Tiger Woods 09
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Beach? When new Tiger game is out and we are all waiting?macsomjrr wrote:I just picked it up for the Wii but I'm heading out to the beach for a bit and will post some impressions later on this evening after I've had a chance to play through a few games. Keep in mind this is my first Wii Tiger Woods game but I'll let you know what I think.
WTF dude? Get your priorities straight!
Come on Mac where are your civic duties to DSP? The beach can wait. 
Btw 1up.com gave TW '09 an A for both the 360 and PS3 versions.
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3169600&p=4
Btw 1up.com gave TW '09 an A for both the 360 and PS3 versions.
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3169600&p=4
some impressions from gamefaqs......... mixed reactions....
I say 5/10. Overall its good, then you get to putting, which you almost have to do on every whole unless your god at the approach. Putting simply feels horribly unrealistic and there is no judgment involved in getting the distance down. Pull back all the way and swing forward hard. If you lined it up right is goes in. You would think a 5 ft putt is a simple tap, but if you don't full swing it will not travel the necessary distance.
Luckily, Gamestop will give a full refund if its returned within a few days.
Hey guys. Before I begin I should let you know that although I have played every Tiger since 04, this is my first Wii experience, so i can't really compare.
But, I will say that is my favorite Tiger in a few years. I found the regular console versions pretty stale lately, but the fact that this one has motion controls that seem to work make this a completely fresh experience for me.
The swing isn't quite 1:1, but it's pretty close. Driving is pretty easy, as is chipping for the most part. I am finding putting a little challenging (ok, a lot challenging), but i know I will get it eventually. It just seems like the power bar is a little wonky, putts never seem to be as powerful as you think they should be. But, again, this will be something i can adapt too.
And finally, this version makes playing Tiger Woods just plain fun again!!
I'm up to 96 holes and the putting is the same on every swing difficulty level. In 08, the putter settings were set up for a putt distance of 100 ft and you had to judge how hard you hit the ball. In 09 the putter settings are set up to the exact distance the ball must travel. If your 2 ft from the whole, one would expect a soft tap to get the ball in, but you MUST do a full swing or the ball just rolls an inch. As for long distance putts, yes line it up right, swing back, and its in every time.
I'm disappointed to hear that given the whole focus on the 1:1 thing this year. I guess with the Wii we're also stuck with it since I'm not aware of any games that have had fix updates on the Wii like the 360/PS3.
That's really not true. Taking a 100% swing will sne the ball sailing past the hole on many putts. The putting works the same as it has in the next-gen versions for the last five or six years. You have an arrow, and you place it where you want to aim your putt based on elevation and break, which gives you a percentage. Check your line, and if it's on, then you have to swing with that percentage.
I have had very few putts so far that would go with an exact, 100% stroke. Usually if I'm over by even five percent, I'll either putt through my line or skip the ball over the hole. It's strange that your experience is so much different.
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^^ I think that system works when you're playing with the stick on a PS3/Xbox 360, but for Wii, the whole idea is supposed to be like you're really playing golf. And by using the arrows and having to hit percentages based on that rather than how far the ball would actually travel with your swing --- that's just taking away from the experience. As others have said, if it's going for 1:1, then a slight swing should be enough to put in a ball inches away. And a 100% swing from that distance should make it go way past the hole.
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My first impression of the Wii version is VERY negative. I'd stay far away from it. I'm not even sure it's worth a rental at this point. I've only played for an hour but here are my initial gripes:
1. Swing is noticeably behind 1:1
2. If you think putting is horrible on the console it is 10 times worse on the Wii. It seems unresponsive and even more unrealistic when you take a full "real" putting swing with your arms than on a controller. Plus, when you can take a full exaggerated swing on a chip and have the ball go a few feet then something is wrong.
3. Is there any way to change clubs besides the relatively small icons on the bottom right hand corner? If not, I am going to throw either my Wiimote or the game through the TV.
More later after I put the kids to bed...
edit: OK, I'm back. Just read Siam's quotes from Gamesfaqs and I totally agree with the last quote.
So far my biggest complaint, and I'm hoping it's something that I can figure out or the game is going back soon, is that even on All-Play the Wiimote is too sensitive to "pointing down." It will not register a swing unless the point is pointing down, which is OK for an adult, but try to tell a kid that has been pointing the tip of the remote every which way in the excellent Wii Sports that he has to point EXACTLY straight down or it won't start the swing!
1. Swing is noticeably behind 1:1
2. If you think putting is horrible on the console it is 10 times worse on the Wii. It seems unresponsive and even more unrealistic when you take a full "real" putting swing with your arms than on a controller. Plus, when you can take a full exaggerated swing on a chip and have the ball go a few feet then something is wrong.
3. Is there any way to change clubs besides the relatively small icons on the bottom right hand corner? If not, I am going to throw either my Wiimote or the game through the TV.
More later after I put the kids to bed...
edit: OK, I'm back. Just read Siam's quotes from Gamesfaqs and I totally agree with the last quote.
