MLB 2k10

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:23 pm

I'm downloading it now. I thought last years game was decent although nowhere near as good as The Show.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:18 pm

OK I just played several innings and I found both good and bad. For those that only have a 360, this years game is serviceable, better than last years. The AI is tighter, makes better decisions.

Graphically the game looks tight, not as good as MLB2K7 but real close. The players look much closer to the actual players. The audio even without commentary sounds fine.

Where I have a problem with the game is as others like DB and others have coined finger gymnastics. I absolutely suck at pitching. I've thrown more Wild Pitches than the "Wild Thing" in the movie Major League.

The animation while better still has issues with transition i.e. once the play is over the player who has the ball will stop then startup again. Looks sloppy but it's not as bad as in the past. The outfield throwing animation still looks off especially when you want the OF to lob the ball to second base. The animation you are given is the canned, one hop throw as if the OF is trying to throw the runner out at Home Plate.

Add me to the list who doesn't like the new batters camera. I know it can be changed but man it makes the pitches look slow and throws off your timing. I must admit I did get use to the Batter's RS, although I had to get away from doing the power swing because it appears more natural when hitting whereas just pushing the stick up reminds me of a check swing. I have no idea and didn't try the defensive swing, moving the RS left or right.

If VC continues developing this game, it will be tight, that's if 2K sees out it's MLB licenses. The game is going in the right direction but is nowhere close to The Show. I may still get this if the price drops pretty fast or if there's a sale. Last year I got it for the PC and this I wouldn't mind getting it for the 360.

tjung0831 · Post by **tjung0831** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:09 pm

dbdynsty25 wrote:
tjung0831 wrote: I'll probably get the show...it would be pretty stupid if I didn't since I now have a PS3. The hitting and pitching though, I already know I prefer that in 2K10.
How do you know? You don't have the Show. The show is great in it's simplicity. Turn off all of the fancy ball markers and stupid stick movements and just press a button and let the ratings and statistics take care of it. I definitely prefer the minimalist approach over finger gymnastics and radar lock missile command graphic overlays. These companies that focus on graphics sure put a lot of random crap on the screen that's unneeded.

Because I've played the show numerous times. It's personal preference...just like you prefer to hit and pitch by pressing a button...I prefer being able to use the right stick.

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:15 pm

This demo isn't "final copy" material, I don't believe. I take it as encourage ment for the final release, however. For instance, I jacked a homer in my first playthrough, and the fireworks looked more like a shot of red mist, with no sound effect. No commentary, as had already been said. I think this is a preview build demo.J

Teal · Post by **Teal** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:25 pm

And can I just say that, while I know some of you have every system known to man, the constant comparisons between 2k and a ps3 exclusive aren't very helpful. I personally have no vested interest in The Show, to the point where it'd almost be better to have a 360 only thread dedicated to impressions of the game. As a console monogomous gamer, comparisons to the Show are rather moot.

Gangrel · Post by **Gangrel** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:25 pm

JackB1 wrote:Not to nitpick or anything, but I have yet to see the AI take a strike.
A "test" I alway try on bb games is to see what the AI does when up 3-0 in the count. Unfortunately, they swing at every 3-0 strike. Hopefully this can be fixed with sliders (don't u hate that sentence). Anyone else finding the same thing?

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If you check the IE ratings, everybody has a D- in walks for some reason. The exact same thing happened last year until they fixed it with a patch.

I'm hoping since this is just the demo, that it will be fixed in the final release.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:31 pm

Teal wrote:And can I just say that, while I know some of you have every system known to man, the constant comparisons between 2k and a ps3 exclusive aren't very helpful. I personally have no vested interest in The Show, to the point where it'd almost be better to have a 360 only thread dedicated to impressions of the game. As a console monogomous gamer, comparisons to the Show are rather moot.

Well that's a ridiculous idea.

Do you really think you need a separate thread for each and every game that comes out on a specific console? Come on. And of course there are going to be comparisons...they are the same genre. And it's helpful to those of us who have both consoles. Not to mention the fact that the Ps3 usually gets the short end of the stick when it comes to multi-console games...so it's a good thing when it actually has the better game by far.

greggsand · Post by **greggsand** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:54 pm

I agree with Teal that every time someone starts talking about "The Show" & all of it's greatness, how it heals sick children, and emits a golden ray of light that would kill you if you stared at it too long, I move on to the next post. I have a PS3 and have no interest in the show (mainly because I play online 90% of the time). I also could care less how it compares to the show, but I can see how other dual console owners might find it interesting.

pigpen81 · Post by **pigpen81** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:24 am

After a couple games of the demo:

General improvement over 2K0 which I actually enjoyed.

