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Carson Wentz.
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That Bradford trade was great for both teams. Who saw that coming?
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Rodster wrote:I bet if the Rams could have a do over, they'd take Carson Wentz. Which goes to show the NFL Draft is such a crap shoot. Both Wentz and Goff where projected to be bust and so far Wentz is proving all the Draft experts wrong.
They were taking Goff the whole time.. what better ticket selling plan is there considering Goff played at Cal and is from California?
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fletcher21 wrote:That Bradford trade was great for both teams. Who saw that coming?
In the right offense I really think Bradford is a decent QB. He throws a great ball. The offense Chip Kelly ran last year was the worst for Bradford. The #1 issue with Bradford is he must stay healthy. He's built like a bad punter so the question isnt will it happen its when.
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He just doesn't look right in a uniform. Almost like a kid borrowing his dad's Jersey that is too big on him.
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Rodster wrote:I bet if the Rams could have a do over, they'd take Carson Wentz. Which goes to show the NFL Draft is such a crap shoot. Both Wentz and Goff where projected to be bust and so far Wentz is proving all the Draft experts wrong.
The Bears had three chances to draft the QB who beat them last night in the 4th round. I'm honestly not sure the Bears could beat the Browns at this point. That is a team that is going through the motions. But hey are 7th overall pick sure can get blocked all over the place really well.

Still like Howard, there is something there and he will get his chance to carry the load since Langsuck is hurt.
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When I saw R. Wilson's knee bent backwards yesterday I expected the worst. He's been limping already since game one courtesy of the OL and when an MRI was ordered right after the game, I knew there was great concern in the organization and fans.

The results showed that he's got an MCL sprain. If I was Carroll, I would not play him against the Jets next week, not with their strong DL against the Seahawks OL. Just play rookie T. Boykin who's pretty mobile himself in my opinion and let Wilson rest a couple of weeks with a bye coming up after the Jets game.
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Hard to pat myself on the back after 1 game and because ti was Detroit but Langford's injury could be the best thing to happen to the Bears because they obviously couldn't see Howard had more upside then Langford.

Hope he keeps getting the chances.
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If someone told me after Week 2 that the Bills would be 2-2 after beating New England, I would have laughed in their face. Now I'm stoked!

I'm still looking at another season of mediocrity, but any win over the Patriots on the same weekend when the Dolphins and Jets also lost can carry me for an entire autumn. :)
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pk500 wrote:If someone told me after Week 2 that the Bills would be 2-2 after beating New England, I would have laughed in their face. Now I'm stoked!

I'm still looking at another season of mediocrity, but any win over the Patriots on the same weekend when the Dolphins and Jets also lost can carry me for an entire autumn. :)
Luckily for you, you'll probably get a few more of those this season, so you're gonna be comfy all winter long!
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pk500 wrote:If someone told me after Week 2 that the Bills would be 2-2 after beating New England, I would have laughed in their face. Now I'm stoked!

I'm still looking at another season of mediocrity, but any win over the Patriots on the same weekend when the Dolphins and Jets also lost can carry me for an entire autumn. :)
Luckily for you, you'll probably get a few more of those this season, so you're gonna be comfy all winter long!
I doubt there will be many more weekends with a Bills' win and losses by the Pats, Jets and Miami. Brady is ready to produce one of the ultimate "f*ck you" seasons in NFL history.
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pk500 wrote:
dbdynsty25 wrote:
pk500 wrote:If someone told me after Week 2 that the Bills would be 2-2 after beating New England, I would have laughed in their face. Now I'm stoked!

I'm still looking at another season of mediocrity, but any win over the Patriots on the same weekend when the Dolphins and Jets also lost can carry me for an entire autumn. :)
Luckily for you, you'll probably get a few more of those this season, so you're gonna be comfy all winter long!
I doubt there will be many more weekends with a Bills' win and losses by the Pats, Jets and Miami. Brady is ready to produce one of the ultimate "f*ck you" seasons in NFL history.
I'm with Max Kellerman. He says Tom Brady is about start a sharp decline..ala Peyton Manning.
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Diablo25 wrote:
pk500 wrote:
I doubt there will be many more weekends with a Bills' win and losses by the Pats, Jets and Miami. Brady is ready to produce one of the ultimate "f*ck you" seasons in NFL history.
I'm with Max Kellerman. He says Tom Brady is about start a sharp decline..ala Peyton Manning.
Lets just hope to God that Brady is not in every Papa Johns, Nationwide, or DirecTV ad playing seemingly on an endless loop.....I want to puke when I hear his voice.....
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Diablo25 wrote:I'm with Max Kellerman. He says Tom Brady is about start a sharp decline..ala Peyton Manning.
Could not disagree more. Manning's rapid descent was due to injury. Brady is healthy. There's no reason he will decline. He's playing as well as ever. Plus he gets six games per season against a mediocre division, something Manning didn't enjoy in Denver.

It's sad ESPN has thrust Max into the Village Idiot role previously occupied by Bayless. Max is a sharp cat. But he's very wrong on this one.
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Halfway to Scott's 6-games-max win total for the Raiders! Sean Smith went from burnt toast to one of the top corners in the league per PFF, and the eye test. Carr certainly regressed...only his 7th game-winning drive in the 4th quarter since the start of last season (tops in the NFL).

