2007 NCAA Football Discussion

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:33 am

XXXIV wrote:
pigpen81 wrote: Coach Charlie...you are a prick. 1-8....LOL...way to go Irish...I hope they can his ass....
d*****bag for sure.

He learned from the king of coaching dicks, Bill Belichick.

Take care,
PK

pigpen81 · Post by **pigpen81** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 2:53 am

macsomjrr wrote:
kevinpars wrote: Honestly - and I am a big FSU and ACC fan - I don;t think BC could beat a 3 loss UF team, much less LSU or Oregon.
Oregon = National Champs
Dixon = Heisman
Pac 10 = toughest conference in college football

...Macsomjrr = USC fan = very disappointed

Arrrgghhh!

What about that Aztec victory tonight!

21 down and came back against the Cowturds.

WTG aztecs.

My son is a year away from being able to attend games...can't wait!

EZSnappin · Post by **EZSnappin** » Sun Nov 04, 2007 9:43 am

pk500 wrote:
XXXIV wrote:
pigpen81 wrote: Coach Charlie...you are a prick. 1-8....LOL...way to go Irish...I hope they can his ass....
d*****bag for sure.
He learned from the king of coaching dicks, Bill Belichick.

Take care,
PK

And they all learned from the godfather of dickwad coaches, Bill Parcells.

I've never seen nor heard any of this kind of crap about Romeo in Cleveland. Is he the only one free of Tuna stink?

jondiehl · Post by **jondiehl** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:57 pm

sportdan30 wrote: Good luck to Mizzou this evening!

With the Big 12 holding the 4th, 5th and 6th spots in the BCS rankings, we might see some leapfrogging in the top 3 BCS spots when #6 Mizzou and #4 KU faceoff, and then the winner takes on #5 Oklahoma for the Big 12 championship (assuming those 3 teams continue to run the table until they meet each other).

With the Big 10 and Pac 10 not having conference championship games, it puts those winners at a disadvantage of being idle while these other top teams are playing highly ranked opponents and picking up valuable BCS points.

If Ohio State loses at Michigan in two weeks (entirely possible, OSU has had a soft schedule and these aren't the same Wolverines that lost to Appalachian State in Sept), that's going to create a real opportunity for one of these Big 12 teams to bump up to the #2 spot.

Or, perhaps LSU will get taken down in the SEC championship game against Georgia. With the game being in Atlanta, the Bulldogs will have the crowd on their side, almost like a home game.

KU has played mostly cupcakes on their schedule, so they're hard to figure out. They've escaped with wins against good opponents. Playing Mizzou and Oklahoma back to back will be the Jayhawk's first real test of the season. If they enter Arrowhead still undefeated, come out with a win over Mizzou, then take down the Sooners for the Big 12 title, I don't see how the voters can keep them out of the national title game. None of these other top teams are having to face this kind of competition in December.

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:54 am

Here are some pics from the UGA./Troy game this weekend.

Georgia celebrates before the game.

Lineing up for the snap..

A score UGA fans will always want to remember.

UGA VI

RobVarak · Post by **RobVarak** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:33 pm

That is easily the most gratifying Illinois win I've ever seen. There is nothing quite like silencing 111,000 OSU fans.

Way to stay classy at the end there, Buckeyes.

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 7:42 pm

RobVarak wrote:That is easily the most gratifying Illinois win I've ever seen. There is nothing quite like silencing 111,000 OSU fans.

Way to stay classy at the end there, Buckeyes.

A perfectly awesome thing.

But bdunn, I hope you are enjoying the HELL out of the GA-AU game, because I'd be pulling my hair out right now...

...if I had any...

jondiehl · Post by **jondiehl** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:10 pm

RobVarak wrote:That is easily the most gratifying Illinois win I've ever seen. There is nothing quite like silencing 111,000 OSU fans.

Oh baby, what an awesome day of D1 football.

Mizzou continues their path to a showdown against KU with a nice win with their 10th straight 30+ point game. Illinois takes down #1 OSU, helping Missouri out by likely dropping OSU out of title contention AND helping Mizzou's strength of schedule (since they beat the Illini in week 1).

Then Michigan goes down, making Oregon's win against them back in Sept. a little weaker.

KU and Oklahoma just need to win their next 2 games to make sure the Big12 champ plays for the national championship. At this point, I think Oregon and LSU could win out and one of them is going to get leapfrogged by the Big 12 champ.

If Mizzou beats an 11-0, 4th ranked KU team, then beats a 10-1, 3rd ranked Oklahoma team in the Big12 title game, with their only loss against the Sooners, in Oklahoma when their were 6th ranked, I'm not sure how you could deny them a shot at the title.

If KU runs the table and takes out the 5th and 6th ranked teams for their final two games and stays undefeated, there's no way they'll be denied a shot.

If OU wins the Big12 with 3 wins against ranked opponents, they've got to make it in too.

Ducks fans had better hope that KU or Missouri gets upset before their final showdown Thanksgiving weekend, otherwise Oregon might get jumped over when the Big12 plays their conference championship game and they're sitting at home without a conference title game to play in to boost their BCS ranking.

bkrich83 · Post by **bkrich83** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:42 pm

If Oregon and LSU win out, no one is going to jump them.

Oregon has wins over USC, ASU and Michigan and their only loss would be to Cal. Factor in they're higher in both polls, and they won't get jumped.

seanmac31 · Post by **seanmac31** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 9:50 pm

bkrich83 wrote:If Oregon and LSU win out, no one is going to jump them.

