The Official Console Talk Thread

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:38 pm

Spooky wrote:
PRBoom wrote:PS2 + Sony Brand Controller + 8 MB memory card to get 100 dollars credit?

They can lick my ballsack
Why? What is bad about that offer? A brand new PS2 is what...$120 now?

Whatd do you get for the trade in on an Xbox? Could you combine that with this PS2 trade in towards the PS3?

Forget it, already expired apparently

Wilk5280 · Post by **Wilk5280** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:50 pm

Hmm maybe I'm wrong, but I think I could do fairly better on Ebay.

Wilk5280 · Post by **Wilk5280** » Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:06 pm

Here's an interview with David Jaffe (God of War guy). Very interesting cat to say the least.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3156560

Wilk5280 · Post by **Wilk5280** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:01 pm

Not sure how accurate nexgenwars.com is or how much weight anyone puts into the numbers, but it's still interesting none-the-less.

right now they're showing

360 - just under 10.3 million
Wii - just over 4 million
PS3 - just over 1.1 million

We all know the 360 has a year headstart, but my God those Wii numbers are just astounding.

I've also read somewhere that the Wii's launch is the most successful in terms of numbers of units sold in videogame history. I'll have to see if I can find it again, but novelty or not Nintendo is doing something right.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 9:05 pm

PRBoom wrote:Not sure how accurate nexgenwars.com is or how much weight anyone puts into the numbers, but it's still interesting none-the-less.

right now they're showing

360 - just under 10.3 million
Wii - just over 4 million
PS3 - just over 1.1 million

We all know the 360 has a year headstart, but my God those Wii numbers are just astounding.

I've also read somewhere that the Wii's launch is the most successful in terms of numbers of units sold in videogame history. I'll have to see if I can find it again, but novelty or not Nintendo is doing something right.

The Wii is wiping the floor with the PS3 and looks like it will be overtaking the 360.
I know its early but damn that is impressive.

sportdan30 · Post by **sportdan30** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:32 pm

Was at EB Games tonight picking up an extra controller. Asked if they had any PS3's in stock. The sales guy laughed and said of course. It was as if he was saying these things just aren't selling and it's not worth it. No Wiis in stock.

RandyM · Post by **RandyM** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:03 am

As the owner of a Wii and a 360, I just don't know that it's a sure thing that Nintendo overtakes the 360.

It could happen, but if it does, it will be because of First-party games, not 3rd party games. Look at the drop-off in review scores for the Wii once you leave first party games. (Same has happened with every Nintendo platform that I can remember).

I rented Red Steel, and it heartily deserves its poor ratings, in spite of the fact that as a point and shooter, I should have LOVED it. I'll try CoD 3, but I'm not all that optimistic based on its reviews.

The online strategy still isn't there for Nintendo, and once the thrill wears off from the neat new controllers, I wonder if the things won't slow down. Right now people that don't have a Wii seem to think that having the new controllers will just change everything. I think for some types of games it will. But for other types of games it's not necessarily going to pay off.

I still spend more time on Gears of War than Zelda, in spite of the novel controllers. We'll see what happens.

Randy

RandyM · Post by **RandyM** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:51 am

PRBoom wrote:Here's an interview with David Jaffe (God of War guy). Very interesting cat to say the least.

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3156560

It was an entertaining interview to listen to. However, most of it was this guy blowing smoke for Sony (sort of as you would expect). I don't think the fact that he can drop the f-bomb several times in the interview means he's more honest. For some reason I notice people seem to think that if the interviewee curses to be more emphatic, that somehow he's being more honest and answering questions better. I just think it means he uses profanity in his spin.

At any rate, my takeaway from the whole thing was: "Sony's machine is more powerful - just wait and see". It took a long time for him to make that point, but that was my gist of how he dealt with the reality that is happening now. It was "Sony's done this before and made it work, they'll do it again and make it work."

Well, as the owner of PSP, I don't think everything Sony touches becomes gold. There aren't many great games for the PSP even though there several hundred games out. UMD movies died because Sony couldn't get it through its thick head that people don't want to pay MORE for a UMD than a DVD, and rather than adjust, they just let the thing die. And even though Nintendo's DS is primitive compared to the PSP, the DS kicks its butt at retail. Sure, some of that is price point, but I also think Sony has done very little to make the PSP a must have item. Whereas Nintendo has been all about that. So the Wii/PS3 war could be the same outcome as the DS/PSP war. The more 'primitive' machine coming in at a lower price point and offering a more intriguing story to the 'masses' and winning as a result. We're over 2 years out from the PSP and Sony still shows no signs of seeing the light with it. That makes me very pessimistic about the PS3, and it's largely because of the PSP that I have decided to watch this one from the sidelines until I see some sign that Sony "gets it".

Randy

pk500 · Post by **pk500** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 5:42 pm

For the four people at DSP without a 360 who want one, this analyst says not to expect a price cut early this year:

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?optio ... &Itemid=46

Take care,
PK

Boltman · Post by **Boltman** » Mon Jan 29, 2007 9:03 pm

Well, as the owner of PSP, I don't think everything Sony touches becomes gold. There aren't many great games for the PSP even though there several hundred games out. UMD movies died because Sony couldn't get it through its thick head that people don't want to pay MORE for a UMD than a DVD, and rather than adjust, they just let the thing die. And even though Nintendo's DS is primitive compared to the PSP, the DS kicks its butt at retail. Sure, some of that is price point, but I also think Sony has done very little to make the PSP a must have item. Whereas Nintendo has been all about that. So the Wii/PS3 war could be the same outcome as the DS/PSP war. The more 'primitive' machine coming in at a lower price point and offering a more intriguing story to the 'masses' and winning as a result.

