in.
I think you get that message about being approved no matter what. I recall there being an option to petition or enter/login with password at some point. I chose enter/login with password.
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pk500 wrote:Played a bit of the demo with the controller at lunch. Fun, intuitive, deep. I'm leaning toward buying Tiger at the end of the month. I'm not a golfer, but I've always enjoyed golf games, going all the way back to Birdie King and Golden Tee arcade cabinet games in bars in the 1980s. :)

One minor quibble, though. Maybe I've played too much PC golf over the last five years, but the graphics of Tiger for the 360 do nothing to ignite the inner artist in me. Pretty washed out and lacking in detail from distance. I expected more.
Nice to hear Paul...we might actually get around to playing a game online some day!

As far as the graphics, if you compared 13 to 11 or 12, you would see a noticeable improvement in the graphics in many areas, especially in the lighting. They also make use of a new rendering technique for distances called "depth of field". The intention is to remove some of the horsepower needed to render course objects in the distance with as much detail as it does for objects close in. It is also trying to replicate the fact that the farther away you are from an object, the less detail you will notice about that object. Hope that makes sense and glad you are enjoying the demo. This game IS deep and there is a very good discussion going on in the EA Tiger forums with the Dev Team explaining how the new swing mechanic is supposed to work....it is quite a bit different than TW swings in the past....
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The graphical choices make sense, Divot. Thanks.
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Teal wrote:I realize that I might not be the most 'simhead' person out there, but I've played the demo via Kinect, and...I love it. Turned on First Person View, and I am fully on board with the 'face the tv' thing, because, when I look up, I'm looking down at the ball...just as I was meant to. Wonderful.
Just curious Teal, are you using a club or anything like a club with this? I'd just like to get a read on how that might enhance the Kinect experience with this game. So you like the first person view? Does it hold your golfer's eye view until the shot is finished, or does it cut away to the shot's finish, similar to what the True-Aim view does in this demo?
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