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Solid race by Seb, I lost my streaming feed just when things got good. This is what I love about F1, the drama, not the on track drama but away from it. Now Mercedes is accusing Ferrari of trying to take out it's cars in the last two races. Gotta love it.
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Rodster wrote: Now Mercedes is accusing Ferrari of trying to take out it's cars in the last two races. Gotta love it.
Sure looks like they were. They have done it .

:wink: :lol:

F1 is fun this year for sure. That first lap had REAL racing.

I was wondering about Lewis at the start? Why so f***in slow tortoise boy? was he texting his gf? So f***in slow
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XXXIV wrote: I was wondering about Lewis at the start? Why so f***in slow tortoise boy? was he texting his gf? So f***in slow
He said during the Q&A that he was too aggressive at the start and got a lot of wheelspin. If you noticed Seb’s start there was no wheelspin from his Ferrari. The Ferrari’s produce the best standing starts on the grid.
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XXXIV wrote: I was wondering about Lewis at the start? Why so f***in slow tortoise boy? was he texting his gf? So f***in slow
He said during the Q&A that he was too aggressive at the start and got a lot of wheelspin. If you noticed Seb’s start there was no wheelspin from his Ferrari. The Ferrari’s produce the best standing starts on the grid.

This is the most fun its been since I got serious watching...Thanks Zep
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XXXIV wrote: I was wondering about Lewis at the start? Why so f***in slow tortoise boy? was he texting his gf? So f***in slow
He said during the Q&A that he was too aggressive at the start and got a lot of wheelspin. If you noticed Seb’s start there was no wheelspin from his Ferrari. The Ferrari’s produce the best standing starts on the grid.

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Rodster wrote:Solid race by Seb, I lost my streaming feed just when things got good. This is what I love about F1, the drama, not the on track drama but away from it. Now Mercedes is accusing Ferrari of trying to take out it's cars in the last two races. Gotta love it.
Actually what was happening on the track was "epic stuff" according to the announcers on the ESPN feed.

They had 3 of the top 4 or the top 3 guys maintaining about 2 seconds from each other. They showed an overhead shot of those 3 cars seemingly moving through some of the turns like they were being controlled by one source or like birds or fish which move in unison almost.

I guess in the last 5 laps, one guy fell from the top down to fourth place.

So sunny that maybe it was fake news that this was the British GP.
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Wow.

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RIP William Dunlop. I love true motorcycle road racing to my core, but its inherent danger takes too many far too soon.

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Hamilton apologized this morning for questioning if Kimi intentionally hit him:

https://racer.com/2018/07/09/hamilton-a ... -outburst/

Such a drama queen. Sorry, Lewis, that your true emotion didn't mesh with your carefully crafted brand, which caused your handlers to demand that you issue a ham-fisted apology.

There's nothing genuine about Lewis. Incredible talent, but I LOATHE him.
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I think Lewis had NO choice but to apologize. He along with Toto Wolff and James Allison were three mates on the same lonely island. Jenson, said it wasn't intentional, so did Christian Horner, and Maurizio Arrivabene liven things up by saying former employee Allison should be ashamed of himself.

I saw it as a racing incident as well Vettel's tussle with Bottas in France. It happens and it's a part of racing. It didn't help that Kimi's wife joined in on the beatdown saying Lewis was crying like a little girl and that he's into ballet dancing. I didn't see the post race interview but I read supposedly, Lewis was fuming and went directly to the podium so as not to answer any questions.
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Rodster wrote:I think Lewis had NO choice but to apologize. He along with Toto Wolff and James Allison were three mates on the same lonely island. Jenson, said it wasn't intentional, so did Christian Horner, and Maurizio Arrivabene liven things up by saying former employee Allison should be ashamed of himself.
Why? Why does social pressure force someone to apologize, especially if that was his true feeling? The press conference took place close to an hour after the race, and Lewis still pointed the finger directly at shady dealings by Ferrari.

This was a clear case of Lewis protecting his "brand" by offering a mealy-mouth apology. He's such a tool. Might be my most despised motorsports athlete on Earth.

Now I love Kimi's wife even more ... :)
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Just got back from a great weekend in Iowa, definitely recommend checking out a race there to any IndyCar fans. It's the closest race for me and might be an annual trip moving forward, especially since my youngest son is really taking to racing.