Beta Max, meet VHS, I'm a believer

GameSeven · Post by **GameSeven** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:40 pm

Sony contemplates PS3 price drop according to this article: http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?optio ... 9&Itemid=2

Of course, no mention of timelines, so in the larger picture, pretty meaningless...

Post by **ScoopBrady** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:10 pm

GameSeven wrote:Sony contemplates PS3 price drop according to this article: http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?optio ... 9&Itemid=2

Of course, no mention of timelines, so in the larger picture, pretty meaningless...

Well hell, they had a price drop in Japan before launch. They would be smart to drop to the $399 - $499 price range right now.

wco81 · Post by **wco81** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:32 pm

I believe the 20 GB SKU in Japan is already closer to $400 than $500.

Anyways, in their earnings conference, the CFO said they are already manufacturing the Cell at 65 nanometers, which is surprising because MS isn't expected to shrink the Xenon until middle of this year.

If they've nailed the process shrinkage, it would give them some room for price reductions.

But they would gain a lot more room when they move the RSX to 65 nanometers, finish the software for backwards compatibility so they can stop using the GS and EE chip from the PS2 and improve blue-laser yields.

Jimmydeicide · Post by **Jimmydeicide** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:07 pm

Are they still making 20 gig ps3's ? Cant find one at my local stores. loads of 60 gig tho.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:22 pm

ScoopBrady wrote:
GameSeven wrote:Sony contemplates PS3 price drop according to this article: http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?optio ... 9&Itemid=2

Of course, no mention of timelines, so in the larger picture, pretty meaningless...
Well hell, they had a price drop in Japan before launch. They would be smart to drop to the $399 - $499 price range right now.

I think they will. I doubt they will take the Sega Saturn go down with the ship route.

bkrich83 · Post by **bkrich83** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:28 pm

Because I Am weakwilled and have no willpower, I just picked up a 60 GB PS3.

XXXIV · Post by **XXXIV** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:25 pm

bkrich83 wrote:Because I Am weakwilled and have no willpower, I just picked up a 60 GB PS3.

you pathetic bastard....I wouldnt worry I have a feeling many of us here will do the same thing...Ive been so close so many times just to be saved from myself at the last minute. My latest savior or killer? being the Burning Crusade.

Feanor · Post by **Feanor** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:01 am

RandyM wrote:Well, as the owner of PSP, I don't think everything Sony touches becomes gold. There aren't many great games for the PSP even though there several hundred games out. UMD movies died because Sony couldn't get it through its thick head that people don't want to pay MORE for a UMD than a DVD, and rather than adjust, they just let the thing die.

This is a point worth repeating. I have never bought a UMD movie simply because the prices were ridiculous when there are no extras at all on the disc. If Pirates of the Carribean had been $15 like it should have been, then I probably would have snapped it up. But I saw it selling for $30 and just laughed.

Boltman · Post by **Boltman** » Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:08 am

sportdan30 wrote:Was at EB Games tonight picking up an extra controller. Asked if they had any PS3's in stock. The sales guy laughed and said of course. It was as if he was saying these things just aren't selling and it's not worth it. No Wiis in stock.

No joke, the Target near my house has the same 5 PS3's just sitting there, I've seen em' over the last two weeks LOL.

But Wii's? Have yet to catch one sitting on their shelves.

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:00 pm

Anyone know if this is true?

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/02/06/xbox- ... vd-drives/

RandyM · Post by **RandyM** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 4:49 pm

bkrich83 wrote:Because I Am weakwilled and have no willpower, I just picked up a 60 GB PS3.

LOL! I love the way you put that.

Perhaps *I* should say, because I am weak willed and have no will power I have NOT stood up to my wife and BOUGHT a PS3 <G> (but seriously at this point a PS3 would be a paperweight in my house, especially now that PK has reintroduced the DSP community to PC sim racing in the 1967 era!).

Randy

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:38 pm

Hey all if you're having trouble finding money to buy a PS3, fear not. We can have them on Sony if you have a digital camera.

Can't wait to watch the SDF defend this one.

http://feeds.joystiq.com/~r/weblogsinc/ ... /89034281/

Danimal · Post by **Danimal** » Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:19 pm

This should clue you in if you have the new quiet DVD drive in the 360.

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=585847

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Darkbandit · Post by **Darkbandit** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:15 am

A thought that I had last night while browsing ebay. How many people would consider buying one either a PS3 or 360 from ebay? I see where the some of the 60gb versions are going from 299-599 and was thinking about picking one up. My only concern would be that I buy it, and it get shipped to me, I have a box of bricks, or that I would buy it and not get a system at all.

RandyM · Post by **RandyM** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 2:20 pm

Wrong topic? Hope not.

Has anyone else tried out shooters for the Wii and have any opinions on the experience?

I rented Red Steel and more or less hated it. Then I rented Call of Duty and liked it, but it definitely wasn't quite as 'natural' as I imagined it would be.

So given a choice between Call of Duty 3 (or <fill in shooter here>) on the Wii versus my 360....which way do you lean?

Randy