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I kid, I kid. But they're doing what I thought/hoped they'd do. They are starting out strong enough to win some games, but the defense definitely has some problems I didn't foresee (Smith being one of them sometimes). Amerson is playing like a man possessed, and once they put Karl Joseph and Cory James into the lineup, the defense got more productive. The offense still calls it way too safe for most of the game, but once they take the cuffs off of Carr and let him operate in a no-huddle to win a game, the offense is surgically efficient. It's not even an aberration anymore, it's game after game after game, he scores late in the game to take the lead, and either the defense holds (Saints, Titans, Ravens), or it folds (Falcons).

One year ago I wasn't sold on Carr after his rookie campaign. He didn't throw deep, didn't throw outside the numbers enough for me. Lots of checkdowns.

Last season I saw a massive leap forward, and then Amari got hurt and his offensive line was The Walking Dead.

This year, his offensive line is still rotating tackles and positions (they've played something like 9 offensive linemen already, and they were down to their 4th right tackle in Baltimore, a 7th round rookie starting)...and what? 2 sacks all year, one of which was running out of bounds behind the line. No pressures, no hits, no sacks in Baltimore against Dumerville and Suggs. He's thrown 9 TDs to 1 INT (which was on Crabtree's hands, but bounced up into the air for the INT).

Kid is ice-cold, and I'm a firm believer at this point. I still feel bad that Latavius Murray is obviously not as effective as DeAndre Washington or Jalen Richard. He runs right into a blocker instead of making somebody miss, so he keeps getting 7, 8, or 10 carries per game. I like Latavius, but the offense is in another gear with the 5'8" mighty mites in there. And what can be said about Crabtree?

Honestly, this is the best Raiders team I've seen in more than a decade, although the competition isn't exactly tough there. I still think they'll finish the first half strong, and come down to Earth in the second half when the schedule gets tougher. I still think they'll compete for the division title and possibly a wildcard, but they're a year away from really challenging the Denvers and Pittsburghs and New Englands of the AFC.
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I can certainly admit when I'm wrong, and so far, I'm wrong. ;)

Carr looks really good so far. Winning on the road, especially at a very good Baltimore teams house was really f'n impressive.
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I really needed Sean Smith to continue playing like s***. It would have made me feel better about losing him. I have no idea why any team allows good CBs to get away. In a league that runs three and four wide so much, you can't have too many CBs, and they are a lot more valuable than any other defensive position.

And I'm a strong proponent of focusing on the OL and DL, but a good CB can make an average DL great. Marcus meters is great, but he's still young and get burned. He needs the vet on the other side of the field to keep teams honest.

The Chiefs lose in SD if Keenan Allen doesn't get hurt, and Antonio Brown and company embarrassed the Chiefs secondary. They are in trouble, and just paying Sean Smith would have helped a lot.
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Smith seems to have problems with quick WRs....and Julio Jones gives anybody problems. But he held up against him pretty well for a while.

But week 3, he was the #2 rated CB in that week's action per PFF grades. Of course, #1 was David Amerson :wink:

They'll get their sh*t figured out, because he's been starting to make far more plays than he's giving up. That long-ball pass breakup down the sideline this past week was beautiful, and the interception-that's-not-an-interception on the 2 point conversion was money.

Once Mario Edwards comes back, the defense will change. That guy is a run-stopping monster, and it's not coincidence that as soon as he came into the lineup last year, Mack went nuts. Right now teams are double and triple teaming Mack because they can. Edwards is an under the radar beast, and when he gets back (and if Aldon Smith is eligible to play again), I think this defense really hits its stride in the second half of the season.

The Chiefs better figure themselves out quick, though. It wasn't even Brown doing tons of damage on Sunday night---DHB, Markus Wheaton...all sorts of dudes were torching them. And what Pitt did, the Raiders are capable of doing in 2 weeks, so if they don't sort that out quickly, their wheels could come off in a hurry.
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I asked this last year so let me ask again. Who the f*** does Chip Kelly have pictures of? The self proclaimed genius has learned nothing from his first failed stop in the NFL. I saw a story today how the 49ers are discussing a QB change, your offense is not the problem Chip it is your system. If not for the shutout pitched against the Lambs in week one your scoring against average would be atrocious.

You can't run a college offense in the NFL and hope to outscored your opponents every week. 49er fans got what they deserved with this hire.
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Diablo25 wrote: I'm with Max Kellerman. He says Tom Brady is about start a sharp decline..ala Peyton Manning.
Brett Favre has a Tom Brady prediction that should scare the NFL With the Tom Brady revenge tour set to start on Sunday.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/brett ... e-the-nfl/
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He's on my fantasy team... so I hope he goes off!
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Granted 3 0f 4 DLineman are out but cmon Fisher you loser, get your guys up for a crap team for once in the 21st century!

Horrible and unprepared.

This guy has been stealing for over a decade.
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Cowboys offense is scary efficient. Romo sit a while.
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XXXIV wrote:Cowboys offense is scary efficient. Romo sit a while.
Room should retire. Seriously.
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Diablo25 wrote:Carson Wentz.
3-0
Fair is fair. Carson Wentz 3-1. I'm still very pleased with the team's performance. Rookie coach and rookie QB performing well above high expectations. 3-1...I am cool with that.

PS. On Mathews' fumble Kelce's leg was clearly touching the ball while he was out of bounds. Missed by the replay officials. Probably cost the Eagles the game.
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