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Jimmydeicide wrote:Yeh and sometimes it says 9 ft instead of 9 inches. obviusly something is wrong then and you have to have a look around :D
The elevation information on the HUD is broken, correct. Good time to pull out the Scout Cam and circle back around behind the cup to make sure....
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pk500 wrote:Learned a painful lesson last night: Do not play TGC 2, especially Oakmont, when altered. Shot a 79 in Round 2. Ugh.
I thought you shot a very nice +2 in the first round? Second round brought me fits with all the wind, but yeah it's a very challenging course.

Nice score Truth!
I was +2 in the first round. Stone sober. Not so in Round 2.

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Can my son and I play on the same ps4 using our own characters or is one of us always stuck playing as GUEST with the generic guy?

Thanks for the help.
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I was faced with the task of playing 8 1/2 rounds of golf after getting home from work last night to finish all of my DSP tournaments in which I was playing. We had dinner guests last night and they wound up staying until almost midnight. I wound up getting 4 of my rounds done, but finished only the PC DSP Society tournament. The good news is I finished in second place, the bad news is I was 40 strokes behind the leader (DivotMaker) :)

I wish I'd concentrated on finishing one of the other console society tournaments instead of splitting my time between them. Two weeks out of ten my rotating shift schedule has me working 12 hour days, Thursday through Sunday. This past week was one of those and it's impossible to squeeze 12 rounds of golf in during all that.

The update on the PC seems to have affected my swing a bit, but I'm not sure how. I'm having more trouble controlling the ball, and I'm even showing a tendency to pull putts a bit. I'm not complaining as I like the challenge it's presenting me. I'm hitting about 62% FIRs and 65% GIRs right now and that feels right. I'm using my XBox 360 Silver Edition controller (wireless) and it feels to good in my hands and I love the fluidity of the thumbstick motion with it, yet still being able to feel the torsional resistance in it.

I'm going to try the XBox One Elite controller on the PC Society Daily today just to see how much difference it was after the update. I've been using the Elite with the XBox One version of the game of late, as I'm able to hit with much better control with it than the standard XBox One controller.
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I'm seeing some pretty low scores in the official societies as well. I'm struggling to break par myself which is fine but I feel like there must be some kind of, I hate to use the word cheats but some kind of things good players know that help get those low scores. Since I fade the ball mostly, I've started putting draw on my shot setup and it is amazing how much that fixes the fade issue 9 out of 10 times. I'm interested if the Elite controller is better but I'm not going to drop $150 to play virtual golf.

I think my biggest issue is I can't tell the difference in my thumb movement from a straight shot to a severe hook or fade. It is hard to get better when you can't figure out what is different, in fact there have been times in the middle of a round where every shot is on and then they start to go off kilter and I swear I've done nothing different with my thumb movement.

As much as I keep coming back to this game there are many areas that could use major improvement. The green beads are not reliable a lot of times. I still have no explanation on why some pitch shots stop on a dime and others roll for miles on similar slope / greens. The Flop shot is over powered to the point that if you can get in position to use it you will always land the ball with a 2-4 foot putt.

Fairway bunker and rough play as noted before is absurd. I played a course yesterday that was a target golf course . I hit my driver and it rolled just about 6 inches too long through the fairway. i now had over 220 yards of rough to the next fairway. That took 3 shots with a hybrid to get there, I wanted to just quit the rounds at this point.

Maybe I'm missing it but I'd really like some other play options then stroke play, specifically match play.

Game is good and addictive but they really need some better training tools for people having a hard time with the game.
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I'm just not being consistently accurate with my swing. My drives are good enough, but my approaches are always a little long, or fade a little too much,etc...leaving with me with a lot of chips.

I am terrible at chipping. Any tips? Either my chip and roll is 15+ yards, or I hit it about 2 feet. Same for getting out of the sand.