I totally agree. The Big 12 teams have no shot unless there is an LSU loss in the SEC title game (Oregon's not losing again this year).[/b]

jondiehl · Post by **jondiehl** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:08 pm

seanmac31 wrote:
bkrich83 wrote:If Oregon and LSU win out, no one is going to jump them.
I totally agree. The Big 12 teams have no shot unless there is an LSU loss in the SEC title game (Oregon's not losing again this year).

If KU ends up undefeated, having just beaten the #4 and #5 BCS teams back to back, don't you think they'll either get enough computer points to vault them into the 2nd BCS spot, OR they might get enough votes to put them #2 in one or both of the human polls?

I think we're headed for a split national champion any way you cut it, depending on how the BCS bowls get paired up of course.

bkrich83 · Post by **bkrich83** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:09 pm

jondiehl wrote:
seanmac31 wrote:
bkrich83 wrote:If Oregon and LSU win out, no one is going to jump them.
I totally agree. The Big 12 teams have no shot unless there is an LSU loss in the SEC title game (Oregon's not losing again this year).
If KU ends up undefeated, having just beaten the #4 and #5 BCS teams back to back, don't you think they'll either get enough computer points to vault them into the 2nd BCS spot, OR they might get enough votes to put them #2 in one or both of the human polls?

Nope. I don't think so. Stranger things have happened, but I don't think it will happen.

tjung0831 · Post by **tjung0831** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:59 pm

I think one of the big 12 teams has an excellent shot at at leaping over the #2 team...whoever that might be in a few weeks.

Tim

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:59 pm

I don't know if KU is deserving of their ranking, but man this is one amazing Kansas football season. Never to be seen again for many many years. Just to hear their name in the BCS rankings is unreal.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 12:51 am

tjung0831 wrote:I think one of the big 12 teams has an excellent shot at at leaping over the #2 team...whoever that might be in a few weeks.

Tim

Agreed 100 percent. Even the media are becoming believers of KU and MU. If KU runs the table against ISU, MU, and OU, they're in without a doubt. It would be a travesty if they allowed two one loss teams in the Championship game.

Also, if MU beats KU and OU, they've got a good argument they should be in the National Championship game. They will have beaten number 3 and number 4 in route to the big game. Hard to discount that.

macsomjrr · Post by **macsomjrr** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:17 am

I wonder if Hawaii will be top five if they beat Boise St. next weekend.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:07 am

tealboy03 wrote:
RobVarak wrote:That is easily the most gratifying Illinois win I've ever seen. There is nothing quite like silencing 111,000 OSU fans.

Way to stay classy at the end there, Buckeyes.

A perfectly awesome thing.

But bdunn, I hope you are enjoying the HELL out of the GA-AU game, because I'd be pulling my hair out right now...

...if I had any...

I loved that....

JRod · Post by **JRod** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:16 am

Good the Ohio State Loss will shut up the OSU homers for atleast a week.

Come on Michagan.

kevinpars · Post by **kevinpars** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 9:10 am

While I am not at all a fan of the Sooners, it would be a kind of karma if they jumped Oregon - when you consider what happened in their game last year.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 10:17 am

If KU wins out, they will get a shot at the National Title, that you can count on.

But they are not going to get by Mizzou.

bkrich83 · Post by **bkrich83** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 11:50 am

kevinpars wrote:While I am not at all a fan of the Sooners, it would be a kind of karma if they jumped Oregon - when you consider what happened in their game last year.

Yeah, because it was Oregon's fault the officials screwed up.

tjung0831 · Post by **tjung0831** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:31 pm

Oregon not having to play a conference championship game is gonna get jumped by KU for sure should they beat Mizzou and win out. If Mizzou beats KU and OU and they very well could, then Mizzou is gonna get a big enough points boost to jump over Oregon. If Kansas wins out though...they're in the national championship game without question. Who would have thought that Mizzou and Kansas was going to end up being the game of the year.

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:10 pm

If Kansas goes undefeated, I don't see how they can't play in the national title game. In fact, I think they would have to be the #1 team in the polls at that point, even if LSU wins out. Their strength of schedule would be a non-issue after wins over Mizzou and the Big 12 title game opponent.

bkrich83 · Post by **bkrich83** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 6:18 pm

Brando70 wrote:If Kansas goes undefeated, I don't see how they can't play in the national title game. In fact, I think they would have to be the #1 team in the polls at that point, even if LSU wins out. Their strength of schedule would be a non-issue after wins over Mizzou and the Big 12 title game opponent.

As it stands now Kansas has a Strength of Schedule of 86. LSU is at 17 and Oregon at 3. How much is playing OU and Mizzou going to make up?

Just a side note. OU is at 65 and Mizzou is at 43.

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 8:13 pm

bkrich83 wrote:
Brando70 wrote:If Kansas goes undefeated, I don't see how they can't play in the national title game. In fact, I think they would have to be the #1 team in the polls at that point, even if LSU wins out. Their strength of schedule would be a non-issue after wins over Mizzou and the Big 12 title game opponent.
As it stands now Kansas has a Strength of Schedule of 86. LSU is at 17 and Oregon at 3. How much is playing OU and Mizzou going to make up?

Just a side note. OU is at 65 and Mizzou is at 43.

I'm not trying to suggest that Oregon isn't an elite team and deserving of a high ranking. Kansas has definitely had an easier schedule. But I don't think a team from a BCS conference should be denied a spot in the championship game if it is the only undefeated BCS team left. What I wonder is whether the Harris voters and Coaches would rank KU #1 if they finish undefeated, which would probably give them enough juice in the BCS to go to the title game. To me, they should be the #1 team in that case even if they played a weaker schedule.

There's a lot of football left to play, so this is all academic right now.