So far my biggest complaint, and I'm hoping it's something that I can figure out or the game is going back soon, is that even on All-Play the Wiimote is too sensitive to "pointing down." It will not register a swing unless the point is pointing down, which is OK for an adult, but try to tell a kid that has been pointing the tip of the remote every which way in the excellent Wii Sports that he has to point EXACTLY straight down or it won't start the swing!
Quick first impressions for the Wii version. I haven't played Tiger Woods since '07 on the 360 so I can't compare it to any previous wii version.
The Good...
The beginning tutorial is nice, walks you through the basic on how to use the wii remote for draws and fades, how to spin the ball in the air, and how to adjust the type of shot you're going to make (full, punch, pitch, flop...). As a wii Tiger newbie it was much appreciated.
Swings are not totally 100% 1:1 but they are close, maybe slightly closer than Wii Sports golf but not by much. Drives are probably the most accurately modeled swing type but the shorter shots just don't feel right to me.
Ball spin is adjusted in the area by holding the D-pad down in the direction you'd like the ball to spin and then waggling the wii-mote. The harder you shake the more spin you'll get. I like it.
Party mode looks fun but I've only clicked around and looked at a few of the games. Ball juggling and the driving around in the range carts trying to pick up more balls than other players could be a lot of fun. The wii is all about party gaming and this mode is perfect for that with 16 different games in all.
...the bad
The wii-mote just isn't what I thought it'd be for golf games. Golf is all about feel and swing speed and this game doesn't feel like it is translating that well enough. To swing you have to point the remote down, then hold B and do a normal golf swing. Sounds easy but sometimes the game won't register the swing properly, or it'll tell you to point the remote down when you're already doing that. Similarly I've found that hitting a fade or draw can be a bit hit and miss but I'm hoping that this is just crappy technique on my part and I'll figure it out eventually. The practice swings should've been done similarly to Wii Sports golf where you just back off of the ball a bit and take a few whacks. Instead you press the minus button and the ball disappears and you then swing normally. It's a minor gripe but it's still annoying and unrealistic.
...and the ugly
Putting. '09 uses a power meter on the left hand side of the screen that fills up as you swing back the wii-mote and then you swing forward to release it. It'd be great if it worked but it doesn't. Sometimes I'll barely move the wii-mote back and the bar will fill up all the way and other times I'll go for a big whack and it'll barely register. If you do manage to get the bar filled up to where you want then you'll find that the desired power you wanted was probably far too weak or far too strong. I'm having a tough time trying to figure out exactly how I'm supposed to putt. Very frustrating.
The Good...
The beginning tutorial is nice, walks you through the basic on how to use the wii remote for draws and fades, how to spin the ball in the air, and how to adjust the type of shot you're going to make (full, punch, pitch, flop...). As a wii Tiger newbie it was much appreciated.
Swings are not totally 100% 1:1 but they are close, maybe slightly closer than Wii Sports golf but not by much. Drives are probably the most accurately modeled swing type but the shorter shots just don't feel right to me.
Ball spin is adjusted in the area by holding the D-pad down in the direction you'd like the ball to spin and then waggling the wii-mote. The harder you shake the more spin you'll get. I like it.
Party mode looks fun but I've only clicked around and looked at a few of the games. Ball juggling and the driving around in the range carts trying to pick up more balls than other players could be a lot of fun. The wii is all about party gaming and this mode is perfect for that with 16 different games in all.
...the bad
The wii-mote just isn't what I thought it'd be for golf games. Golf is all about feel and swing speed and this game doesn't feel like it is translating that well enough. To swing you have to point the remote down, then hold B and do a normal golf swing. Sounds easy but sometimes the game won't register the swing properly, or it'll tell you to point the remote down when you're already doing that. Similarly I've found that hitting a fade or draw can be a bit hit and miss but I'm hoping that this is just crappy technique on my part and I'll figure it out eventually. The practice swings should've been done similarly to Wii Sports golf where you just back off of the ball a bit and take a few whacks. Instead you press the minus button and the ball disappears and you then swing normally. It's a minor gripe but it's still annoying and unrealistic.
...and the ugly
Putting. '09 uses a power meter on the left hand side of the screen that fills up as you swing back the wii-mote and then you swing forward to release it. It'd be great if it worked but it doesn't. Sometimes I'll barely move the wii-mote back and the bar will fill up all the way and other times I'll go for a big whack and it'll barely register. If you do manage to get the bar filled up to where you want then you'll find that the desired power you wanted was probably far too weak or far too strong. I'm having a tough time trying to figure out exactly how I'm supposed to putt. Very frustrating.
Damn, it sounds like we can see why Nintendo's releasing the Motion Plus add-on. The complaints you guys have are about the same I have with most games that require much more than waggle in the place of a button, the controller just isn't accurate enough for precise movement other than aiming the pointer.
I did see some posts at OS showing the rubber band tournament AI is gone, at least on 360/PS3. That is a much-needed change along with the new create-a-golfer system that gives you a balanced golfer instead of a terrible 200-yard drive hack.