There was so much going on in the race, it was obvious from the start that Hinch's car was a rocket as he took off from the middle of the pack to the front quickly. Totally missed Pigot's progress, with the sun I kept thinking that it wasn't actually #21 that high up on the scoring pylon but sure enough he had a great run.

Bummer of a finish though, with Newgarden and Wickens pitting themselves off the podium due to confusion. Kept thinking that it was next-to-impossible to get back to green on such a small track, but some teams clearly felt like IndyCar would get it going again.
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It looks like the 2021 Formula 1 engine regulations are in trouble. They were supposed to attract new engine suppliers and NO ONE has stepped up. Now the current OEM's Ferrari, Merc, Renault and Honda are saying it's going to hurt the current engine mfg to change things by driving costs up without new entrants. They do have a point, although F1 needs to get simpler and cheaper for all the teams involved.
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Rodster wrote:They do have a point, although F1 needs to get simpler and cheaper for all the teams involved.
Will never happen.

F1 built its series and cache on wealth, technology, elitism and Darwinism. F1 loves to tell everyone how its cars are the most technologically sophisticated and expensive machines on Earth (even if a proper LMP1 factory car is just as pricey and arguably has more technology). F1 loves to say how all of its teams must survive on meritocracy.

What does F1 become with less money, tech and a budget cap?
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Think I read somewhere that an electric car set the record for ascending Pike's Peak.

Maybe they'll have races with EVs. More limited range and maybe they're able to swap batteries at the pit stop, though managing the risk of battery fires in the pits could be tricky.

Would be weird, without loud engine noise from the cars.
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wco81 wrote:Think I read somewhere that an electric car set the record for ascending Pike's Peak.

Maybe they'll have races with EVs. More limited range and maybe they're able to swap batteries at the pit stop, though managing the risk of battery fires in the pits could be tricky.

Would be weird, without loud engine noise from the cars.
Time to dispel a myth: Racing fans don't like electric cars, manufacturers do.

There's a belief that Formula E is a popular, successful series worldwide that could someday rival F1. That is the biggest load of PR-driven trash in motorsport. Formula E is not popular among fans. It's a street festival that draws new eyeballs as an event, not a motor race.

The visceral sound and feel of motorsport is a great part of its appeal. It's more than just looking fast -- it's sounding fast, too.

Petrol NEVER should disappear from motorsport. The day that happens is the day I follow something else.
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GB_Simo wrote:I'd have no issue at all with Eric Boullier popping up at Williams. He won't, but if he did, that'd be just fine.

That wasn't an awful Grand Prix at a properly warm Silverstone. I'm a couple of hundred miles north of there, but I haven't seen rain for over a month, nor that much in the way of cloud. It's still nothing like as warm, however, as the air behind Santino Ferrucci's eyes must have been. There follows a comprehensive study in what happens when a moneyed brat of moderate talent absolutely loses his sh*t:
Following today's FIA Formula 2 Championship Sprint Race, it was found that Trident's Santino Ferrucci was in breach of multiple regulations throughout the race.

Firstly, following his contact with Arjun Maini on the cooldown lap of the race, it was determined that Ferrucci deliberately drove into the rear of his teammate - breaching the Sporting Regulations. After the stewards had heard testimony from the team that this was a premeditated incident, Ferrucci was summoned to the hearing but declined to attend. As a consequence, the American driver has been suspended from the next two FIA Formula 2 Championship rounds - meaning he will not be permitted to participate in both Budapest and Spa-Francorchamps - and has also been given a fine of €60,000.

In another incident with his teammate, Ferrucci was found to have deliberately forced Maini off of the road at Turn 4 after the Indian driver proceeded to make a pass for position. Once again, Ferrucci declined to attend the hearing, and has been disqualified from the results of the Sprint Race.

Having also been observed transitioning from the support paddock to the race pitlane wearing just one glove and holding a phone in his hand by a Technical Delegate, Ferrucci also violated both the Technical and Sporting Regulations for incorrect driver safety equipment and the prohibition of wireless transmission devices within the car. For these transgressions, he has earned a further €6000 in fines.

His team, it would appear, have taken it well:
Trident intends to show their solidarity and support to @ArjunMaini_ and his family, for the unsportsmanlike and above all uncivilized behavior that he was forced to endure not only during this last weekend by Santino Ferrucci and father, who accompanied him. The contractual implications of what has happened will be dealt with by our lawyers. Never in these 12 years of sporting activity has anything even close to this ever occurred. We apologize for the show that we have regretfully offered.
I watched the SkyF1 Report and both should NOT be behind the wheel of any race car. Rachel Brooks played the post race radio chatter with Maini and his team, supposedly from the previous race and he was literally crying/weeping over the radio asking why the team doesn't support him for the championship. Formula 2 doesn't need emotionally unstable drivers behind the wheel of a car.

