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DChaps wrote:Of course, it still bugs me that we can't view a tournament scorecard and see how everyone fared for Round 4 at #15. We should be able to look at our scores hole by hole, round by round, and compare them just like you can on the actual PGA website.
Isn't this frustrating? The data is actually in the game, as you point out later, they just don't give us a way to tap into it.
When viewing the leaderboard after each round, I highlight my Gamertag, and then click the yellow "Y" button on the controller for "View Options". Then I just scroll to the "TieBreaker Details" option and click OK. This gives a breakdown of your detailed stats for the tournament that are used to calculate the tiebreaker. Unfortunately, it still does not give a hole by hole scorecard breakdown, but it is better than nothing. Since this tracks cumulative stats for the tournament, I just took screenshots of it after I played each round, which then gave me the ability to have some more detailed round by round stats as seen below.
It would be beneficial and interesting to have the ability to call up these stats and sort them on demand, wouldn't it. I would love to look at these stats and compare them to others in the Club, just to see how things shape up. It would be a lot more interesting, IMO.
Anyway, now that we are back to the grids on and no Caddy I am sucking at putting again. Which makes me wonder if I still don't actually understand how to use the grids effectively.
I find that I still do significantly better with grids and no caddy. I don't know when I can trust the caddy and when I can't. There's somewhat of a pattern to the data he gives you, but I don't know the parameters of that pattern yet. I'm always embarrassed at how many times I try to read the break on my own, and have it totally opposite of what the caddy shows the break to be once I call on him :oops: He always at least gets the direction right, but usually overestimates the breaks on putts that break more than a foot.

I shot a 66 in my first round at Pebble Beach, but I don't feel like I deserved it. I missed a number of putts because I had no confidence in my read or the caddy's read. However, my biggest scoring problem right now is my difficulty in playing approach shots of 40 to 110 yards. I'm having to change my course management so as to not leave myself approaches in that range. I rarely am able to put them closer than 10 yards to the hole. Most of the time I miss them 15 to 20 yards 8O I bogeyed the 7th hole at Pebble Beach after leaving my second shot 42 yards short of the pin. I flew my pitch over the green and took two to get down from there... (whew!)

It may sound like I'm complaining, but I know I can do better at this. I just need to practice and recognize some elements of feedback that I'm overlooking. It's cool that my video golf game presents the same sort of confidence and feel elements that plague me in my real life game. I think that's what's keeping me engrossed in Tiger 13 more than anything else.
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Danimal wrote:.... I got a Rick Fowler card pack when he won the other week for free....
I got that as well, but I have yet to figure out what it actually does. I am very dumb when it comes to understanding what all these Pin/Boost/Player/Course things do.

By the way, I have now played 5 full nights and 7 18 hole rounds without a freeze of any type. As far as I know, I am doing nothing different than I was doing before with regards to how I startup the Xbox, start the game, etc. It really is far more enjoyable when you don't have a 50% lockup rate like I did before. It must be a very odd set of scenarios that are causing these freeze scenarios. Also, I was happy to see that the Weekly has the caddy and no grids. Thanks! Not that I played very well, as I had better rounds at Bethpage.
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Shot a first round of -17 in the weekly as I got into some sort of zone that I've never been in before. Continued the momentum and was on pace to see a similar score during round two and then just fell completely apart on the back side and lost whatever mojo / confidence I had while on the tear. Ended up with a -6 for round two although I I was -9 early through 11.

I really put myself in good position after that first round, but couldn't take full advantage in round 2. Looking forward to finishing up the tourney here in just a little bit.
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J_Cauthen wrote: He always at least gets the direction right, but usually overestimates the breaks on putts that break more than a foot.
I don't agree with you here. He reads them as if you're not moving the aiming device and hitting it at the exact right spot if the putting meter was up. You just need to adjust for how you hit the putts. I generally know how much extra I am giving a put based on the break and I am able to get pretty close.

My main putting problems are with short, downhill breakers. I can't seem to pull the putter back a short amount and get the swing to follow through. Most of my misses are on these putts and they are bad. I usually have a 10+ uphill put coming back that I nail.
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Danimal wrote:I don't agree with you here. He reads them as if you're not moving the aiming device and hitting it at the exact right spot if the putting meter was up. You just need to adjust for how you hit the putts. I generally know how much extra I am giving a put based on the break and I am able to get pretty close.
I'm taking his aiming circle as the spot to which I would be hitting the putt to on a flat green... like I would be trying to make the ball stop in the middle of that circle. Every time I follow his advice on a big breaker, I wind up missing the putt to side of the hole to which he had me aim. Maybe I'm hitting the ball harder than I should due to my putting technique? My technique takes the "overswing" gain out of the equation, but relies on me to modulate the distance based on feel.
My main putting problems are with short, downhill breakers. I can't seem to pull the putter back a short amount and get the swing to follow through. Most of my misses are on these putts and they are bad. I usually have a 10+ uphill put coming back that I nail.
Same here... and part of this is due to the Parkinson's disease which my golfer suffers. The nervous waggling he does with the putterhead at address makes it hard to gauge a short backstroke!
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Wilk5280 wrote:Shot a first round of -17 in the weekly as I got into some sort of zone that I've never been in before.
I saw that -17 posted and did a double take...WOW! 8O You must have been in some kind of zone dude. We've got a tournament on our hands! I've just posted my -6, hope my -17 is coming next :)
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In round 3 I was -4 at the turn and the game froze on me on hole number 10. I seem, for whatever reason, to have the best luck early mornings so I'll try and play the final 2 rounds tomorrow AM.
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J_Cauthen wrote:
Same here... and part of this is due to the Parkinson's disease which my golfer suffers. The nervous waggling he does with the putterhead at address makes it hard to gauge a short backstroke!
I've wondered if the waggling putting animation was intentional or another bug. Hopefully the latter. :roll: :wink:


