OT The NCAA Football Season Discussion

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 4:57 am

If SC goes down to ND, then all hell is gonna break loose. Hello Boise St. and Rutgers (and yes, Boise St. was lucky as hell tonight). No way in hell they can sneak into the title game if all of the big time 1 loss teams lose again....can they?

snaz16 · Post by **snaz16** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 9:56 am

dbdynsty25 wrote:If SC goes down to ND, then all hell is gonna break loose. Hello Boise St. and Rutgers (and yes, Boise St. was lucky as hell tonight). No way in hell they can sneak into the title game if all of the big time 1 loss teams lose again....can they?

Or Cal for that matter. Obviously the Bears were looking forward to next week,and got stung. Should have a clear head for the Trojans next week.
Still a lot of football to go.

Sully · Post by **Sully** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:10 am

I don't see Rutgers beating West Virginia. Then again, I didn't expect them to keep it close with Louisville.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:41 am

snaz16 wrote:
dbdynsty25 wrote:If SC goes down to ND, then all hell is gonna break loose. Hello Boise St. and Rutgers (and yes, Boise St. was lucky as hell tonight). No way in hell they can sneak into the title game if all of the big time 1 loss teams lose again....can they?
Or Cal for that matter. Obviously the Bears were looking forward to next week,and got stung. Should have a clear head for the Trojans next week.
Still a lot of football to go.

No I think Cal was overrated as long as they relied on an unproven QB. Longshore hasn't shown he can win big games and the running game isn't as dominant as in previous years.

bkrich83 · Post by **bkrich83** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:05 pm

Cal did what they always do. Get themselves just in a position to make a statement, then piss down their leg when game time comes.

Cal will never be an elite National Championship type team, because they don't have the will to win games that really count.

Sully · Post by **Sully** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 1:12 pm

bkrich83 wrote:Cal did what they always do. Get themselves just in a position to make a statement, then piss down their leg when game time comes.

Cal will never be an elite National Championship type team, because they don't have the will to win games that really count.

That was harsh.

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:39 pm

Sully wrote:
bkrich83 wrote:Cal did what they always do. Get themselves just in a position to make a statement, then piss down their leg when game time comes.

Cal will never be an elite National Championship type team, because they don't have the will to win games that really count.
That was harsh.

Eh, it's a rivalry. You oughta be down here in Alabama this coming week if you want to hear some really harsh stuff...

...especially considering that the Iron Bowl is now all that either team is playing for...

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:44 pm

Cal's not getting recruits like most top programs, at least not yet.

They can beat up on some other Pac 10 schools and second or third-tier schools in some other top conferences.

But the game against Tennessee is a better gauge of where they stack up talent-wise. At best, Cal can only hope to get leftover talent that USC, Texas, OSU, etc. hasn't picked up. I don't even think they recruit as much nationally as even UCLA. Even Stanford back in the day would get more recruits out of state.

Maybe Tedford will eventually change that but it's going to take time.

bkrich83 · Post by **bkrich83** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:47 pm

tealboy03 wrote:
Sully wrote:
bkrich83 wrote:Cal did what they always do. Get themselves just in a position to make a statement, then piss down their leg when game time comes.

Cal will never be an elite National Championship type team, because they don't have the will to win games that really count.
That was harsh.
Eh, it's a rivalry. You oughta be down here in Alabama this coming week if you want to hear some really harsh stuff...

...especially considering that the Iron Bowl is now all that either team is playing for...

Cal is not much of a rivalry.

bkrich83 · Post by **bkrich83** » Sun Nov 12, 2006 3:58 pm

Sully wrote:
bkrich83 wrote:Cal did what they always do. Get themselves just in a position to make a statement, then piss down their leg when game time comes.

Cal will never be an elite National Championship type team, because they don't have the will to win games that really count.
That was harsh.

You don't have to look any further than the Hollidy Bowl a few years back. They got snubbed, out of a BCS bowl. THey made a huge stink out of it, then when it came to prove they were a legit big time team, who was wrongly left out, Texas Tech. who really wasn't that good, kicked them in the nuts.

