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Found it on the sidewalk while walking to the Post Office. Just kidding!Brando70 wrote:I hope you cleaned that nickel off after you squeezed it outpk500 wrote:
What's an impulse buy?
Honestly, I can't remember the last time I've made an impulse buy on anything. OK, to be fair, I walked to the Post Office to mail stuff during lunch today and picked up a prescription at the drug store, and I bought a Tootsie Pop on impulse for a nickel for the walk home up the hill.
PK I'm in the same camp that says the first price drop will be $50 for both Premium and Core. I also think late next year MS might introduce a new model with a 100 gig HDD and HD-DVD player for $449.pk500 wrote:Nothing is easier to promote and sell than a price cut. You can explain to the gaming community that they're getting better technology for the same price, but that doesn't mean sh*t to the non-gamer.Dave wrote:MS is in a tricky spot due to the dual offerings, but I think adding at least a 20gb HD across the board would help propel their XBL strategy better than a straight price cut on the existing packages. It wouldn't surprise me to just see them add the 20gb to the Core and the 100gb to the Premium and not change prices, either.
If MS wants to take a bite into the non-gamer market, then nothing says "Welcome aboard!" like a price cut.
I'm a longtime gamer, but I've been a miserly bastard for even longer, so a $399 Premium with a 100 GB hard drive would be less attractive to me than a $299 Premium with a 20 GB hard drive. Price talks loudest with me.
Take care,
PK
Main Street Pharmacy, 11 E. Main St., Marcellus, N.Y.fsquid wrote:Where the heck do you get Tootsie Pops for a fecking nickle?
Or they could have special edition games on HD-DVD.bdunn13 wrote:I agree but I doubt they will do this. If they did, then you would be forcing consumers to pay for the drive just for movies(as games will never use this on the 360) OR you could let devs use it for games but then you have what would appear to be multiple consoles.Murph wrote:I'm in favor of a built-in HD-DVD drive (with HDMI). I know it's not the same as a price cut, but that's what I want.
Well, because I just got a HD-DVD player I doubt MS would go that route (although never say never) but a bigger HD and a built in HDMI are a must in their next reincarnation of the 360.Murph wrote:I'm in favor of a built-in HD-DVD drive (with HDMI). I know it's not the same as a price cut, but that's what I want.
Certainly MS has to be worried about it. Decisions they make now can really help or screw up their quest to win the console wars this round.DivotMaker wrote:Good read indeed. Seems like MS has a nmumber of ways it can approach a potential price cut or improved product offering. I do agree that any price cut before Sony acts could be perceived as the 360 no longer being a "premium" product. This should be interesting to watch these companies maneuver...
Well, thats just it. They don't have to make any moves at this point in time. However, when they do make a move, they need to get it right. If you are to believe Robbie Bach, MS is not in this to "win" the console war from a number of units sold standpoint, they are targetting profitability first. I honestly don't think they can beat Sony in the number of units sold in the long run with Sony's brand loyalty they achieved with PS1/PS2. But I do expect the installed bases of units to be much closer this generation. If MS can stay within reach of PS3 in number of units sold and maintain profitability, LOOK OUT.dbdynsty25 wrote: Certainly MS has to be worried about it. Decisions they make now can really help or screw up their quest to win the console wars this round.
Inu:Inuyasha wrote:PK : I was in the same boat as you holding off on xbox360. I sold my xbox on ebay for a little over 150 and got the microcenter rebate deal for 100 so it was easy to convice the wife that the console would ultimately cost me around 150 bucks after rebates/paypal.
If you have Xbox, sell it off on ebay with all your accessories and games. At the least you'll get 150 off it.
Why am I telling you this? Because I've had Xbox360 now for not even a week, and it is absolutely awesome. If you liked Xbox Live on Xbox, Xbox Live on 360 is like XboxLive on Steroids. Also, my random games with opponents thus far has been pretty good. Not much cheese as in the older consoles.
Even with a standard tv with component hookup, the games look terrific. If you have a HDTV, you'll be in heaven.
I agree get rid of the core package. Drop the premium down to 299$ and i like the sound of a new premium package like the one you described.I think that would be a good approach for MS to takeDivotMaker wrote:If MS is truly going to do a die shrink in 07, then I think they have several ways to go about this.
1) Get rid of the Core package. Sell the current Premium package at $349 or even $299.
2) Offer a new Premium package at $449 that includes a 100 GB HD (rumored) and the new HD DVD drive in place of the current DVD drive and make WiFi as part of the new machine instead of the adapter. I would pay $499 for such a package and it would be very competitive to Sony, especially the $449.
I don't know how much the die shrink to .65 nm will save MS, but I do believe that the key to competing with Sony will be pricing. MS needs to target loyal Sony customers. If they can manage to sell the fact that there are minimal differences between the two systems as far as HD rendering capabilities, then the next issue will be price. If MS is $100-150 cheaper and there is no perceived advantage to either console, I gotta think that money talks and bullsh1t walks.
This should be an interesting 6 months coming up....