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MERACE wrote:I've wondered if the waggling putting animation was intentional or another bug. Hopefully the latter. :roll: :wink:
If it is the latter, I hope they can effect a cure with a patch. I've complained about it in the official forum, but a lot of times criticisms like this get lost in the noise.
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So what does concrete hands, no touch, and an unwillingless to learn from your mistakes gets you? a +8 on the third round, 95% because you can't putt worth a damn.

Anything from 10 feet in was an adventure as I just kept slamming the sticks too much.

I think for the second week in a row I'm gonna finish last. Sigh. And I thought after a -1 in the second round I could make up some more ground......
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I am getting so fed with losers quitting early in CC matches. Perhaps EA should highlight the different tournament levels in different fonts or colors for the players that can't read properly the condition of the matches or simply punish the DNF offenders by stripping off some of their XP's to avoid such practice.
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Gangrel wrote:Anything from 10 feet in was an adventure as I just kept slamming the sticks too much.
I've been there Gangrel... I fear a 3 foot left to right downhill breaking putt more than a 15 foot, uphill, left to righter. Seriously, I've got a better chance of making the latter 8O :?: I don't know if the biggest part of your problem with this is the same as mine, but a lot of the problem I have with these under 10 foot putts is the goofy-ass waggling the golfer does with the putter at address. It's hard to gauge when the movement I'm seeing is a result of my input or just the random waggling the golfer is doing. Where does EA Sports get the idea that is representative of real life? Even a 30 handicapper doesn't waggle the putter like that at address :roll: :!: :?: This really cheapens the look and feel of the game, IMO :(
I think for the second week in a row I'm gonna finish last. Sigh. And I thought after a -1 in the second round I could make up some more ground......
Look at it this way, you're going to finish ahead of the 9 players who aren't playing and it still ain't over yet. You're earning status points for the club and you're building XP and personal experience for yourself, so it's definitely worthwhile. It's like Steven Tyler says, 'the road to success is always under construction' :) <Yeah, I watch American Idol, but it's because my wife makes me!>
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10spro wrote:I am getting so fed with losers quitting early in CC matches. Perhaps EA should highlight the different tournament levels in different fonts or colors for the players that can't read properly the condition of the matches or simply punish the DNF offenders by stripping off some of their XP's to avoid such practice.
It does seem to be worse this year. I've seen guys with Skill ratings higher than mine quit after one or two holes. They get DNF's, but don't they also get a loss? I've wondered about that. Still, the new players I encounter that hang on have turned out to be quality gamers and I've added at least two dozen onto my preferred players list. Anyone I've encountered from the Over The Hill or Champion's Gate clubs have been quality gamers and people.
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J_Cauthen wrote:
Gangrel wrote:Anything from 10 feet in was an adventure as I just kept slamming the sticks too much.
I've been there Gangrel... I fear a 3 foot left to right downhill breaking putt more than a 15 foot, uphill, left to righter. Seriously, I've got a better chance of making the latter 8O :?: I don't know if the biggest part of your problem with this is the same as mine, but a lot of the problem I have with these under 10 foot putts is the goofy-ass waggling the golfer does with the putter at address. It's hard to gauge when the movement I'm seeing is a result of my input or just the random waggling the golfer is doing. Where does EA Sports get the idea that is representative of real life? Even a 30 handicapper doesn't waggle the putter like that at address :roll: :!: :?: This really cheapens the look and feel of the game, IMO :(
I think for the second week in a row I'm gonna finish last. Sigh. And I thought after a -1 in the second round I could make up some more ground......
Look at it this way, you're going to finish ahead of the 9 players who aren't playing and it still ain't over yet. You're earning status points for the club and you're building XP and personal experience for yourself, so it's definitely worthwhile. It's like Steven Tyler says, 'the road to success is always under construction' :) <Yeah, I watch American Idol, but it's because my wife makes me!>
lol. Ya, all my griping aside, the game still is fun for me. Heck, if I quit because I didn't play well, I wouldn't play real golf either!