I still like the game and swing challenges because it feels like real golf to me, but that also means I can't play and don't enjoy 'video-gamey' courses with small target areas, big elevation changes...etc. Unless your shot accuracy is video-game-like clockwork, I don't see how you play those.
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The PS4 tournament was a full house.. All two of us.. The drama taking place over the 4 days caused the major networks to cut into programming for tournament updates :)
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FifaInspected wrote:The PS4 tournament was a full house.. All two of us.. The drama taking place over the 4 days caused the major networks to cut into programming for tournament updates :)
Yeah, I really wanted to finish that one just to put some more names on the leaderboard 8) I just added MUTT's son, Buggy1424, to the PS4 Society today, and it looks like MERACE is about to hit his stride with the PS4 version. I think the interest in the PS4 version, and playing in PS4 Society's will pick up once the update is in play. If the update at least does for the consoles what it did for the PC version, people will be more willing to invest their time in this game and in the Societies.

FIFA, you've got to play today's Daily at Woodbridge... what a gorgeous course and a great test of golf. I five-starred and Favorited this one! I'm also the 'leader in the clubhouse' :wink:
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Danimal wrote:.....................I think my biggest issue is I can't tell the difference in my thumb movement from a straight shot to a severe hook or fade. It is hard to get better when you can't figure out what is different, in fact there have been times in the middle of a round where every shot is on and then they start to go off kilter and I swear I've done nothing different with my thumb movement.

...... I still have no explanation on why some pitch shots stop on a dime and others roll for miles on similar slope / greens......

Fairway bunker and rough play as noted before is absurd.......
Check, check, and check!
Naples39 wrote:I'm just not being consistently accurate with my swing. My drives are good enough, but my approaches are always a little long, or fade a little too much,etc...leaving with me with a lot of chips.

I am terrible. Any tips? Either my chip and roll is 15+ yards, or I hit it about 2 feet. Same for getting out of the sand.....
Yep, exactly. I was on track to come in last at Oakmont and would have gladly, but after 6 putting on 14 during my third round I just was no longer having fun. Now I know what it must feel like to you casual guys to play a hard core racing sim. :)
pk500 wrote: Didn't finish, as I went to see The Who live last night. Rock and roll always prevails over video games. :)
Damn, I am jealous! How was it?
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J_Cauthen wrote:
FifaInspected wrote:The PS4 tournament was a full house.. All two of us.. The drama taking place over the 4 days caused the major networks to cut into programming for tournament updates :)
Yeah, I really wanted to finish that one just to put some more names on the leaderboard 8) I just added MUTT's son, Buggy1424, to the PS4 Society today, and it looks like MERACE is about to hit his stride with the PS4 version. I think the interest in the PS4 version, and playing in PS4 Society's will pick up once the update is in play. If the update at least does for the consoles what it did for the PC version, people will be more willing to invest their time in this game and in the Societies.

FIFA, you've got to play today's Daily at Woodbridge... what a gorgeous course and a great test of golf. I five-starred and Favorited this one! I'm also the 'leader in the clubhouse' :wink:
Are there daily tournaments on the XB? If so, where do I find them?
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Danimal wrote:I'm seeing some pretty low scores in the official societies as well. I'm struggling to break par myself which is fine but I feel like there must be some kind of, I hate to use the word cheats but some kind of things good players know that help get those low scores. Since I fade the ball mostly, I've started putting draw on my shot setup and it is amazing how much that fixes the fade issue 9 out of 10 times. I'm interested if the Elite controller is better but I'm not going to drop $150 to play virtual golf.
All I can say for sure at this point is the Elite controller definitely helps my average about 7 or 8 shots better, per round, on the XBox One version of the game. The stock XBox One controller doesn't have as much resistance in its thumbstick movement and I tend to drift more with it because of that.

During the beta, I found that I could hit the ball straighter in the PC version with the Elite controller, but I didn't have as good a touch with it in the short game as my XBox 360 wired, and wireless Silver Edition controllers. There's like three regions of what I'd describe as "springiness" in the Elite's thumbstick movement from top to bottom. I can feel a breakover point as I'm swinging, twice during the swing... once as I'm entering the "center" position, then another as I'm leaving the center position on my way to the top. It doesn't affect me too much in full swings, but pitching, chipping, and putting don't feel as fluid.