I'd fire both of them but chances are they bring a lot of money to the team so it will probably be swept under the rug.
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It sure was a lot easier to root for Ferrucci when the extent of my knowledge was "young American F1 hopeful" than it is now. What a knob, now hoping his Detroit weekend with Coyne is all we see of him in IndyCar.
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Dave wrote:It sure was a lot easier to root for Ferrucci when the extent of my knowledge was "young American F1 hopeful" than it is now. What a knob, now hoping his Detroit weekend with Coyne is all we see of him in IndyCar.
I have no desire to see Ferrucci again in an Indy car. The ABC and RACER guys kept saying what a good job he did in Detroit, but I saw nothing on the Wickens level of special. Not even close.

But he will land a seat if Daddy signs a big enough check, becoming the Lance Stroll of IndyCar.

The last 12 laps of Silverstone were the best F1 racing I've seen all season and perhaps in a few years. A straight-up fight among all four drivers in the top two teams. All four guys were at 10/10ths, with a lot at stake. Spellbinding racing.
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pk500 wrote:The last 12 laps of Silverstone were the best F1 racing I've seen all season and perhaps in a few years. A straight-up fight among all four drivers in the top two teams. All four guys were at 10/10ths, with a lot at stake. Spellbinding racing.
The only thing that could have topped that was Bernie Eccelstone's trackside sprinkler system. :lol:
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James Cowton killed in a multi-bike crash today in the Southern 100, with Ivan Lintin suffering critical injuries.

Man, it has been a BRUTAL six-week stretch for fans of motorcycle road racing like me. Dan Kneen, Adam Lyon, William Dunlop and now Cowton, all gone far too soon.
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Jacques Villeneuve, the last driver to win a world championship with Williams, believes his former team is "dead" after its recent struggles. Villeneuve, who is known for being outspoken, believes deputy team principal Claire Williams is to blame after taking control of the team in 2013. "The team is dead," he told Motorsport-Total.com. "There is no management. There was a choice back then [in 2013], you either put the heiress or the heir [in charge]. "And they put Claire instead of Jonathan [Williams, Claire's brother]. Big mistake. Obviously, just look where the team is at now."

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/240 ... -team-dead
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Rodster wrote:Jacques Villeneuve, the last driver to win a world championship with Williams, believes his former team is "dead" after its recent struggles. Villeneuve, who is known for being outspoken, believes deputy team principal Claire Williams is to blame after taking control of the team in 2013. "The team is dead," he told Motorsport-Total.com. "There is no management. There was a choice back then [in 2013], you either put the heiress or the heir [in charge]. "And they put Claire instead of Jonathan [Williams, Claire's brother]. Big mistake. Obviously, just look where the team is at now."

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/240 ... -team-dead
And the sad aspect of that decision is that it destroyed Jonathan and Claire's relationship as brother and sister. They still don't talk, as of a podcast I heard and a story I read last year.
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Rodster wrote:Jacques Villeneuve, the last driver to win a world championship with Williams, believes his former team is "dead" after its recent struggles. Villeneuve, who is known for being outspoken, believes deputy team principal Claire Williams is to blame after taking control of the team in 2013. "The team is dead," he told Motorsport-Total.com. "There is no management. There was a choice back then [in 2013], you either put the heiress or the heir [in charge]. "And they put Claire instead of Jonathan [Williams, Claire's brother]. Big mistake. Obviously, just look where the team is at now."

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/240 ... -team-dead

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wco81 wrote:
Rodster wrote:Jacques Villeneuve, the last driver to win a world championship with Williams, believes his former team is "dead" after its recent struggles. Villeneuve, who is known for being outspoken, believes deputy team principal Claire Williams is to blame after taking control of the team in 2013. "The team is dead," he told Motorsport-Total.com. "There is no management. There was a choice back then [in 2013], you either put the heiress or the heir [in charge]. "And they put Claire instead of Jonathan [Williams, Claire's brother]. Big mistake. Obviously, just look where the team is at now."

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/240 ... -team-dead

Sexist?
Who's being a sexist, Jacques? The brother has a motorsport background and the sister did not but her dad picked her to run his team.
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