There are still things I think they need to change though. I still think the chipping animation is non-existant. And I do not fear hitting into the rough or bunkers at all, which makes me laugh when I see the screen tips about "don't be aggresive, hitting out of bunkers is hard!" Uhm.... not really.

The other thing I get confused on is this. When I move the ball in my stance to add loft, the aiming marker moves accordingly. Yet most times when I make my stroke, the ball seems to end up FAR shorter then the marker showed me pre-shot. Which is fine with me, I don't mind that. But I just find it confusing that sometimes the aiming marker seems to show exactly your short (chips, pitches) and sometimes not (stance changes)

Maybe I'm just missing something.....
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Gangrel wrote: There are still things I think they need to change though. I still think the chipping animation is non-existant.
Agreed... the only thing they did get right with the chips is they now have the trajectory and roll of a real chip shot. I try to ignore the golfer animation when I'm chipping and look only at clubhead movement.
And I do not fear hitting into the rough or bunkers at all, which makes me laugh when I see the screen tips about "don't be aggresive, hitting out of bunkers is hard!" Uhm.... not really.
:lol: Really... I wish I could hit a 3-hybrid 220 yards out of a half buried lie in a fairway bunker! I do however respect buried lies in greenside bunkers.
The other thing I get confused on is this. When I move the ball in my stance to add loft, the aiming marker moves accordingly. Yet most times when I make my stroke, the ball seems to end up FAR shorter then the marker showed me pre-shot. Which is fine with me, I don't mind that. But I just find it confusing that sometimes the aiming marker seems to show exactly your short (chips, pitches) and sometimes not (stance changes)

Maybe I'm just missing something.....
Ditto... this is why I'm better off setting up for approaches that aren't in the 40 to 110 yard range. Haven't figured it out in over 200 rounds of play so far, so I just swallow my pride and concede that I can't play that part of the game.
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This week's DLC Monday will be TPC Doral. It's available on the open market now. I bought 3-rounds of play on it using my EA game coins.
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Keep in mind this weeks weekly is a DLC course as well in Oakmont
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Struggled mightily at he Masters last night. When I landed just 5 foot of the very first hole for birdie, missed the par by a hair and casually flicked the stick for bogey, I should have known what kind of a round I was going to have for the rest of the day. Putted 3-4 times a couple of times, found myself in the bushes, couldn't get the ball out of the sand cleanly and finished +5.

Vader, that -9 looks amazing.
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Yep, I struggled as well. Had a double on the first par 5 as I went into the trees to the left and, well, tried to play a couple shots to get on the green that didn't work out. I got down to -3, but then bogied holes 15,16,17 and had to make a 17ft putt on 18 for par.
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10spro wrote: Vader, that -9 looks amazing.
Hoping that holds up, would be my first daily win. Could have had a -11 if not for a mishit on a tap in and also had one downhill putt go in the hole and just lipped out.
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vader29 wrote:Hoping that holds up, would be my first daily win. Could have had a -11 if not for a mishit on a tap in and also had one downhill putt go in the hole and just lipped out.
I think you can go ahead and cash your check for this tournament Vader! A 63 is an awesome score for Augusta National under these conditions. I only had three birdies the entire round... only hit 8 GIR.

I had just upped my power from 95 to 100 before the round and it turned out to be a real mistake. Every green I missed was because I hit my approach too strong. It was like those five extra power points really amplified my overswing tendencies. I changed my power back to 95 after the round and got my confidence back.
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I was 3 under after the first two holes, but couldn't muster any scoring chances after that. :-(
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vader29 wrote:
10spro wrote: Vader, that -9 looks amazing.
Hoping that holds up, would be my first daily win. Could have had a -11 if not for a mishit on a tap in and also had one downhill putt go in the hole and just lipped out.
Agreed, nice going! I had a very slow start as it was only my 3rd round in the past 2 weeks and I was -2 at the turn. Got to -6 at 13 with an eagle. Par at 14, then I was hoping for a birdie minimum and eagle possibility for 15 which ended up as a par when I pulled my drive left and hit the trees on my approach. Then a bogey on 16 killed any chances for a tie.....
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After shooting like crap in the daily yesterday I decided to try round 1 at the weekly. I was -6 thru 9 and was crusing along. Well I made a bogey on 10 and then a bogey on a par 5 and never got it going again.

On another note... I would really LOVE to play Oakmont IRL :D
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orthostud23 wrote:After shooting like crap in the daily yesterday I decided to try round 1 at the weekly. I was -6 thru 9 and was crusing along. Well I made a bogey on 10 and then a bogey on a par 5 and never got it going again.

On another note... I would really LOVE to play Oakmont IRL :D
Ditto. After not playing for 2 weeks, what little game I had going is gone. Played Doral and could not hit a FW, green or putt to save my life. When you start out bogey-bogey, then finish with a double bogey, it is tough to compete, especially as well as Wilk is playing....
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