Pitching wasn't tough for me at all, even with Basterado of the Phils.

Some animations flat out stink. Jeter making a full throw to 2nd when he is 5 feet away. Texeira doing a jump 180 throw on a bunt. Even the catcher on a dropped third strike throwing the ball across the line.....the 1B should have set up on the foul line side of first. No major leaguer would ever throw across the line like that...a big no-no.

I will definitely switch the batting cam is I like it much more zoomed in.

The Yanks CPU was throwing lots of balls with Vazquez and Joba...I could have worked some BB's if I wasn't swing happy.

Stealing 2B off of Joba was a piece of cake with his slow delivery from the stretch.

All nitpicks aside, the game feels very promising and I look forward to digging deeper upon release next week.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:54 am

Well...it's better than last year. I've definitely decided against the 360 version that's for sure. I'd rather just pick up the PC version and only pay 20 bucks. That's about right monetarily just for a different pick up and play game to have around.

The animations and fielding position are still atrocious. If I see another ball lined over my infielders head and he turns around takes two steps towards the outfielder and catches it over his shoulder, I'm going to f'n scream. Why can't the guy stand there and put his glove up? I have no idea. And the numbers and names on the backs of the jerseys are equally atrocious. Who's the art director? Yikes. The pitcher/batter interface is pretty bad too with all of the flashing blue transitions and ridiculous cursors. That blue flashing thing after every pitch is going to give someone a seizure.

At least the fielding in the outfield has been cleaned up and the throwing in general is a bit better. Those were big issues last year. So yeah, it's improved, sorta. 20 dollar PC version here I come.

Rodster · Post by **Rodster** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:22 am

DB where have you seen 2K10 listed for $20? The only etailer I know that's selling it is Amazon.com and they want $28.

Twenty is the most i'll pay for this game. Should look nice in 1680x1050 resolution.

Diablo25 · Post by **Diablo25** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:04 am

Bottom line, IMO, its still a "JV" game. Too many little things bug me. Sure, its better than last year but that ain't hard. The inevitable comparisons to The Show will always be there and The Show embarrasses 2K. Again, just my opinion.

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:21 am

After some more games, I am kinda torn on this one. Sure it's better than last year's, but we all know that's not saying much. Everything seems to be moving too fast.......throws rocket accross the field, batted balls seem like laser beams most of the time. I am actually liking the batting camera now because it seems to make hitting a little more challenging, but I am not liking the pitching view. It makes the ball feel like it's floating in.....even on fastballs.

The weird thing is, I am struggling with the pitching, which I never have in previous versions. It seems like it is very touchy with the gestures and I am getting "wild pitches" even on fastballs! The frustrating thing is I can't tell what I am doing wrong. Are you supposed to complet the gesture as fast as possible? I am doing them slow, so maybe that's my problem. Also, how do you get more speed on the pitch? That little circle that opens and closes......how is that used this year? I wish they would have included some instructions for pitching with the demo.

One more thing......is it so hard to get some new sounds for the crowd? I am soooooo tired of that same "yeah-ahhhh" I have to hear every time I hit the ball. In fact, I think all the gameplay sounds are recycled from previous years. Very lazy IMO.

Renegade · Post by **Renegade** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:29 am

The Show is getting a bit stale imo. Good game, but the pitching, compared to 2K, is a yawnfest. I find the pitching in 2K to be much more challenging and interesting. 2K puts The Show to shame in terms of pitching imo.

MizzouRah · Post by **MizzouRah** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:43 am

Pitching is definitely much harder, which I absolutely love.

The demo is on pro, so I'm not going to butcher the AI that much, although I did have a 3 inning game where the Yankees jacked two down the middle pitches over the wall.

Game is very smooth...

Can't wait to play the final product.

JackB1 · Post by **JackB1** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:49 am

ok , I figured out the pitching. You have to hold the first gesture until the expanding circle meets the static circle.....

anyway, I was just going thru the posts at OS and 2K's forums and there is an unbelievable amout of comments regarding weird animations and visual glitches. PLayers throwing in different direction than they are pointing.....running right thru the catcher...no collision detection...balls getting stuck under the of wall, while the hitter circles the bases, etc.

Sounds like we have our typical 2K "bug riddled mess" that we were fearing

So far, most of the annoyances seem visual or animation based, so if you only care about the gameplay, you may be OK. But if you like realism also, you may have a problem.

Edit: Anyone get any double's yet? Seems very tough since the grass doesn't slow down the ball and the OF's have rocket arms.

10spro · Post by **10spro** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:47 pm

The OF's do seem to have a robot arm, especially throwing to 3rd base. I did have a double and a clinching HR by A. ROD yesterday. Pitching is more challenging that 'The Show' and it took me awhile to get used to the stick control. From what I've seen, I doubt I have room and time for 2 baseball games, I'll be going back to Sony's product.