I'm about to play the PC Society Daily with the Elite to see what may have changed with its use since the update. I'll be hard for me to put my XBox 360 Silver Edition controller down, as pleased as I am with what's it's delivering for me sensually right now!
I think my biggest issue is I can't tell the difference in my thumb movement from a straight shot to a severe hook or fade. It is hard to get better when you can't figure out what is different, in fact there have been times in the middle of a round where every shot is on and then they start to go off kilter and I swear I've done nothing different with my thumb movement.
I sense this to a lesser degree at times myself. I think there are gradients of tempo deviation that aren't always enough to reported on the feedback meter though. I've pulled shots that were reported as "perfect/perfect" with no wind, and a perfect swing path. I felt like my downswing was quick, but it wasn't quick enough to be reported as "Fast" in the feedback meter, but enough at affect the shot.
As much as I keep coming back to this game there are many areas that could use major improvement. The green beads are not reliable a lot of times. I still have no explanation on why some pitch shots stop on a dime and others roll for miles on similar slope / greens. The Flop shot is over powered to the point that if you can get in position to use it you will always land the ball with a 2-4 foot putt.
The grids aren't always reliable and I find myself looking at other indicators for slope at times. I'll look at putts from the other side of the hole when in doubt. The chip shots that stop on a dime are the ones that really infuriate me... and they can even happen out of the light rough!? I deloft my lob wedge and sand wedge to a small degree when chipping with them and that seems to take a lot of the tendency of them to "check".
Fairway bunker and rough play as noted before is absurd. I played a course yesterday that was a target golf course . I hit my driver and it rolled just about 6 inches too long through the fairway. i now had over 220 yards of rough to the next fairway. That took 3 shots with a hybrid to get there, I wanted to just quit the rounds at this point.
These moments are truly infuriating and I fully relate. I just wave the white flag and hit a sand wedge or pitching wedge out of fairway bunkers now and get the ball back on the fairway, and hopefully gain 80 to 100 yards out of it.
Maybe I'm missing it but I'd really like some other play options then stroke play, specifically match play.
The lack of match play is a major disappointment for me in this game. The fact that they are trying to market their ghost play match play, where only you know you're playing match play, (the recorded golfer you're playing against is playing stroke play and they have no idea they're playing match play against someone else), as match play is laughable. I think they're working on live match play behind the scenes, but they won't admit to it in the event they can't get it to work. You know they had it working in TGC 1, and quite well for me, I see no reason why it shouldn't at least be working as well in TGC 2 :?
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ddtrane wrote: Are there daily tournaments on the XB? If so, where do I find them?
They will be listed on the DSP Society "Events" menu, if one has been created for the given day. Vader has been posting them, as I've played in a number of them on the XBox One. He may not have listed one for today yet. If one is posted, it will show up with today's date as the start, and tomorrow's date as the finish.
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DChaps wrote:
pk500 wrote: Didn't finish, as I went to see The Who live last night. Rock and roll always prevails over video games. :)
Damn, I am jealous! How was it?
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Two hours of maximum rock and roll. Blown away.
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I haven't had a chance to play much but will get in more time, hopefully. I will join the PS4 tourneys.

One of my biggest challenges is chipping and I find myself using the flop shot too often. I want to get away from it but I just cannot get a feel around the green. I would like to practice chipping but would also like to practice a particular chip and the option of dropping the ball where you would like to chip from is difficult. Is there a way to use this function better? You are 8 thousand feet in the air and it is impossible to place the ball where you want. There has to be a zoom option, isn't there?

When hitting a long distance from a fairway bunker or rough, I club up until the percentage takes a big drop then go back down one club. This club is usually pretty safe to hit. I then don't take the club back quite 100%. It does seem hit or miss sometimes but this strategy has worked.

Lastly, long distance, downhill big breakers are impossible. If you hit it soft, it will take a right or left turn off of your putter. You have to play so much break on the putt that then you cannot control the distance; it will catch the hill and go 15 feet past the cup. While I agree somewhat with the physics, it is too dramatic in the game.
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pk500 wrote:
DChaps wrote:
pk500 wrote: Didn't finish, as I went to see The Who live last night. Rock and roll always prevails over video games. :)
Damn, I am jealous! How was it?
KILLER. I saw them in 1982 on their Farewell Tour at the Carrier Dome in Syracuse. It's the longest goodbye in rock history, at 35 years. :)

But Townshend and Daltrey play like guys who are 32 and 33, not 72 and 73. Nailed every note, Townshend still doing multiple windmill slashes at his Strat and Daltrey still swinging the mike like a lasso. They played everything on key -- nothing was even a half-step down to help Daltrey hit notes.