GameSeven · Post by **GameSeven** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:40 am

Rutgers at No. 6 in the latest polls... woot.

-G7

jLp vAkEr0 · Post by **jLp vAkEr0** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:45 am

ND jumps to 5.

Can't believe they're still a chance they could make it to the NC game.

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:54 am

bdunn13 wrote:Georgia has lot to Kentucky and Vandy this year.. there is still alot of Football left but damn. This is not what I expected. Battle is having a career day.... maybe Matt is glad he came to Georgia afterall..

Go Dawgs.

Damn, Georgia sucks but after Saturday I felt like we just won the National Championship. I know if if if if but if we freaking beat Vandy and Kentucky we could be looking at 10-11 wins for the 5th year in a row.

All year long Georgia's receivers had an AWFUL case of the drops but damn did they play good against AU. They did not drop a pass all day. And Matt Stafford played damn good.. as good as you can ask a freshman to play. He showed he has some speed too.... helluva athlete.

I think I cheered the hardest saturday when he FINALLY decided to slide

OH! And Georgia FINALLY has an opener schedules.. its Oklahoma..... State

And no we are not traveling.. its between the hedges.

Go Dawgs.

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:11 am

bdunn13 wrote:
bdunn13 wrote:Georgia has lot to Kentucky and Vandy this year.. there is still alot of Football left but damn. This is not what I expected. Battle is having a career day.... maybe Matt is glad he came to Georgia afterall..

Go Dawgs.
Damn, Georgia sucks but after Saturday I felt like we just won the National Championship. I know if if if if but if we freaking beat Vandy and Kentucky we could be looking at 10-11 wins for the 5th year in a row.

All year long Georgia's receivers had an AWFUL case of the drops but damn did they play good against AU. They did not drop a pass all day. And Matt Stafford played damn good.. as good as you can ask a freshman to play. He showed he has some speed too.... helluva athlete.

I think I cheered the hardest saturday when he FINALLY decided to slide

OH! And Georgia FINALLY has an opener schedules.. its Oklahoma..... State And no we are not traveling.. its between the hedges.

Go Dawgs.

yeah, yeah, yeah-twist the knife a little,why dontcha, damn dog fan...

You guys have one hell of a QB for the future, I'll tell you that...

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:17 am

jLp vAkEr0 wrote:ND jumps to 5.

Can't believe they're still a chance they could make it to the NC game.

Hopefully SC will take care of that Nov. 25 and put the Irish out of their overrated, vainglorious misery once and for all.

Take care,
PK

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:35 am

Isn't it some rule that you can't quote yourself?

Brando70 · Post by **Brando70** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:58 am

If the Michigan-OSU game is really close, it's going to suck that the loser will likely fall out of the national title race, even though said losing team could still be the second best team. It's not really fair that late-season losses seem to count more than early season ones.

I think the only way Rutgers has a shot at the title is:
--winning out (no easy task)
--USC beating Notre Dame but losing to Cal or UCLA
--Florida losing to FSU or the SEC championship game

Assuming Notre Dame beats Army, they would stay ahead of Rutgers with a win over USC. Same with USC and Flordia if they win out. The loser of Michigan-OSU will probably drop to 3-7, depending on the margin of victory.

The BCS still sucks, but it is adding quite a bit of drama to an already dramatic season.

hellbent · Post by **hellbent** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:35 am

Brando70 wrote:I think the only way Rutgers has a shot at the title is:
--winning out (no easy task)
--USC beating Notre Dame but losing to Cal or UCLA
--Florida losing to FSU or the SEC championship game

The BCS still sucks, but it is adding quite a bit of drama to an already dramatic season.

Rutgers has an outside shot at the NC game, thin though it might be. I think they're "America's Team" right now for those of us whose programs aren't going to get a whiff at a championship this season. Getting thru WV unscathed is going to be rough, but if Rutgers' defense plays like they did against UL they have a good shot of running the table the rest of the way.