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:52 pm

So I pose the question, why was comparing Madden to NFL 2k okay as well as FIFA and WE but comparing MLB to the Show is a problem? Just wondering.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:00 pm

ScoopBrady wrote:So I pose the question, why was comparing Madden to NFL 2k okay as well as FIFA and WE but comparing MLB to the Show is a problem? Just wondering.

I suppose anyone who doesn't like reading comparisons between sport specific genres can just hang out in the Madden thread since there isn't any competition to compare it to anymore.

GTHobbes · Post by **GTHobbes** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:06 pm

ScoopBrady wrote:So I pose the question, why was comparing Madden to NFL 2k okay as well as FIFA and WE but comparing MLB to the Show is a problem? Just wondering.

For the record, I have no problem comparing different games -- that's what competition is all about.

But, I do think that some of the die-hard Madden guys got sick of hearing all of the NFL2k comparisons over the years. My guess is those same guys will get awfully defensive when people start pointing out whatever positives there are with Backbreaker as well.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:12 pm

GTHobbes wrote:But, I do think that some of the die-hard Madden guys got sick of hearing all of the NFL2k comparisons over the years. My guess is those same guys will get awfully defensive when people start pointing out whatever positives there are with Backbreaker as well.

That's the way it is with everything. The Apple fanboys don't like hearing about Android (or whatever)...anything that has a cult following (or mainstream in Apple's case) will get defensive when there is a better product around. I don't notice anyone in the Show thread being pissy about it being compared to 2k...because the Show is a better product and virtually any comparison slants to the Show (except for their horrendous online play). So that's just a fact of the world and it doesn't really pertain to video games only.

Badger_Fan · Post by **Badger_Fan** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:14 pm

ScoopBrady wrote:So I pose the question, why was comparing Madden to NFL 2k okay as well as FIFA and WE but comparing MLB to the Show is a problem? Just wondering.

I think the reason it was brought up is that for a huge chunk of people, the Show isn't an option. That wasn't ever the case with the other examples you brought up (except for maybe the Dreamcast, but I don't think Madden was on that platform). So while the Show is great (and I loved it on the PS2, those of us who only have an XBox couldn't give a s*** about that. We would love to hear feedback about 2K10 without the comparison, because for a lot of us, the comparison isn't compelling.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:31 pm

Badger_Fan wrote:
ScoopBrady wrote:So I pose the question, why was comparing Madden to NFL 2k okay as well as FIFA and WE but comparing MLB to the Show is a problem? Just wondering.
I think the reason it was brought up is that for a huge chunk of people, the Show isn't an option. That wasn't ever the case with the other examples you brought up (except for maybe the Dreamcast, but I don't think Madden was on that platform). So while the Show is great (and I loved it on the PS2, those of us who only have an XBox couldn't give a s*** about that. We would love to hear feedback about 2K10 without the comparison, because for a lot of us, the comparison isn't compelling.

Let me ask you this. I know multiple people, myself included, that purchased a PS3 a few years ago ONLY for the Show. Is mentioning the fact that the Show is a significantly better baseball game bad if it introduces people to a better product? Fine, I get it, people that only have a 360 can only play 2k...great. But by quieting the comparisons (which you'll never do btw) no one would ever know there is a better product, then when they eventually do get a PS3 or whatever, they will continue to play a subpar game. You may not know it's subpar because you have no idea about the "other" game...that's fine and all, but most people like to make informed decisions. That's really the whole point.

Badger_Fan · Post by **Badger_Fan** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:50 pm

I get that. Believe me, I love the Show. At least I did on the PS2, and I've heard wonderful things about it on the PS3. Hell, I convinced a friend that only has a PS3 to stop wasting money on the 2K series and buy the Show.

I chose to buy a 360 because of the Live interface and the fact that it was a hell of a lot cheaper. If I could get any one series on the console it would definitely be the Show. That said, I still prefer to hear feedback on 2K that isn't a comparison to the Show. It's just more helpful to those of us that only have a 360.

Anyone who has a PS3 and would pick 2K over the Show is looking for a reason to be different IMO, so we can't really help them anyway.

dbdynsty25 · Post by **dbdynsty25** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 2:59 pm

Badger_Fan wrote:Anyone who has a PS3 and would pick 2K over the Show is looking for a reason to be different IMO, so we can't really help them anyway.

Fair enough...and that's why I said, online play is the only real reason anyone would pick 2k over the Show. That's a pretty good reason for most people. I still can't believe the Show is so far behind in that regard.