Two hours of maximum rock and roll. Blown away.
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ddtrane wrote: Are there daily tournaments on the XB? If so, where do I find them?
They will be listed on the DSP Society "Events" menu, if one has been created for the given day. Vader has been posting them, as I've played in a number of them on the XBox One. He may not have listed one for today yet. If one is posted, it will show up with today's date as the start, and tomorrow's date as the finish.
Since a daily has to take up 2 days and can't start or stop with another tournament in progress that leaves only time for one daily each week if a 4 day tournament is on, unless I'm missing something. I'm just going to give the 4 round tournaments 5 days to finish and then throw a single round in between tournaments.
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J_Cauthen wrote:
FifaInspected wrote:The PS4 tournament was a full house.. All two of us.. The drama taking place over the 4 days caused the major networks to cut into programming for tournament updates :)
Yeah, I really wanted to finish that one just to put some more names on the leaderboard 8) I just added MUTT's son, Buggy1424, to the PS4 Society today, and it looks like MERACE is about to hit his stride with the PS4 version. I think the interest in the PS4 version, and playing in PS4 Society's will pick up once the update is in play. If the update at least does for the consoles what it did for the PC version, people will be more willing to invest their time in this game and in the Societies.

FIFA, you've got to play today's Daily at Woodbridge... what a gorgeous course and a great test of golf. I five-starred and Favorited this one! I'm also the 'leader in the clubhouse' :wink:

Just played it. Fantastic course!
The first par 3 with the water... Think, plan, think, wind, think more. Swing...... SPLASH :) Just like real life!

Came in at +7. Good times..

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vader29 wrote:
J_Cauthen wrote: Since a daily has to take up 2 days and can't start or stop with another tournament in progress that leaves only time for one daily each week if a 4 day tournament is on, unless I'm missing something. I'm just going to give the 4 round tournaments 5 days to finish and then throw a single round in between tournaments.
I think I've figured this out. I now have Dailies set for Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday of this week, with The Open, running Thursday through Sunday, but you have to think of 4:00 EDT as being the start of the next day and 3:59 EDT as being the end of the current day. I've got a Daily running at Vallentuna Golfklubb. It shows July 17th on the Event Calendar, but will actually run until 3:59 AM EDT tomorrow. I have another tournament set to start at 4:00 AM EDT then, which will show at July 18th on the Event Calendar.

I've got the Open set to start on the 20th and run through the 24th, which will actually be 4:00 AM EDT, Monday. I had to get in three Dailies this week to bring our event total high enough to earn a "Major" distinction for a tournament in your Society's season schedule. I think it's like 10 or 15 events? Anyway, I've got the PC Society set for the Open being a major, now I need to get the PS4 Society set for the week.
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Are we playing Birkdale for the Open?
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Danimal wrote:Are we playing Birkdale for the Open?
Yes, and a splendid one at that... thanks to Mr. Yeltzman for that! :D
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I wasn't able to status the PS4 Society DSP event at Royal Birkdale as a "Major" because we haven't played enough events in this season (fell one short) to do so. I guess I missed one somewhere that I was able to get another PC Society version Daily in... sorry about that. I'm curious to see how much difference the atmosphere is going to be in an event designated as a "Major".
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Jesus. I am currently playing Woodbridge Golf Club (not Country Club). Anyone that can shoot par or better on that beast is a better man than me. Wow. Beautiful course but LOOOOOOOONG. It actually plays very fair. Just LOOOOOOONG :). +2 thru 7.
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Diablo25 wrote:Jesus. I am currently playing Woodbridge Golf Club (not Country Club). Anyone that can shoot par or better on that beast is a better man than me. Wow. Beautiful course but LOOOOOOOONG. It actually plays very fair. Just LOOOOOOONG :). +2 thru 7.
Just birdied 8 and it might be one of my proudest moments...ever :D

What a course.
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Wow. PLAY WOODBRIDGE GOLF CLUB. Very challenging but fair course. Totally impressed. Tip of the cap to the designer. Shot a 79 and worked my ass off for it!
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Damnnnnnn..... I shot a three eagle 53 in today's XBox One Daily at Jupitor Ridge and it didn't register :evil: I truly hope this crap is going to be shored up considerably by the patch.
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