The USC / ND matchup has the biggest potential impact on how the BCS plays out, no doubt.

USC should be able to take care of business against Cal and UCLA, but playing ND is unpredictable. If ND's defense shows up, things could get interesting. Admittedly, the Irish D would have to not only show up, but also play their best game this season. That offense can hang 40-50 points on a team pretty easily.

Florida should pretty much mop the floor with FSU this year. As bad as things are going for UM this year, at least they didn't get shut out and blown out at home by Wake. Right now I'd favor USF to beat FSU - nevermind what the Gators will do to the Noles in a few weeks.

UF does have their work cut out for them in the SEC championship game no matter who they have to face. Almost every game this season between the SEC heavyweights this year has been a toss up.

bdunn13 · Post by **bdunn13** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:41 am

Arkansas is playing the best ball right now in the SEC.

EZSnappin · Post by **EZSnappin** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:21 pm

pk500 wrote:Hopefully SC will take care of that Nov. 25 and put the Irish out of their overrated, vainglorious misery once and for all.

Take care,
PK

This would be a tremendous birthday present for me! ND can suck it.

Though I hope USC loses to Cal or UCLA too - the false claims of back-to-back national championships is such crap. If you are part of the BCS, you live and die by that crappy system. USC won one, end of story.

hellbent · Post by **hellbent** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:45 pm

pk500 wrote:
jLp vAkEr0 wrote:ND jumps to 5.

Can't believe they're still a chance they could make it to the NC game.
Hopefully SC will take care of that Nov. 25 and put the Irish out of their overrated, vainglorious misery once and for all.

Take care,
PK

Heh..."once and for all" for this season at least. Remember how those terrible Powlus QB'd, Davie coached ND squads would steal bowl slots away from more deserving programs in the mid to late 90's? At least they weren't playing for championships.

Still, I think a good ND program is good for college football in general - just like how good Yankees, Lakers, Red Wings & Cowboys teams are good for their respective sports. Gotta have someone that's a universal s*** magnet outside of their hometown. Even the newer Star Wars movies sucked without a full-on evil Darth Vader.

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 12:58 pm

hellbent wrote:Still, I think a good ND program is good for college football in general - just like how good Yankees, Lakers, Red Wings & Cowboys teams are good for their respective sports. Gotta have someone that's a universal s*** magnet outside of their hometown. Even the newer Star Wars movies sucked without a full-on evil Darth Vader.

Great point. Every sport needs heroes and villains.

College football wouldn't be as much fun for me without ND and Penn State to hate, and the NHL would lose luster for me if I didn't have Calgary, Detroit, Anaheim, Dallas, Philly and New Jersey to despise.

Take care,
PK

bkrich83 · Post by **bkrich83** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:13 pm

EZSnappin wrote:[
Though I hope USC loses to Cal or UCLA too - the false claims of back-to-back national championships is such crap. If you are part of the BCS, you live and die by that crappy system. USC won one, end of story.

LMAO.. Ok then.

EZSnappin · Post by **EZSnappin** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:11 pm

bkrich83 wrote:
EZSnappin wrote:[
Though I hope USC loses to Cal or UCLA too - the false claims of back-to-back national championships is such crap. If you are part of the BCS, you live and die by that crappy system. USC won one, end of story.
LMAO.. Ok then.

I hate everyone. I'm a bitter hardcore Celtics fan living off memories of the last championship won twenty years ago.

And I went to William & Mary, whose claim to fame while I was there was almost beating Virginia in basketball once.

So enjoy your asterix then championship then runner-up trifecta, plus whatever comes of this season. Closest thing to a dynasty in years and years.

And at least USC is not Notre Dame!

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:16 pm

EZSnappin wrote:And at least USC is not Notre Dame!

And what a farce it would be if ND made it to the title game over Michigan despite the Wolverines stripping the Irish bare Sept. 16. A total joke.

Take care,
PK