I did see some posts at OS showing the rubber band tournament AI is gone, at least on 360/PS3. That is a much-needed change along with the new create-a-golfer system that gives you a balanced golfer instead of a terrible 200-yard drive hack.
I was hoping this would have been good on the Wii, went to cancel my order from buy.com but it's too late as it's already in the shipping process.Putting can improve with practice (essentially making sure you take a full swing each time no matter what), but still leaves much to be desired. I have the best luck holding the remote like I'm taking a piss (yes, I need two hands). I found out that you can hold in B and the direction arrow to change clubs.
The good news is that it seems challenging on the hardest setting. The bad news is that I've scored two eagles by having the ball magnetically drawn to the cup. The graphics are pretty good for a Wii game and MUCH improved over 07, which was the last Wii version I played.
This game is fun on the tee and fairway but totally breaks down in the short game.
The good news is that it seems challenging on the hardest setting. The bad news is that I've scored two eagles by having the ball magnetically drawn to the cup. The graphics are pretty good for a Wii game and MUCH improved over 07, which was the last Wii version I played.
This game is fun on the tee and fairway but totally breaks down in the short game.
Well, as a sucker for Golf games I decided to take the plunge on the 360 version even though the demo gave me the same old, same old feeling for a TW's game.
I managed to play a couple of the newer courses like Bay Hill and Wolf Creek and they look beautiful. Still you have 16 courses to get your hands on, so it'll be just a couple of weeks before EA makes some more downloadable courses but for a price. Like the demo you have the option of selecting either the analog or three click swing. So far I find it more precise to use the 3 button press and it seems that's a bit more forgiving than 08. Talking about customizing, you have infinite choices to create your player including the option to add your face to the game.
Having H. Haney to monitor your swing when you screw up is a plus this year and the addition of the club tuner as many of you have experienced in the demo is a big sell. Customizing your club here is more fun than a chore and it's very rewarding when you find your sweetspot in a particular club that you've been struggling with.
Commentary is rather boring but then again we are dealing with a Golf game. So far so good, just some minor changes in 09 make this version a bit more challenging, putting is basically the same and I'll try some online games later on.
I managed to play a couple of the newer courses like Bay Hill and Wolf Creek and they look beautiful. Still you have 16 courses to get your hands on, so it'll be just a couple of weeks before EA makes some more downloadable courses but for a price. Like the demo you have the option of selecting either the analog or three click swing. So far I find it more precise to use the 3 button press and it seems that's a bit more forgiving than 08. Talking about customizing, you have infinite choices to create your player including the option to add your face to the game.
Having H. Haney to monitor your swing when you screw up is a plus this year and the addition of the club tuner as many of you have experienced in the demo is a big sell. Customizing your club here is more fun than a chore and it's very rewarding when you find your sweetspot in a particular club that you've been struggling with.
Commentary is rather boring but then again we are dealing with a Golf game. So far so good, just some minor changes in 09 make this version a bit more challenging, putting is basically the same and I'll try some online games later on.
Couple of minor gripes for me. Fans don't seem to care to move even though a ball is coming their way. It would be so cool for the hitter to shout 'Fooooreee', but it's not in the game.
Even when you're just 2 inches away from tapping the ball into the hall, the CPU won't give you the gimme as in the past.
Shot a 63 at Sheshan.
Even when you're just 2 inches away from tapping the ball into the hall, the CPU won't give you the gimme as in the past.
Shot a 63 at Sheshan.
What level are you playing on?10spro wrote:Couple of minor gripes for me. Fans don't seem to care to move even though a ball is coming their way. It would be so cool for the hitter to shout 'Fooooreee', but it's not in the game.
Even when you're just 2 inches away from tapping the ball into the hall, the CPU won't give you the gimme as in the past.
Shot a 63 at Sheshan.
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If he is using 3-click, he is either on Easy or Balanced which are the two easier difficulty levels. 3-click is not offered in Hard or Tour Pro because it has an overswing feature that the analog stick does not, therefore creating an advantage over analog swing users. EA is working to get both swings to have the same functionality with respect to balancing the features and swing capabilties for a future version.Zlax45 wrote:What level are you playing on?10spro wrote:Couple of minor gripes for me. Fans don't seem to care to move even though a ball is coming their way. It would be so cool for the hitter to shout 'Fooooreee', but it's not in the game.
Even when you're just 2 inches away from tapping the ball into the hall, the CPU won't give you the gimme as in the past.
Shot a 63 at Sheshan.
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I didn't tinker at all with the settings, so it was on default using the 3 button method. I will adjust the options tonight to Tour Pro.Zlax45 wrote:What level are you playing on?10spro wrote:Couple of minor gripes for me. Fans don't seem to care to move even though a ball is coming their way. It would be so cool for the hitter to shout 'Fooooreee', but it's not in the game.
Even when you're just 2 inches away from tapping the ball into the hall, the CPU won't give you the gimme as in the past.
Shot a 63 at Sheshan.